Are you a fan of Josh Allen?

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

To sum it all up.

 

“That’s my QB and I understand why he’s my QB and why Rosen isn’t” is more like it.  

[HappyDays]

21 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

If we drafted Wilson seventh overall I'd have the same doubts so I'm having right now about Allen. Third-round he's a steal, 7th overall at that time don't know

 

You realize this is a knock against you, right?

[Stank_Nasty]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

You realize this is a knock against you, right?

Not only that. But the comparison is just stupid. The knock on Wilson was size. If he had been 4 inches taller he would have been universally regarded as a top ten guy. What made him slip to the 3rd isn’t even close to the same issues as to why Allen had the potential to slip. 

[Green Lightning]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

He hasn’t shown you a thing?  You clearly mean he hasn’t shown you that he can complete passes at a 60% clip while running for his life with bum WRs.  He’s shown that he has a generational arm, great mobility and can move the chains with his legs, the ability to throw on the run and make throws that no other QB can make.  If he hasn’t shown you that, then your just hating.  

 

He needs work. No doubt about it.  Darnold needs work. Mayfield needs work. Rosen needs mobility and an unscrambled brain.

 

now it’s up to our brain trust to develop him.

By saying he hasn’t shown you anything is being a Debbie downer.  He’s shown a lot.  he’s also shown a lot of bad.  No question.  Problem is, you only focus on the bad.  Your choice.  Have fun

Exactly how I felt.  But I didn’t sit there silent. 

 

 

So glad you're delighted with the pick. Many of us are not. Our judgments are as valid as yours. Now let's just hope he works out. That's my hope. Until then, I'm not going to do a 180 and dismiss what I've seen from him in the past. If that's negative to you, so be it. Go bills.

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

You realize this is a knock against you, right?

No more than it is for the Bills and 30 other teams that passed on him for almost 3 rounds. For every Wilson there's 10 flops. All I'm saying is when you pick number 7, I'd rather pick a guy who's got a track record that shows he can do it at the next level. We're going to see.

[HappyDays]

8 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

I'd rather pick a guy who's got a track record that shows he can do it at the next level

 

This describes exactly 0 QBs in draft history.

[Klaista2k]

Wow just watched the 2016 game vs Bosie State and Allen played much better.

 

After watching this game I'm more optimistic about the pick. 

Edited May 6, 2018 by Klaista2k

[Green Lightning]

11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

This describes exactly 0 QBs in draft history.

Gosh you're right, there's no way of ranking any quarterback coming out of college. Nobody like Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Throw a dart at the board. All college QBs have flaws. But I'll take a guy who has exceptional completion rate, I demonstrated ability as a pocket passer, reading defenses, and overall success at a major college program. That would be how I would do it, you wouldn't make the judgement differently apparently. That's fine.

[Green Lightning]

7 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Dang. 91% approval rating??  Nice. You probably can't even get that on Patsfans.com message board for Tom Brady.

 

I wasn't a big fan leading up to the draft or even in the moment of the draft. But glad to see we have pretty much all come around to him and will support him.

Of course we support him he's a Bill. It doesn't it mean we still have to like the pick or  make believe that are observations pre_draft are not valid, or have confidence it's going to work out. But we support him and hope he's the real deal.

[BarleyNY]

Didn’t want the Bills to pick him, but he’s our QB so I’m rooting for him.  I’m not sure who wouldn’t be rooting for him whether or not they liked the pick. 

[NewEra]

54 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Didn’t want the Bills to pick him, but he’s our QB so I’m rooting for him.  I’m not sure who wouldn’t be rooting for him whether or not they liked the pick. 

40 people (and counting) are still pissed.

[brianb386]

I wasn't a fan before the draft, but I am now.

[stinky finger]

1 hour ago, Green Lightning said:

Gosh you're right, there's no way of ranking any quarterback coming out of college. Nobody like Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Throw a dart at the board. All college QBs have flaws. But I'll take a guy who has exceptional completion rate, I demonstrated ability as a pocket passer, reading defenses, and overall success at a major college program. That would be how I would do it, you wouldn't make the judgement differently apparently. That's fine.

 

Translation: You're not projecting.

 

You do realize those "exceptional" completion rates aren't automatically transferable, right?

[Sky Diver]

48 minutes ago, NewEra said:

40 people (and counting) are still pissed.

 

I think it’s way more than that.

[NewEra]

48 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

I think it’s way more than that.

Poll related, sorry

[Sky Diver]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Poll related, sorry

I think the pro-Rosen, anti-Allen contingent is underrepresented in the poll.

[Green Lightning]

1 hour ago, inaugural balls said:

 

Translation: You're not projecting.

 

You do realize those "exceptional" completion rates aren't automatically transferable, right?

True, but they are a  better indicator of sucess than a crappy college career completion rate. 

[GOATMoorman]

Am I a fan? Of course, I'll support him as long as he plays for my team. Am I still unhappy with the pick and wish we ended up with Rosen? You bet.

 

Prove me wrong Josh.

[stinky finger]

1 hour ago, Sky Diver said:

I think the pro-Rosen, anti-Allen contingent is underrepresented in the poll.

 

I believe you're right.

[Wayne Arnold]

1 hour ago, Green Lightning said:

True, but they are a  better indicator of sucess than a crappy college career completion rate. 

 

Nope.

[SJDK]

On 5/5/2018 at 7:42 AM, klos63 said:

Look at Jim Kelly's stats in Miami

 

Yup, it can be turned around. Kelly 56% (completion%) in college. 63% as a pro

[Green Lightning]

9 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Nope.

Yep

[BarleyNY]

14 hours ago, NewEra said:

40 people (and counting) are still pissed.

 

I’m sure a few are. Some might’ve misread/misunderstood the poll though. I did at first then changed my vote when I caught my mistake. Kind of a dumb poll as written when you think about it. What’s the point?  Who’s still pouting?

[Wayne Arnold]

14 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I’m sure a few are. Some might’ve misread/misunderstood the poll though. I did at first then changed my vote when I caught my mistake. Kind of a dumb poll as written when you think about it. What’s the point?  Who’s still pouting?

 

Lots of people. At least 10% of this forum, based on the poll.

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I’m sure a few are. Some might’ve misread/misunderstood the poll though. I did at first then changed my vote when I caught my mistake. Kind of a dumb poll as written when you think about it. What’s the point?  Who’s still pouting?

Dumb poll? Maybe so, but I got to see what I was looking for to an extent.  How people are feeling about him “right now”.  The week after the draft it was toxic with hate, crying and whining.  The hate, crying and whining were coming for the people that felt exactly how I did after allen was picked. PISSED.  Yet I wasn’t crying whining and moaning.  I looked into why allen was picked over the guy I had as the #1 QB in the draft.  Then I started to get it.  Rosen opening his mouth and looking so bitter and childish made it easier as well.  The poll was basically a toxicity poll.  Since the first week, we’re seeing less and less crying and more people understanding the pick and why it was made.  Sure, the jury is still out and we won’t know what we have until the bullets start flying.  Adding a “wait and see” to the poll would assuredly end in a majority for that option.  This way, I was able to see how many are still possibly toxic.  

 

Makes sense to me but I understand why others wouldn’t understand it

[BarleyNY]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Dumb poll? Maybe so, but I got to see what I was looking for to an extent.  How people are feeling about him “right now”.  The week after the draft it was toxic with hate, crying and whining.  The hate, crying and whining were coming for the people that felt exactly how I did after allen was picked. PISSED.  Yet I wasn’t crying whining and moaning.  I looked into why allen was picked over the guy I had as the #1 QB in the draft.  Then I started to get it.  Rosen opening his mouth and looking so bitter and childish made it easier as well.  The poll was basically a toxicity poll.  Since the first week, we’re seeing less and less crying and more people understanding the pick and why it was made.  Sure, the jury is still out and we won’t know what we have until the bullets start flying.  Adding a “wait and see” to the poll would assuredly end in a majority for that option.  This way, I was able to see how many are still possibly toxic.  

 

Makes sense to me but I understand why others wouldn’t understand it

 

I don’t think you really got what you were looking for though.  You were effectively asking what fans hate the Allen pick so much that they’ll root against him and the Bills.  Anyone want to cop to that? The small number of dissenting votes can be accounted for by:

- trolls

- legit fans of other teams on this site yanking our chain and

- people who misunderstood the question 

 

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I don’t think you really got what you were looking for though.  You were effectively asking what fans hate the Allen pick so much that they’ll root against him and the Bills.  Anyone want to cop to that? The small number of dissenting votes can be accounted for by:

- trolls

- legit fans of other teams on this site yanking our chain and

- people who misunderstood the question 

 

I was looking to see how many were still so pissed off they would go on record in saying so.  Those are the people that would most likely continue to be toxic.  Not all, but some. If the poll showed a 60-40 then I’d frequent the site a bit less until it subsided, just as I did the week after the draft.  During that week, I would be annoyed rather than excited each time I visited the board.  

 

I was very happy with the draft as we landed one of the top 4 QBs (and a qb of our choice as opposed to whichever QB fell to us).  Drafting Edmunds and Phillips were the icing on the cake. I think teller is a capable starter and that Taron and Neal could be great fits.  I was stoked. Yet, coming here, I’d be annoyed with the crying and whining “but they didn’t draft the guy I wanted! ?”.  I’m pleased with the results and the comments made about our new QB and I’ll check the board every chance I get.  

 

Sorry if I couldn’t properly communicate why the poll was posted as it was.  

[ddaryl]

 

 

I'm a fan of the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen just happens to be a QB on the Bills roster, therefore I am a fan of Josh Allen.

[That_Guy]

i mean, he's a Bill, so I'll support him.  But am I a "fan" of his?  Not yet.

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I was looking to see how many were still so pissed off they would go on record in saying so.  Those are the people that would most likely continue to be toxic.  Not all, but some. If the poll showed a 60-40 then I’d frequent the site a bit less until it subsided, just as I did the week after the draft.  During that week, I would be annoyed rather than excited each time I visited the board.  

 

I was very happy with the draft as we landed one of the top 4 QBs (and a qb of our choice as opposed to whichever QB fell to us).  Drafting Edmunds and Phillips were the icing on the cake. I think teller is a capable starter and that Taron and Neal could be great fits.  I was stoked. Yet, coming here, I’d be annoyed with the crying and whining “but they didn’t draft the guy I wanted! ?”.  I’m pleased with the results and the comments made about our new QB and I’ll check the board every chance I get.  

 

Sorry if I couldn’t properly communicate why the poll was posted as it was.  

 

It probably doesnt help when people like me are rushing to check the site here and there around work. Sorry about the “dumb” comment about the poll. That was not called for.  My bad.  FWIW I will be rooting for Allen as long as he’s in a Bills uniform. 

[Soda Popinski]

1 hour ago, That_Guy said:

i mean, he's a Bill, so I'll support him.  But am I a "fan" of his?  Not yet.

At least you're open to letting him earn it.  Some have already decided they want him to fail. 

[HT02]

I'm obviously cheering for him to become a superstar but I'm entirely confident that he will.

[BoccesOnTransit]

Just bought my Allen #17 jersey from nfl.com!

[Marv's Neighbor]

For now, we are ALL fans.  Just hope we're still there a year from now.

[Pirate Angel]

I did not like the pick I still dont understand it The last 3 Qbs weve taken in the 1st round werent that good in college. Between Petermans trick shots and Allens combine this regime seems to like qbs who look great in shorts. The terrible decision to start Peterman agains one of the top pass defenses in the league while the entire squad has been playing like crap for weeks isn't establishing confidence that this coaching staff can develop a qb.  That being said, I hope Josh proves me wrong he seems like a good kid and would be fun to route for. 

[Bill_with_it]

Hope the kid turns into a star.

[Chuck Wagon]

I'm a fan of Josh Allen (now)

 

I am not a fan of the selection of him over Josh Rosen

[C.Biscuit97]

10 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:

Hope the kid turns into a star.

I mean who as a Bills fan doesn’t want that to happen?

 

its also ok to be dubious of the pick and be worried.  Still hoping for the best though.

[CLTbills]

Did I want Rosen more than Allen? Yes. Does that mean I'm not an Allen fan? Absolutely not. He's our quarterback, therefore I am a fan of his until he's not

[Elite Poster]

Thought he was the worst choice. Now he's our worst choice and I hope he's the best QB of all time. 

[TSNBDSC]

No.