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Foxx Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: i am my BILLboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) For those who missed the Lorax Kickoff Fix Proposal ... it makes a lot of sense: - Why are kickoffs so much more dangerous than punts? Lorax says it's because defenses line up fairly normally on punts. On kickoffs, they line up 20+ yards deep, plus the kicking team gets a running start. The upshot: you have kicking team guys coming at you with tremendous force (remember: Force = Mass x Velocity; these are big guys running really fast with head starts, colliding with return team members well downfield) - So why not make kickoffs more like punts? This doesn't mean eliminating kickoffs; it means reducing that F=MV thing by making teams line up in a more traditional alignment. I still think the kickoff is on it's way out, but as a partial fix, I like the Lorax Plan a lot ... EDIT: By the way, Lorax is a good interview. He pretty much gave Josh Allen a pass on the whole racist tweet thing, stating what many of us have said: thank God there was no social media when I was 16. The whole thing was on what was once called Mike & Mike. Edited May 2, 2018 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob's House Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Are these high level meetings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 No More Running Starts? Kickoffs Set for Makeover NEW YORK -- The kickoff isn't going away for the 2018 NFL season, but it will look different. An unprecedented collaboration of owners, head coaches, position coaches, medical people and an active player and a union official took a significant step toward preserving one of the game's more recognizable yet dangerous plays Wednesday morning at league headquarters by finding common ground on a proposed rules change to make the play safer. The final draft will be completed by the end of the week and presented to clubs for review on Monday. The owners will then vote on it later this month at their Spring League Meeting in Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 Proposal's goal: Make kickoffs more like punts The proposed changes will be written into a formal document by next week and presented to owners for approval during their May 21-23 meetings in Atlanta. They include: * Coverage teams would lose the 5-yard head start they previously had; * Five players would need to be aligned on each side of the kicker; * All wedge blocks, including two-man double teams, would be eliminated; * Eight of the 11 return team members would be lined up within 15 yards of the restraining line, and blocking would be prohibited within those 15 yards; * There would be no pre-kick motion; * Onside kick rules would remain largely unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/05-03-steve-tasker-howard-and-jeremymp3 TASKER SEES KICKOFF CHANGES GETTING APPROVED FOR 2018 Bills Wall of Famer Steve Tasker left the meetings in New York at the NFL offices encouraged that the kickoff isn't going away, but rather tweaked to reduce injuries on the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/2018-Playing-Rules-Proposals---NFL-Spring-Meeting.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Troy Vincent being involved with player safety is ironic. Wonder what his take on breaking teammates legs in practice is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Are kickoffs really more prone to injury than other plays? I can’t say that I’ve noticed that. If they get rid of kickoffs that’ll be one less thing for second string players to do, and will move the NFL one step closer to becoming the virtually unwatchable NBA on turf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Are kickoffs really more prone to injury than other plays? I can’t say that I’ve noticed that. If they get rid of kickoffs that’ll be one less thing for second string players to do, and will move the NFL one step closer to becoming the virtually unwatchable NBA on turf! By far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Owners approve changes to kickoff play for 2018 NFL owners voted Tuesday to adopt a revamped kickoff play for the 2018 season. The changes will make kickoffs more like punts and limit full-speed collisions. The adjustments were made in conjunction with special teams coaches and members of the league's Competition Committee during a player safety summit at the league's headquarters in New York earlier this month. On Tuesday, owners also expanded reviewable plays to include disqualification of players. Some key takeaways: 1. Players on the kicking team cannot line up more than one yard from the point of the kickoff. The previous rule allowed players to line up five yards from the restraining line (typically 35-yard line), allowing them to have more of a running start before the kick. 2. The wedge block has been eliminated. Only players who line up in the setup zone (between their own 40 and opponents' 45-yard line) can put together double-team blocks. 3. Until the ball is touched or hits the ground, no player on the receiving team may cross the restraining line (typically its 45) or initiate a block. This forces blockers on the receiving team to run back and block, which greatly decreases the chance of an "attack" block that can result in a high-speed collision. 4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NickelCity Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Oh boy. This is going to be a bear for officials and players, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback. Huh? Isn't it still a live ball? What if a squibb kick bounces into the end-zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Dont know if I like the touchback part. No returns out of the endzone allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobbyC81 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Captain_Quint said: Dont know if I like the touchback part. No returns out of the endzone allowed? Only if the ball hits the ground. This could be called “The Bills Rule” for their failure to cover a kickoff in the end zone that the Jets recovered for a touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback. Mike Gillislee approves this rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Thank Gosh they didn’t show any Pats*** allegedly committing a foul in one of those videos. It would have immediately called into question the veracity of the NFL and their new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 As long as guys are still allowed to run behind their pads and lower their shoulders to make hits i'm ok. Yes the head comes down when the pads come down but if the runner or tackler is not initiating contact with the head, there should not be a penalty. The lowering of the head is still a gigantic issue at the most basic level of football. peewees and pop warner, I still see 10yard apart straight up hits on instagram being celebrated, it's a stupid drill and it should not be encouraged. Same with coaches yelling that players need to get their head across the body when making a tackle. Just make the tackle don't worry about head placement, take the head out of the game. i coached peewees, and on angle tackles, we concentrated on getting a players belly button on the runner, forget the head, get them to tackle with the HIPS, and shoulder pads. head in front, head behind no matter hit and wrap up and drive through. But it's still being taught incorrectly from the get go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jasovon Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 More returns is good for the game so as long as there are less injuries i can see this actually being better overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 So 5 x 5 on kickoffs, what about onside kicks? Same rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: So 5 x 5 on kickoffs, what about onside kicks? Same rule? yea whats the deal with onside kicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBill Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I think these changes will retain the "feel" of a kickoff - and reduce injuries (which is their goal). What I am more curious about is how this will affect an onside kick attempt - given the fact the receiving team now has to wait until after the ball gets to the 45 to initiate any contact - it really seems like an onside could be "more" effective. I wonder if they tried this out at all - or consulted with ST coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fadingpain Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I have still seen no meaningful data linking kickoff plays specifically to CTE or even head trauma in general. The NFL appears to be intent on creating a track record of action so as to create the illusion that they are taking preventative measures to help prevent head trauma. Modifying kickoffs is not going to impact overall cases of CTE IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing K/Os go away simply b/c they are used as a scam nowadays to pack in more commercials. Someone scores? Give the ball to the other team on yard line X. And keep the game moving! K/Os are rarely exciting, and they almost always give rise to a penalty anyway. Preserve the ability to do an onside kick if scoring team wants to. With the caveat that the kicking team has to actually do the onside kick if they line up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I think the no running start by the kick team will encourage more returns. It will take the coverage unite more time to get down field. May be a rule that backfires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 5/22/2018 at 4:11 PM, SoCal Deek said: Are kickoffs really more prone to injury than other plays? I can’t say that I’ve noticed that. If they get rid of kickoffs that’ll be one less thing for second string players to do, and will move the NFL one step closer to becoming the virtually unwatchable NBA on turf! easily it was a great method of taking out someone on the other team by hitting him at full speed, especially the smallest person on the field if you could line him up and truck him while he wasn't quite paying attention to your approach, good night Sir........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I agree with the OP, but force is mass times acceleration, not velocity. M x V = Momentum On May 23, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Soda Popinski said: So 5 x 5 on kickoffs, what about onside kicks? Same rule? You'd be getting TD returns like crazy! Think about all that open field! Edited June 5, 2018 by GreggTX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) On 5/1/2018 at 6:59 PM, The Frankish Reich said: EDIT: By the way, Lorax is a good interview. He pretty much gave Josh Allen a pass on the whole racist tweet thing, stating what many of us have said: thank God there was no social media when I was 16. The whole thing was on what was once called Mike & Mike. He should have just said those things behind the hand ball courts with his buds when they snuck out to smoke a cigarette as opposed to memorializing it. Twitter is dumb IMHO. Edited June 5, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 So I heard on the radio that a guy in Toronto had no history of concussions but had cte. Wonder if that will change what we think the cause is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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