New Helmet Rule & Changes to Kickoffs Adopted

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[Foxx]

30 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

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[The Frankish Reich]

For those who missed the Lorax Kickoff Fix Proposal ... it makes a lot of sense:

- Why are kickoffs so much more dangerous than punts? Lorax says it's because defenses line up fairly normally on punts. On kickoffs, they line up 20+ yards deep, plus the kicking team gets a running start. The upshot: you have kicking team guys coming at you with tremendous force (remember: Force = Mass x Velocity; these are big guys running really fast with head starts, colliding with return team members well downfield)

- So why not make kickoffs more like punts? This doesn't mean eliminating kickoffs; it means reducing that F=MV thing by making teams line up in a more traditional alignment.

 

I still think the kickoff is on it's way out, but as a partial fix, I like the Lorax Plan a lot ...

 

EDIT: By the way, Lorax is a good interview. He pretty much gave Josh Allen a pass on the whole racist tweet thing, stating what many of us have said: thank God there was no social media when I was 16. The whole thing was on what was once called Mike & Mike.

Edited May 2, 2018 by The Frankish Reich

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Edited May 2, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

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[Rob's House]

Are these high level meetings?

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No More Running Starts? Kickoffs Set for Makeover

NEW YORK -- The kickoff isn't going away for the 2018 NFL season, but it will look different.

 

An unprecedented collaboration of owners, head coaches, position coaches, medical people and an active player and a union official took a significant step toward preserving one of the game's more recognizable yet dangerous plays Wednesday morning at league headquarters by finding common ground on a proposed rules change to make the play safer.

 

The final draft will be completed by the end of the week and presented to clubs for review on Monday. The owners will then vote on it later this month at their Spring League Meeting in Atlanta.

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Proposal's goal: Make kickoffs more like punts

The proposed changes will be written into a formal document by next week and presented to owners for approval during their May 21-23 meetings in Atlanta. They include:

 

* Coverage teams would lose the 5-yard head start they previously had;

* Five players would need to be aligned on each side of the kicker;

* All wedge blocks, including two-man double teams, would be eliminated;

* Eight of the 11 return team members would be lined up within 15 yards of the restraining line, and blocking would be prohibited within those 15 yards;

* There would be no pre-kick motion;

* Onside kick rules would remain largely unchanged.

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http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/05-03-steve-tasker-howard-and-jeremymp3

 

TASKER SEES KICKOFF CHANGES GETTING APPROVED FOR 2018

Bills Wall of Famer Steve Tasker left the meetings in New York at the NFL offices encouraged that the kickoff isn't going away, but rather tweaked to reduce injuries on the play.

 

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https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/2018-Playing-Rules-Proposals---NFL-Spring-Meeting.aspx

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[DriveFor1Outta5]

Troy Vincent being involved with player safety is ironic. Wonder what his take on breaking teammates legs in practice is? 

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[SoCal Deek]

Are kickoffs really more prone to injury than other plays? I can’t say that I’ve noticed that. If they get rid of kickoffs that’ll be one less thing for second string players to do, and will move the NFL one step closer to becoming the virtually unwatchable NBA on turf!

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1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Are kickoffs really more prone to injury than other plays? I can’t say that I’ve noticed that. If they get rid of kickoffs that’ll be one less thing for second string players to do, and will move the NFL one step closer to becoming the virtually unwatchable NBA on turf!

 

By far.

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Owners approve changes to kickoff play for 2018

NFL owners voted Tuesday to adopt a revamped kickoff play for the 2018 season.

 

The changes will make kickoffs more like punts and limit full-speed collisions. The adjustments were made in conjunction with special teams coaches and members of the league's Competition Committee during a player safety summit at the league's headquarters in New York earlier this month. On Tuesday, owners also expanded reviewable plays to include disqualification of players.

 

Some key takeaways:

1. Players on the kicking team cannot line up more than one yard from the point of the kickoff. The previous rule allowed players to line up five yards from the restraining line (typically 35-yard line), allowing them to have more of a running start before the kick.

 

2. The wedge block has been eliminated. Only players who line up in the setup zone (between their own 40 and opponents' 45-yard line) can put together double-team blocks.

 

3. Until the ball is touched or hits the ground, no player on the receiving team may cross the restraining line (typically its 45) or initiate a block. This forces blockers on the receiving team to run back and block, which greatly decreases the chance of an "attack" block that can result in a high-speed collision.

 

4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback.

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[NickelCity]

7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Oh boy. This is going to be a bear for officials and players, 

[GG]

26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback.

 

Huh?  Isn't it still a live ball? What if a squibb kick bounces into the end-zone?

[Captain_Quint]

Dont know if I like the touchback part. No returns out of the endzone allowed?

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[BobbyC81]

10 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:

Dont know if I like the touchback part. No returns out of the endzone allowed?

 

Only if the ball hits the ground.  This could be called “The Bills Rule” for their failure to cover a kickoff in the end zone that the Jets recovered for a touchdown.

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11 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback.

 

 

Mike Gillislee approves this rule change.

[Nanker]

Thank Gosh they didn’t show any Pats*** allegedly committing a foul in one of those videos. It would have immediately called into question the veracity of the NFL and their new rules.  

[Soda Popinski]

As long as guys are still allowed to run behind their pads and lower their shoulders to make hits i'm ok.   Yes the head comes down when the pads come down but if the runner or tackler is not initiating contact with the head, there should not be a penalty.   

 

The lowering of the head is still a gigantic issue at the most basic level of football. peewees and pop warner, I still see 10yard apart straight up hits on instagram being celebrated, it's a stupid drill and it should not be encouraged.  Same with  coaches yelling that players need to get their head across the body when making a tackle.   Just make the tackle don't worry about head placement, take the head out of the game.  i coached peewees, and on angle tackles, we concentrated on getting a players belly button on the runner, forget the head, get them to tackle with the HIPS, and shoulder pads.   head in front, head behind no matter hit and wrap up and drive through.    But it's still being taught incorrectly from the get go. 

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[Jasovon]

More returns is good for the game so as long as there are less injuries i can see this actually being better overall.

[Soda Popinski]

So 5 x 5 on kickoffs, what about onside kicks?   Same rule?  

[aristocrat]

53 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

So 5 x 5 on kickoffs, what about onside kicks?   Same rule?  

 

yea whats the deal with onside kicks? 

[MTBill]

I think these changes will retain the "feel" of a kickoff - and reduce injuries (which is their goal).

 

What I am more curious about is how this will affect an onside kick attempt - given the fact the receiving team now has to wait until after the ball gets to the 45 to initiate any contact - it really seems like an onside could be "more" effective.  I wonder if they tried this out at all - or consulted with ST coaches?

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[Fadingpain]

I have still seen no meaningful data linking kickoff plays specifically to CTE or even head trauma in general.

 

The NFL appears to be intent on creating a track record of action so as to create the illusion that they are taking preventative measures to help prevent head trauma. 

 

Modifying kickoffs is not going to impact overall cases of CTE IMO.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing K/Os go away simply b/c they are used as a scam nowadays to pack in more commercials. 

 

Someone scores?  Give the ball to the other team on yard line X.  And keep the game moving! 

 

K/Os are rarely exciting, and they almost always give rise to a penalty anyway.

 

Preserve the ability to do an  onside kick if scoring team wants to.  With the caveat that the kicking team has to actually do the onside kick if they line up for it.

 

 

 

[artmalibu]

I think the no running start by the kick team will encourage more returns.  It will take the coverage unite more time to get down field.  May be a rule that backfires

[row_33]

On 5/22/2018 at 4:11 PM, SoCal Deek said:

Are kickoffs really more prone to injury than other plays? I can’t say that I’ve noticed that. If they get rid of kickoffs that’ll be one less thing for second string players to do, and will move the NFL one step closer to becoming the virtually unwatchable NBA on turf!

 

easily

 

it was a great method of taking out someone on the other team by hitting him at full speed, especially the smallest person on the field

 

if you could line him up and truck him while he wasn't quite paying attention to your approach, good night Sir...........

 

 

[GreggTX]

I agree with the OP, but force is mass times acceleration, not velocity. M x V = Momentum

On May 23, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Soda Popinski said:

So 5 x 5 on kickoffs, what about onside kicks?   Same rule?  

You'd be getting TD returns like crazy! Think about all that open field!

Edited June 5, 2018 by GreggTX

[reddogblitz]

On 5/1/2018 at 6:59 PM, The Frankish Reich said:

 

EDIT: By the way, Lorax is a good interview. He pretty much gave Josh Allen a pass on the whole racist tweet thing, stating what many of us have said: thank God there was no social media when I was 16. The whole thing was on what was once called Mike & Mike.

 

He should have just said those things behind the hand ball courts with his buds when they snuck out to smoke a cigarette as opposed to memorializing it.

 

Twitter is dumb IMHO.

Edited June 5, 2018 by reddogblitz

[aristocrat]

So I heard on the radio that a guy in Toronto had no history of concussions but had cte. Wonder if that will change what we think the cause is?