Draft predictions....

[sjjr]

The Falcons also took Favre in the 2nd round to develop.  Relatively low risk.  Trading up for QB project like Allen would be very risky with the cost involved.

[NickelCity]

All these Allen predictions have me thoroughly shook...and unfortunately I've become more and more convinced that Darnold and Rosen really are a step above. I have no idea how the draft will shake out. I'm pessimistic, naturally. 

 

Tier 1: Darnold/Rosen

Tier 2: Mayfield

Tier 3: Allen/Jackson

Tier 4: Everyone else

 

[Domdab99]

15 minutes ago, sjjr said:

The Falcons also took Favre in the 2nd round to develop.  Relatively low risk.  Trading up for QB project like Allen would be very risky with the cost involved.

 

15 minutes ago, sjjr said:

 

19 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

Yes I realize that.  Just trying to convince myself Allen will be acceptable.  Don't feel like jumping off a bridge if it happens.

 

 

If the Bills trade up to draft Allen, I'm finding the nearest bridge. 

[elltrain22]

Here's a pipe dream, but....

We are able to catch Rosen on a slide to 6 or 7, which is very possible. Then we keep 22, draft DJ Moore, then move up to the end of round 1 and take Raashan Evans 

Bang, 3 solid starters, plus the most pro ready QB in the draft

[Victory Formation]

My prediction is we end up with Baker Mayfield, he slides down to 10 because of height and character concerns. Buffalo swaps 12 for 10 with Oakland and selects Baker Mayfield.

 

Oakland receives: #12 and #96.

 

Buffalo receives: #10.

 

Buffalo keeps 22, 53, 56 and 65.

 

 

 

[BBillsWestCoast]

4 hours ago, K-9 said:

Can't see the Giants agreeing to deal with the Jets. Ever. I'd be shocked. 

It would be a no brainer trade for the Giants and I get the thought, but it wouldn't be for Mayfield (smoke screen). Anytime you can move back 1 slot and still get still get your guy it is a good deal. I believe the Jets stay at 3 and live with the way the draft plays out. 

[Victory Formation]

Mayfield is only 6ft, look at Drew Brees and Russell Wilson, they were really good prospects but fell due to height. I truly believe Mayfield has the best chance to drop, I really do. I don't think the Jets are going to take Mayfield, they want Allen. I think Darnold goes #1, Rosen slides to #5 and ends up with the Broncos. I don't believe that Rosen drops for one second, I just don't believe it. 

[FeelingOnYouboty]

We trade up for Josh Rosen. It's clear we want a Day 1 starter with the way we didn't really chase any of the UFA QB's or make a trade for Foles. I'm going to give the Bills management the benefit of the doubt and say they're smart enough to realize that Josh Allen is no where near ready to start on Day 1. 

 

Everything they've talked about size, accuracy, intelligence, arm points to Rosen.

[Augie]

I wonder if it was in the weeks before the draft that Einstein realized that time is relative, because it seems to be standing still.

 

I’ll say Allen, the guy some people have going #1 overall,  is the guy who falls. He’s got the amazing upside, but he’s a project and I’m not sure he’s a “natural thrower of the football” (yeah, I’m talking about you, EJ!).  Get me Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield and I’m thrilled. 

[BBillsWestCoast]

Allen

Chubb

Darnold

Barkley

Rosen

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Baker or Lamar

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Bills

 

I am sticking with my same prediction. If we can get to #2 and not give up more than the trade value sheet or somehow save the round 1 pick next year than pull the trigger if there is a guy you absolutely LOVE. It would have to be a clear choice will little doubt and I would give up 3x first round picks in value.

 

Otherwise sit and wait for a move to pick #5 or Pick #9. 2 of the 5 QBs will slide this year to sat least pick #9 and 50% of the QBs in round 1 will be busts. Do the math. 2 will be longterm starters (Darnold and ?), one will bounce around the league and be good like a Jay Cutler and 2 will be back ups or out of the league in a 4-5 years. There will be 1-2 gems in rounds 2-4 that sit and wait behind a great QB.

 

I cannot predict anything until the Browns finally say who they are picking. I do not want Lamar or Baker unless we get them later in round #1 (12 or 22). I feel that after the top 3 prototypical QBs that we can wait until round 2-3 and get the same quality as Mayfield or Lamar. The differences is just waiting longer for them to develop.

 

I still feel that Rosen will fall to pick #5 and he his probably the logical choice, but it may be Allen? It may go Allen, then Darnold, and Rosen.

 

Note: I would be OK with Baker or Lamar at pick 9, but no higher. 

 

 

[sjjr]

Only can trade up for Darnold or maybe Rosen if they love him and believe they can handle him.  If not, just sit back and get a guy to lead the defense for the future at 12 like Vanderesch or R.Smith then M.Rudolph at 22.

 

Should get some great value in the 2nd and 3rd rounds on OL and DL.

[FeelingOnYouboty]

4 hours ago, PIZ said:

 

I could see Josh Allen getting to 5 and Elway take him.  His play reminds me of Elway.  As far as accuracy, look at Brett Favres college stats:

 

1897... 40.7.
1988... 55.8.
1989... 54.1.
1990... 54.5.

 

I'm warming up to the idea of Josh Allen.

 

 

 

What's the big difference between 80's college football and now?

[sjjr]

8 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

What's the big difference between 80's college football and now?

A lot more running and downfield throws then.  Lower percentage throws.  A lot more QBs were below 60% then.

 

Today, its hard to find a good starting NFL QB that had less than a 60% completion pct in college (M.Stafford, J.Cutler, T.Taylor).  Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen will be fighting the percentages to be successful starting QBs in the NFL.

[Wily Dog]

1 hour ago, Domdab99 said:

 

 

If the Bills trade up to draft Allen, I'm finding the nearest bridge. 

Have a nice swim. 

3 way with Browns , Giants , and Bill's

Bill's   - Allen

Browns - Darnold

Jets   - Rosen

Giants- Barkley

[dollars 2 donuts]

On April 20, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Tatonka68 said:

Trade with Broncos Trade 12+53+96 receive, 5+121

5. Josh Allen QB
22. Rashan Evans ILB
56. Frank Ragnow C
96. Anthony Miller WR
121. Kalen Ballage RB
149. Kevin Toliver II CB
166. Bredan Mahon G

187. Dorian ODaniel OLB

 

 

I dont love Allen, but sexy draft Tatonka.

[BuffAlone]

On 4/20/2018 at 10:32 AM, McBean said:

Draft day prediction that will shake everything up.

 

The New York Giants select a QB.

Is QB the coveted "hog-Mollie" Gentleman likes? Not happening. Nor is Barkley at #2. Its Chubb if they stay there

[Baba Booey]

The Bills get shut out of getting one of the top 4 qbs!!!

[McBean]

5 hours ago, PIZ said:

 

I could see Josh Allen getting to 5 and Elway take him.  His play reminds me of Elway.  As far as accuracy, look at Brett Favres college stats:

 

1897... 40.7.
1988... 55.8.
1989... 54.1.
1990... 54.5.

 

I'm warming up to the idea of Josh Allen.

 

 

Coming from the biggest Allen hater on here, for some weird reason I am too.

 

I think this waiting game is driving me insane.

[NickelCity]

I think Barkley slides. 

[Dr. Who]

7 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

I think Barkley slides. 

What do the Giants do?  Pick Chubb, a qb, trade out?  I can't see Nelson at 2.  To be clear, I would not take Barkley at 2.

[Success]

I have no idea why, but I think Darnold will be a Bill.  I just think that’s the guy they really want, and Beane knows what he needs to do to move up and get him.

[NickelCity]

21 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

What do the Giants do?  Pick Chubb, a qb, trade out?  I can't see Nelson at 2.  To be clear, I would not take Barkley at 2.

 

I think they trade out of it. Gettleman's long tangent on depth the other day seemed like he was more than open to trading back. If I were them I'd take Rosen, assuming Darnold is gone. I'd trade back or take Chubb I guess. 

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, NickelCity said:

 

I think they trade out of it. Gettleman's long tangent on depth the other day seemed like he was more than open to trading back. If I were them I'd take Rosen, assuming Darnold is gone. I'd trade back or take Chubb I guess. 

I hope they trade out of it.  We are the most logical trade partner.  

[McBean]

35 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

What do the Giants do?  Pick Chubb, a qb, trade out?  I can't see Nelson at 2.  To be clear, I would not take Barkley at 2.

The Giants are taking a QB.

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, McBean said:

The Giants are taking a QB.

That would make the most sense.  It is also patently the worst thing that could happen for the Bills.  One would have to scramble and probably pay a fortune to get the fourth qb off the board.

[TPS]

Before Thursday, the Bills swap 12 and 56 for 7 from Tampa bay. 

Depending on how things unfold, they will either move up to 2 or 5, or stay put.

[peterpan]

On 4/20/2018 at 10:32 AM, McBean said:

Draft day prediction that will shake everything up.

 

The New York Giants select a QB.

I expect them to take a QB.  if not they trade down.

[McBean]

2 minutes ago, peterpan said:

I expect them to take a QB.  if not they trade down.

Agreed 100%

[Boatdrinks]

Giants won't take a QB at 2. Won't trade down outside the top 10. It will be Barkley/ Chubb. 

[Solomon Grundy]

On April 20, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Tatonka68 said:

Trade with Broncos Trade 12+53+96 receive, 5+121

5. Josh Allen QB
22. Rashan Evans ILB
56. Frank Ragnow C
96. Anthony Miller WR
121. Kalen Ballage RB
149. Kevin Toliver II CB
166. Bredan Mahon G

187. Dorian ODaniel OLB

Your draft is invalid!! Pick 96 was traded to Denver

[Domdab99]

Here's a reasonable 1st round mock where I had the Bills move up to 6, giving up 12, 21, and a 4th. I know it would probably cost more, but the mock site wouldn't let me do "unreasonable" offers. I didn't do any other trades, because, jesus, that's a rabbit hole once you start doing it. I think the Bills can do something like this without giving away the farm. There is no reason to move up to 2, unless there is only ONE guy they want for QB. 

 

If Rosen does not get picked in the first three, it is perfectly reasonable for the Bills to move into the top ten for him, without giving away 22. Although, I do think it might cost them 22 to eventually do so. 

 

Pick	Team	Player	Pos	College
1:1	CLE	Sam Darnold	QB	USC
1:2	NYG	Saquon Barkley	RB	Penn St.
1:3	NYJ	Baker Mayfield	QB	Oklahoma
1:4	CLE	Bradley Chubb	EDGE	NC St.
1:5	DEN	Quenton Nelson	G	Notre Dame
1:6	BUF	Josh Rosen	QB	UCLA
1:7	TB	Derrius Guice	RB	LSU
1:8	CHI	Harold Landry	EDGE	Boston College
1:9	SF	Roquan Smith	LB	Georgia
1:10	OAK	Connor Williams	OT	Texas
1:11	MIA	Maurice Hurst	DT	Michigan
1:12	IND	Tremaine Edmunds	LB	Virginia Tech
1:13	WAS	Denzel Ward	CB	Ohio St.
1:14	GB	Marcus Davenport	EDGE	UTSA
1:15	ARI	Josh Allen	QB	Wyoming
1:16	BAL	Calvin Ridley	WR	Alabama
1:17	LAC	Lamar Jackson	QB	Louisville
1:18	SEA	Mike McGlinchey	OT	Notre Dame
1:19	DAL	D.J. Chark	WR	LSU
1:20	DET	Isaiah Wynn	G	Georgia
1:21	CIN	Billy Price	C	Ohio St.
1:22	BUF	Leighton Vander Esch	LB	Boise St.
1:23	NE	Derwin James	SS	Florida St.
1:24	CAR	Joshua Jackson	CB	Iowa
1:25	TEN	Rashaan Evans	LB	Alabama
1:26	ATL	Da'Ron Payne	DT	Alabama
1:27	NO	D.J. Moore	WR	Maryland
1:28	PIT	Minkah Fitzpatrick	FS	Alabama
1:29	JAX	Will Hernandez	G	UTEP
1:30	MIN	Vita Vea	NT	Washington
1:31	NE	Courtland Sutton	WR	SMU
1:32	PHI	Ronnie Harrison	FS	Alabama

[maryland-bills-fan]

On 4/20/2018 at 10:24 AM, TheElectricCompany said:

1) The QB rush doesn't happen as forecasted. I think Darnold and Mayfield slide 

2) The Bills don't trade up to #4 or #5 for their QB, they make something work in the #8-#10 range. 

3) The Giants pass on a QB at #2, but trade up in the late first for one. 

4) Mike McGlinchey goes in top 10. 

 

Also I expect this.  Some teams are really going to go for the hype and be taken for suckers.

On 4/20/2018 at 12:06 PM, No Place To Hyde said:

Here's where I'm at right now.

 

1. Cle: Darnold- There are way too many good football minds in that room right now to screw this one up

 

2. Jets: Mayfield- I think the Jets pull a move to make sure they get their guy. Giants like picking up a free pick or 2 and still get Thier guy with zero risk.

 

3. Giants: Chubb- I think they improve their pass rush and get a value back later on.

 

4. Cle: James-another Could be Fitzpatrick or Barkley as well

 

5. BUFFALO: Josh Allen- Just thinking this is who they will take. Also, I always get the Bills pick wrong...so hopefully this means we don't take him. 

 

Past that (and assuming we have to give up both 1sts to outbid Arizona) I see us moving around quite a bit in the draft. I'll wager that we take 2 picks where we are currently scheduled and the rest we slide up and down the board.

 

My best guess is Rosen ends up in Arizona.

Yep.  That 6 QB rating against Colorado last year really looked good.   And the 30 rating against Iowa.

DATE	OPP	RESULT
9/2	@Iowa	L 24-3
9/9	Gardner-Webb	W 27-0
9/16	Oregon	L 49-13
9/23	Hawai'i	W 28-21 (OT)
9/30	Texas State	W 45-10
10/14	@Utah State	W 28-23
10/21	@Boise State	L 24-14
10/28	New Mexico	W 42-3
11/4	Colorado State	W 16-13
11/11	@Air Force	W 28-14
11/18	Fresno State	L 13-7
11/25	@San Jose State	L 20-17

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

On ‎4‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 7:56 AM, the skycap said:

Your draft is invalid!! Pick 96 was traded to Denver

Trade next years #1 for pick #96.... we must get Anthony Miller !!!

Edited April 24, 2018 by MOVALLEYRANDY

[The Jokeman]

Rosen falls out of the top 5 and we move up to number 7 to take him. I'm not sure what the formula is to get him but it will probably take another pick in this draft.

On 4/21/2018 at 5:42 PM, NickelCity said:

I think Barkley slides. 

The lowest I could see him is 4 yet  think he goes to the Giants at 2.