Real McClappy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Yeah the Jets are stupid. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, McBean said: It’s the Browns and they are stupid so you might be right. Still, that changes nothing. 1. Barkley 2. Rosen 3. Darnold 4. Allen 5. Mayfield I don't think the Giants or Broncos are convinced they need a QB. The Giants have holes all over the field and could try to rebuild around Eli for a year or two (not saying I'd do this but money, aka draft picks, talk). The Broncos have an aging team and are in win now mode. They just gave Case Keenum $26 mil guaranteed and could easily role with him for the next two years. Giving them a ton of picks would allow them to upgrade at RB and on the offensive line. I think both teams would trade down if given a reason to. I think the Broncos are the more likely of the two given how good their defense is they could be looking at a very quick turnaround with above average QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said: It is a mistake for the Jets. Even if the Giants stay put, what if they draft a QB? That men’s the Jets traded up for the 3rd best QB in the draft. They were forced to make this move. You make this move on draft day, when you know the guy you want is there. This is a trade up and you can’t even target anyone. Of course they’ll say player X was their choice all along. If that happens then the Jets will have traded for the third selected QB in the draft. It does not necessarily mean that QB is the 3rd best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Well everyine is going to see what the second tier QBs are about in Buffalo. Like many wanted because unless you get to two you are shut out of the top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Browns are going to take Barkley #1 and Allen #4. I guarantee it. That carries about as much weight as my barber guaranteeing me a shot at Kate Upton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Which again is why we should have tanked. Dont worry youll get to see what a real tank job looks like with AJ and Peterman tossing the ball around this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Yeah the Jets are stupid. LOL I mean, Todd Bowles is still their HC last I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: If that happens then the Jets will have traded for the third selected QB in the draft. It does not necessarily mean that QB is the 3rd best. True. But it's entirely possible they will be selecting their 3rd ranked QB on their board. We will never be privy to that because of course they'll say it's who they were targeting all along. Would you trade up to a spot, unsure of which QB you might be getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: Dont worry youll get to see what a real tank job looks like with AJ and Peterman tossing the ball around this year. And unfortunately next years qb class is pure **** Edited March 17, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, bobobonators said: You do realize that just bc our guy is there at #2 doesnt mean that the Giants are going to trade with us right? People seem to think Beane controls his owm destiny - he doesnt. As of right now, the Jets are 100% in a better position than us to get their guy. Get their guy? They have no idea if they can get their guy. They will either get the 2nd or 3rd QB in the draft, that may or may not be "their guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jrober38 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Thurman#1 said: That carries about as much weight as my barber guaranteeing me a shot at Kate Upton. Naw, there's no shot that happens. What I'm saying is what's going to happen. Everything they've done so far makes sense. Tyrod is the steady hand at QB, with Josh Gordon stretching the field (what Tyrod does best) and Landry working the slot. Njoku can stretch the seem at the TE spot. Barkley gives their run game instant credibility. Allen is the guy they love (has been reported on and off for a while now), and having Tyrod allows them to red shirt him for a year and then insert him into a supremely talented offense in 2019. Wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SmokinES3 said: I mean, Todd Bowles is still their HC last I checked. Spot on here with Bowles. At least they will have 2 QB's to bridge with and possible FQB for the future. Bridgewater seems like a waste now. McCown paired with Rosen, Baker or Darnold would have been perfect alone. Either way, they will have this along with Bridgewater. They have exactly what I wanted us to have I not sure how that is a mistake though to this thread? Edited March 17, 2018 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Spot on here with Bowles. At least they will have 2 QB's to bridge with and possible FQB for the future. Bridgewater seems like a waste now. McCown paired with Rosen, Baker or Darnold would have been perfect alone. Either way, they will have this along with Bridgewater. They have exactly what I wanted us to have I not sure how that is a mistake though to this thread? Well I don't want to keep repeating myself but I will say, maybe for the Jets, it really doesn't matter to them who they get. Maybe they have no strong preference. But in the case that they do have a preference, then they just opened a narrow gap for the Bills to trade over them and get the player they want most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Joe BannerVerified account @JoeBanner13 1m1 minute ago Jets pass on Watson and Mahommes to take excellent safety then spent 15M on TWO back up QB’s then use a 1 and 3 twos to get second/third best QB in draft. It could work out, but this is a lot of bad decision making and inefficient use of cap $’s and draft picks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Joe BannerVerified account @JoeBanner13 1m1 minute ago Jets pass on Watson and Mahommes to take excellent safety then spent 15M on TWO back up QB’s then use a 1 and 3 twos to get second/third best QB in draft. It could work out, but this is a lot of bad decision making and inefficient use of cap $’s and draft picks. Woot woot! Who is this Joe Banner who seems so wise? He is quoted by Andre Reed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Get their guy? They have no idea if they can get their guy. They will either get the 2nd or 3rd QB in the draft, that may or may not be "their guy." And what idea do we have at 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elite Poster Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 58 minutes ago, Mat68 said: They didnt have gusto to do it now what would change on draft night? Buffalo knows what it would take and that is why they made that trade with the Bengals. Beane is too calculated to trade to 3 this far out from the draft. The top organizations are not going to grade the top 5 Qbs similar. They are not all going to be great pros. The NFL has 13 good QBs. This draft isnt going to produce 5. Figure out which one you like best and get him if you think he is a Franchise Qb. Maybe 3 was the only option I dont think that is case. Gettleman wants a kings ransom that Buffalo can pay. 1 is the qb they want going to be their? 2 Is that Qb worth the price tag. Without knowing 1 or 2 I dont understand why you trade that far up. The NFL has 13 good QBs, ok. Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Big Ben, all came from one draft. That's nearly 25% of your 13. Unfortunately, we were left with leftover Losman. History repeats itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Success Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Jets did great. That doesn’t mean the Bills lost. Not that I want the Jets to be good, but I’m glad to see other AFCe teams making these moves. Sick of the Pats benefiting from our collective incompetence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Woot woot! Who is this Joe Banner who seems so wise? He is quoted by Andre Reed? Woot! Woot! Everyone said the same **** when the a Eagles and Rams traded up. Woot! WOOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, bobobonators said: And what idea do we have at 12? We don't either. I never said we did. But you said they are 100% in a better position to get their guy. What if their guy is Rosen and the Giants select him at 2? Are they still 100% better to get their guy? You make a trade to "go get your guy" when you know he's going to be there when you select. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well everyine is going to see what the second tier QBs are about in Buffalo. Like many wanted because unless you get to two you are shut out of the top 4 ...so which one comes with a warranty and refundable draft capital if a bust?.....top 4, top 12, 1st round, 2nd round?......NONE....caveat emptor... Edited March 17, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Success said: The Jets did great. That doesn’t mean the Bills lost. Not that I want the Jets to be good, but I’m glad to see other AFCe teams making these moves. Sick of the Pats benefiting from our collective incompetence Agreed I'm so tired of handing those fools 6wins a year for an almost guaranteed Playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Elite Poster said: Woot! Woot! Everyone said the same **** when the a Eagles and Rams traded up. Woot! WOOT! Rams went to 1 and was obvisous that they wanted Geoff. Eagles wanted Wentz and went to 2. At 3 the jets could realistically traded all those picks for the 3rd qb drafted that could have been there at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Pretty sure the Jets tried getting to 2 first. The Giants probably don’t want to trade out or are asking for something unreasonable to make it happen. I don’t see how this is an advantage for us since the Giants can either stay put at 2 or bend us over the table since they know we need to jump the Jets. McDermott and Gettleman have a relationship. Maybe they already have an agreement to trade even if they haven't agreed on trade capital, yet. Maybe all this did is drive up our price a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Rams went to 1 and was obvisous that they wanted Geoff. Eagles wanted Wentz and went to 2. At 3 the jets could realistically traded all those picks for the 3rd qb drafted that could have been there at 6. Beane and maybe Elway have scared them. If the Jet's are not happy picking 1 of the top 3 QB's after this move then yes they were stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: We don't either. I never said we did. But you said they are 100% in a better position to get their guy. What if their guy is Rosen and the Giants select him at 2? Are they still 100% better to get their guy? You make a trade to "go get your guy" when you know he's going to be there when you select. 100% better in that the odds of landing your guy at 3 are better than 12. Lets not argue semantics now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: McDermott and Gettleman have a relationship. Maybe they already have an agreement to trade even if they haven't agreed on trade capital, yet. Maybe all this did is drive up our price a little bit. Perhaps they have agreed to discuss a trade but how could they have an agreement to trade if they don’t know what is being traded yet? And I'm sure it drove the price up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Beane and maybe Elway have scared them. If the Jet's are not happy picking 1 of the top 3 QB's after this move then yes they were stupid. I just do not see how a pro organization would not value 1 of the 4 to 5 Qbs higher. They are all very unique skill set wise so one of them would have be the target. 3 leaves alot of variables and you could be stuck drafting a guy your not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Just a word if you will allow me. The Jets just traded into the 3rd spot of the first round. I feel grim about that just like everyone because it makes it look like we might get shut out from having our choice. I think the only person truly happy about it is AJ McCarron, who is probably still dancing as I speak. But it was a mistake. This was never going to be easy and it is more like a gunfight than anything else. Somebody is going to live and somebody is going to die. Beane will keep his cool, because Beane will know that the Jets just locked themselves in to taking whoever is left at 3. So the Jets have played their cards too soon which leaves Beane with a small advantage. Beane still has the option to trade up if the guy he wants is there at 2. The Jets just made it so we can get ahead of them. We don't have to worry about them any more if you look at it that way. You get 15 minutes I think it is in round one to wheel and deal. If the Bills see somebody they want bad enough they can probably trade ahead of the Jets and get who they want. While the Jets are pretty much locked in. The whole thing is dicey but we just got a small advantage here. I don't believe they will, but if the Browns take Barkey #1, this Jets move could result in the Buffalo Bills getting first pick of all the quarterbacks. They can get whoever they want. If he's dancing it's because he just signed a $10 million contract and has a hot wife. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I will say the only team happier about the this trade than the Jets is the Giants. If they want to trade the price just got richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: I just do not see how a pro organization would not value 1 of the 4 to 5 Qbs higher. They are all very unique skill set wise so one of them would have be the target. 3 leaves alot of variables and you could be stuck drafting a guy your not as much. I totally agree with you. Jet's seem to be reacting to this QB thing on emotions more than brains. They are chewing up cap with the FA signings and then making this move. I HATE the term some people use for the Bill's but it's a very Jetsy think to do. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Perhaps they have agreed to discuss a trade but how could they have an agreement to trade if they don’t know what is being traded yet? And I'm sure it drove the price up a lot. Yes, it drove it up a lot, but it was always going to cost us a lot to move up into the top of the draft. Maybe this just increases our chances of staying put at 12 and drafting whoever falls. As long as that's not Allen, I'm good with that. I'm sure McCarron is ecstatic right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: .take the guy that comes with a warranty, money back guarantee and return of your draft pick if he busts......simple..... Yeah, well how have you liked the past 20 plus years? No need to be a douche bag to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah, well how have you liked the past 20 plus years? No need to be a douche bag to me. ...grow up or forward your resume' to OBD IN DIRE NEED OF FOOTBALL EXPERTS ONE DESPERATION DRIVE ORCHARD PARK NY 14127 ...Binghamton know-it-alls get first preference above all lowly minions.....take a hike.................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tierlifer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...grow up or forward your resume' to OBD IN DIRE NEED OF FOOTBALL EXPERTS ONE DESPERATION DRIVE ORCHARD PARK NY 14127 ...Binghamton know-it-alls get first preference above all lowly minions.....take a hike.................... He probably lives on Liberty St on the North side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...grow up or forward your resume' to OBD IN DIRE NEED OF FOOTBALL EXPERTS ONE DESPERATION DRIVE ORCHARD PARK NY 14127 ...Binghamton know-it-alls get first preference above all lowly minions.....take a hike.................... Yeah, because you don’t come off as a know it all. Save me with your cute little phrases, Oldie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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