gobilz Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Gather the pitch forks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Would be really disappointed if they pick Allen with Rosen on the board. Yep me too. It was just the standard Big Arm analysis and then the lazy connection of Carolina did it when they were there with Newton getting big arm with accuracy issues. Now i ask Mike Mayock has Cam improved his accuracy issues????? NOPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Just a connection between Carolina taking a big QB with accuracy issues. Ick I used to wonder about the Cam Newton comparison but Beane got out of Carolina the second he could. He'd be the GM there now if he wanted to be. I don't think that's his type at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 One thing Mayock can be counted on is Over Valuing ND prospects with the McGlinchy mock pick there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Would be really disappointed if they pick Allen with Rosen on the board. Would be like Maybin over Orakpo but the QB version... so even worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I used to wonder about the Cam Newton comparison but Beane got out of Carolina the second he could. He'd be the GM there now if he wanted to be. I don't think that's his type at all. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Well, that’s that. Don’t even have to watch the actual draft tomorrow. Not only that, I don’t even have to wait for the pick at number 22. I can get back to the Yankee game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep me too. It was just the standard Big Arm analysis and then the lazy connection of Carolina did it when they were there with Newton getting big arm with accuracy issues. Now i ask Mike Mayock has Cam improved his accuracy issues????? NOPE It's about pre and post snap reads with an inability to process information fast enough beyond any accuracy issues caused by mechanics that also has to be overcome. Edited April 26, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I agree. Allen just makes no sense for what this regime has done so far. Move on from a team with Cam Newton, cut Cardale Jones, pass on Pat Mahomes, take a noodle arm QB in the 5th round. I am pretty sure they value accuracy a lot more than arm strength. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Could have had Rosen if stayed at 12. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I used to wonder about the Cam Newton comparison but Beane got out of Carolina the second he could. He'd be the GM there now if he wanted to be. I don't think that's his type at all. I actually thought about this over the last several months. I think what Beane learned is to take the most polished QB he can. He and McDermott have said this is a downfield game...short, intermediate and deep...they will take the QB they think best fits this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Allen just makes no sense for what this regime has done so far. Move on from a team with Cam Newton, cut Cardale Jones, pass on Pat Mahomes, take a noodle arm QB in the 5th round. I am pretty sure they value accuracy a lot more than arm strength. Yeah I agree. I think their board is Darnold, Rosen Mayfield. Even Darnold could be lower with his to issues but all three have great ball placement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 !@#$ you Mayock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) Mayock's 2017 mock correctly predicted just 4 picks (3 in the top 10). He knows as little as anyone. Edited April 26, 2018 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Ittakestime said: Could have had Rosen if stayed at 12. LOL Well, that's like pissing in the punch bowl for me. This lead up is just... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 In that scenario I can’t believe they would take Allen over Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Pft with apparently someone in the know involved also has us taking Allen at #6. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/25/pfts-one-and-only-2018-mock-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Would be like Maybin over Orakpo but the QB version... so even worse. Too many times in that position with Whitner over Ngata as another example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 ugh cant wait for this to be over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Pft with apparently someone in the know involved also has us taking Allen at #6. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/25/pfts-one-and-only-2018-mock-draft/ $*&@!! Rosen to the Fins? Enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Well good thing is Mayock is only 28% accurate in his mocks since 2008. https://i.redd.it/wwmsa3s5ksi01.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Pft with apparently someone in the know involved also has us taking Allen at #6. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/25/pfts-one-and-only-2018-mock-draft/ [Editor’s note: I’ve had very little to do with this mock draft. So don’t blame me if you hate it. If you like it, I’ll take the credit. The mock draft was largely with input from people who have experience drafting players, including one person whose name would be instantly recognizable and would prompt you to say, “Maybe this isn’t a bunch of BS, after all.” Regardless, here it is.] We'll soon see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Jesse Pantuosco (@JessePantuosco) 4/23/18, 11:49 AM Josh Rosen and Josh Allen had 2 mutual opponents last year: Oregon and Hawaii. Rosen's stats in those 2 games: 43-61 (70.5 completion percentage), 595 passing yards, 7 TD, 0 INT, 190.3 QB rating. Allen: 18-43 (41.9), 156 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 73.4 QB rating. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Jesse Pantuosco (@JessePantuosco) 4/23/18, 11:49 AM Josh Rosen and Josh Allen had 2 mutual opponents last year: Oregon and Hawaii. Rosen's stats in those 2 games: 43-61 (70.5 completion percentage), 595 passing yards, 7 TD, 0 INT, 190.3 QB rating. Allen: 18-43 (41.9), 156 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 73.4 QB rating. Yeah but the Bills have an established QB coach and lots of weapons in the pas- eff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Twenty Four Hours ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'm worried Allen is that one QB Beane loves. I worry Mayock knows that we love Allen. We need Cleve to take him first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) Mark it down. With the first overall pick in the NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select Josh Allen, QB out of Wyoming. Not getting Big Ben really bothered me when that occurred as well. I was certain he was our guy, likely was. If so, why don’t you move up? As a result Buffalo’s women were more safe. But long playoff drought. Edited April 26, 2018 by KzooMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I for one am happy to see them pick Allen over Rosen, though the fact that Rosen and Lamar slid to 15 and 16 respectively would annoy me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Would be really disappointed if they pick Allen with Rosen on the board. I wouldn't Rosen might be the slickest QB in the draft but there are real reasons why he would fall in the draft. Unlike Arron Rodgers, I highly doubt this kid even plays a full season...ever! Listen to what Mayock said, as Allen has the best arm talent in the draft, football IQ like Carson Wentz and if he can get over some hurdles he could be special. There are real reasons as to why Mayock ranks him as his #2 QB in this year's draft. Once it's all said and done and if given time to develop with good coaching Josh Allen will be the best QB/player in this years draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 2/15/2018 at 4:43 PM, Ittakestime said: Mayock gets his rankings from what he is hearing in league circles. I think people are going to be surprised when Allen is drafted really high. Rosen is overrated, not sure why people are so in love with him. Attitude and injuries are too big of negatives for him to go high. You just described what some were saying about Jim Kelly when he came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Mayock's '18 mock draft: Bills trade up for QB Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: You just described what some were saying about Jim Kelly when he came out. It was only the injury factor with Jim Kelly as he had a severe shoulder separation that derailed his senior year and it was so bad he needed pins inserted to hold it together. Plus, the doctors told him he might never regain a full throwing motion. Kelly had no attitude problem save for the fact that he stated he didn't want to play in the colder cities after playing in Miami in college. Nobody wanted to play for the Buffalo Bills back in the early 80's, nobody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I wouldn't Rosen might be the slickest QB in the draft but there are real reasons why he would fall in the draft. Unlike Arron Rodgers, I highly doubt this kid even plays a full season...ever! Listen to what Mayock said, as Allen has the best arm talent in the draft, football IQ like Carson Wentz and if he can get over some hurdles he could be special. There are real reasons as to why Mayock ranks him as his #2 QB in this year's draft. Once it's all said and done and if given time to develop with good coaching Josh Allen will be the best QB/player in this years draft class. Listen to all of those ifs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Nihilarian said: It was only the injury factor with Jim Kelly as he had a severe shoulder separation that derailed his senior year and it was so bad he needed pins inserted to hold it together. Plus, the doctors told him he might never regain a full throwing motion. Kelly had no attitude problem save for the fact that he stated he didn't want to play in the colder cities after playing in Miami in college. Nobody wanted to play for the Buffalo Bills back in the early 80's, nobody! Really hmmmm did he not say I am here in houston want to retire here and say something like buffalo or houston you get the point. Ans what is Rosens attitude problem again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I wouldn't Rosen might be the slickest QB in the draft but there are real reasons why he would fall in the draft. Unlike Arron Rodgers, I highly doubt this kid even plays a full season...ever! Listen to what Mayock said, as Allen has the best arm talent in the draft, football IQ like Carson Wentz and if he can get over some hurdles he could be special. There are real reasons as to why Mayock ranks him as his #2 QB in this year's draft. Once it's all said and done and if given time to develop with good coaching Josh Allen will be the best QB/player in this years draft class. Allen had his collarbone shattered and put together from 7 broken pieces. Two years ago. So he’s injury prone too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 This will be my mindset going forward, and I think someone here posted it. We just got rid of and passed on all the cannon-armed-inaccurate quarterbacks. Why take one now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Riley is all he will get wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I wouldn't Rosen might be the slickest QB in the draft but there are real reasons why he would fall in the draft. Unlike Arron Rodgers, I highly doubt this kid even plays a full season...ever! Listen to what Mayock said, as Allen has the best arm talent in the draft, football IQ like Carson Wentz and if he can get over some hurdles he could be special. There are real reasons as to why Mayock ranks him as his #2 QB in this year's draft. Once it's all said and done and if given time to develop with good coaching Josh Allen will be the best QB/player in this years draft class. He very well could be, and I will be more than happy to give him a chance. if he ends up being the next Bledsoe though, my whipping stick will be wailing all over him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Mayock clearly states that Allen needs to sit behind a Brees, Manning, or Brady for a year to learn how to be an NFL quarterback. Sooooo....I suppose the Bills are hoping that sitting behind AJ McCarron will be just as good? I wanna vomit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Too much chatter around Allen and Buffalo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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