Augie Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: A 5th and future cap space. I’d say somewhere in importance between the cap space and the 5th rounder is the message about the expected culture. So, maybe three things. Too little for many, but I get it both sides of the argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Nihilarian said: I happen to love the Kelvin Benjamin signing as this team hasn't had a big, tall red zone WR target in forever. At 6'5 243 the guy is a monster for DB's to cover and this should become more evident once he has a legit NFL QB throwing to him. This was a huge move that would have really proved itself had Tyrod thrown to him more often. Beane attempted to get Taylor more help and the guy gave up when he thought the team was going to tank by trading away so much talent. I think I'll wait and see how this offseason goes before I start judging. /thread. The fact that he went out and got Benjamin is a big deal. It’s not Beanes fault that the qb couldn’t get him the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Well I can see how this thread is going! But I will chime in anyway. I too think McDermott did most of the heavy lifting with the roster changes. Doug Whaley was more of a figurehead for the trades and the draft, McDermott was making the decisions. And Beane wasn't here. Obviously Beane can't be blamed for not being hired. But he actually hasn't contributed a bunch yet. Also, Beane recently made an awkward statement in my opinion. He said recently "we know we have to get younger in a lot of positions" in an interview. Of course many will say that is fine. But he should have said get better at positions, not younger. Our oldest players include LeSean McCoy (30), Richie Incognito (35), center Eric Wood (32), Jerry Hughes (30) and kicker Stephen Hauschka (33). I think his words do not sound very good to those guys. McDermott is smoother and wouldn't have put things that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, CanadianFan said: This past season was a great success due to McDermott's ability to pull some rabbits out of the hat. Creating something out of nothing. I know everyone's congratulating the coaching and management for the success. But let's reflect on what contributed to that success. What did Beane add to that team? His biggest free agency signing - was Anquan Boldin. Who contributed ZERO catches to the team's 31st ranked passing offense. His biggest trade acquisition was - Kelvin Benjamin. Who provided 16 catches for the 31st ranked passing offense. Essentially, Beane had ZERO POSITIVE IMPACT for 2017. Beane will have to prove his worth, and earn some of the accolades he's gotten undeservedly from this past season. As a famous football movie said, "SHOW ME THE MONEY". I'm waiting. Brilliant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) -Picked up Deonte Thompson who won us a game (which was needed to make the playoffs) -He got rid of Dareus' contract Remind me who the Patriot's GM is? Edited January 16, 2018 by Jobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I have heard talking heads mention how management has us going in the right direction. I would agree that McDermott has been very involved and that McBeane has been a throw in on the compliments. There were a couple of trades on his watch. The success of those are still debatable. I hope his relationship with McDermott will allow him to coexist peacefully with McD so we can continue to make forward progress. This sentiment usually bounces around my noggin when I hear someone say how well HE has done. This year he gets to earn the praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, CanadianFan said: This past season was a great success due to McDermott's ability to pull some rabbits out of the hat. Creating something out of nothing. I know everyone's congratulating the coaching and management for the success. But let's reflect on what contributed to that success. What did Beane add to that team? His biggest free agency signing - was Anquan Boldin. Who contributed ZERO catches to the team's 31st ranked passing offense. His biggest trade acquisition was - Kelvin Benjamin. Who provided 16 catches for the 31st ranked passing offense. Essentially, Beane had ZERO POSITIVE IMPACT for 2017. Beane will have to prove his worth, and earn some of the accolades he's gotten undeservedly from this past season. As a famous football movie said, "SHOW ME THE MONEY". I'm waiting. "Preach it, brother!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 The credit for this year is almost entirely McDermott's. I haven't heard too many suggest any different. But Beane is about to enter his first FA and Draft period... doesn't take a genius to work out this is where he will be judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, CanadianFan said: This past season was a great success due to McDermott's ability to pull some rabbits out of the hat. Creating something out of nothing. I know everyone's congratulating the coaching and management for the success. But let's reflect on what contributed to that success. What did Beane add to that team? His biggest free agency signing - was Anquan Boldin. Who contributed ZERO catches to the team's 31st ranked passing offense. His biggest trade acquisition was - Kelvin Benjamin. Who provided 16 catches for the 31st ranked passing offense. Essentially, Beane had ZERO POSITIVE IMPACT for 2017. Beane will have to prove his worth, and earn some of the accolades he's gotten undeservedly from this past season. As a famous football movie said, "SHOW ME THE MONEY". I'm waiting. ...yet the "One & Done Gang" has called for his ouster....apparently his trades/personnel moves have proven enough for them to determine he goes.....wasn't he hired AFTER the draft &FA?......hasn't he assembled a formidable staff of former VP's of Personnel and ex Pro Player Personnel Directors, one of which is already gone, ALL on Pegula's nickel?......isn't this FO shaping up (YES on paper) to potentially be one of the better ones post Polian with real FOOTBALL people in charge versus the patchwork gang of misfits in positions unqualified for or those past their prime despite being RE-TIRED?.....how about citing the last time Buffalo had this type of draft capital assembled going into a draft........Oh Canada.....OBD is no longer your father's Argos.....good Lord.......just keep waiting......... Edited January 16, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Friendly reminder: You are all slowly growing older and inching towards death. Just in case you forgot. You all looked a little too happy, which is not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, CanadianFan said: This past season was a great success due to McDermott's ability to pull some rabbits out of the hat. Creating something out of nothing. I know everyone's congratulating the coaching and management for the success. But let's reflect on what contributed to that success. What did Beane add to that team? His biggest free agency signing - was Anquan Boldin. Who contributed ZERO catches to the team's 31st ranked passing offense. His biggest trade acquisition was - Kelvin Benjamin. Who provided 16 catches for the 31st ranked passing offense. Essentially, Beane had ZERO POSITIVE IMPACT for 2017. Beane will have to prove his worth, and earn some of the accolades he's gotten undeservedly from this past season. As a famous football movie said, "SHOW ME THE MONEY". I'm waiting. you'll be waiting for end of '19 season... trust the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 McBeane is a symbiotic organism, and the Bills FO looks more focused, unified, and directed, than it has been since they fired John Butler. That in and of itself is a HUGE accomplishment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) Stuck to the rebuild plan even though the team was winning. Year one they accomplished what they wanted in terms of fixing cap issues. Now we see if they can find a QB to build around. A lot of work needed. This is not a good roster. Edited January 16, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I feel like this picture should be added to the OP and it would all make much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick B Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, teef said: wait...how should i feel here? i was feeling positive for making the playoffs, but i suppose that's over. i'll go back to being fearful of the future now. For crying out loud. Don't throw in the towel now. The Bills have something solid to build on. I can hardly wait to see what happens in free agency and the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Is this for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, CanadianFan said: This past season was a great success due to McDermott's ability to pull some rabbits out of the hat. Creating something out of nothing. I know everyone's congratulating the coaching and management for the success. But let's reflect on what contributed to that success. What did Beane add to that team? His biggest free agency signing - was Anquan Boldin. Who contributed ZERO catches to the team's 31st ranked passing offense. His biggest trade acquisition was - Kelvin Benjamin. Who provided 16 catches for the 31st ranked passing offense. Essentially, Beane had ZERO POSITIVE IMPACT for 2017. Beane will have to prove his worth, and earn some of the accolades he's gotten undeservedly from this past season. As a famous football movie said, "SHOW ME THE MONEY". I'm waiting. 16 catches thanks to Tyrod Taylor's dumb ***, and you KNOW THAT!!! Our defense held Jacksonville WITHOUT DAREUS to 10 freakin points ON THE ROAD!!!! Quit dumping on Beane after less than a damn year and get serious. Your post is something a Jets fan could whip up and throw against the board... it's pathetic and ridiculous. Edited January 17, 2018 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDhill2 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He has completely revamped the front office and made some great hires. One (Gaine) just took the GM job with Houston. He has accumulated draft capital with picks, he has shed salary and made tough decisions on some players. He has restored credibility to the front office and helped restore credibility to the franchise. I think he has proven much in his first year. Benjamin hurt his knee in his second game for God's sake. It's ok to be positive once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 That is part right. Lets see what he does at Qb. Decent cap space and a ton of picks. This offseason will define his stint in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I'll be watching his every move now. he has shifty eyes. this could be a tell . keep us apprised, and good call by you 5 minutes ago, JDhill2 said: He has completely revamped the front office and made some great hires. One (Gaine) just took the GM job with Houston. He has accumulated draft capital with picks, he has shed salary and made tough decisions on some players. He has restored credibility to the front office and helped restore credibility to the franchise. I think he has proven much in his first year. Benjamin hurt his knee in his second game for God's sake. It's ok to be positive once in a while. then how do you explain Jordan Matthews Hmmm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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