Mat68 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) No. We are a QB, two WR, backup RB, backup tackle, two pass rushers and two linebackers away. Edited January 14, 2018 by PromoTheRobot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: No. We are a QB, two WR, backup RB, backup tackle, two pass rushers and two linebackers away. Glass half empty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: No. We are a QB, two WR, backup RB, backup tackle, two pass rushers and two linebackers away. Interesting take. With even below-average QB play this season, the Bills probably win 2 more games and would still be playing this weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mat68 said: It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. A QB and some offensive weapons. With any type of semi-efficient offense, the defense is good enough. Still need pieces, but offense is the problem worth addressing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 No we are a high school QB away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, Mat68 said: It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. No. McDermott and Frazier had a brilliant game plan for attacking the Jags O, and our team's D over performed vs Jax. What makes me hopeful (see what I did? *g*) is that they were able to craft that plan. But they need DLmen and ILB, and we need at least 1 OLman, 2 WR and a backup RB, plus other depth. 27 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Interesting take. With even below-average QB play this season, the Bills probably win 2 more games and would still be playing getting their butts kicked this weekend. FIFY You're probably right about the two games, but surely you see we need more than that to take it to the next level where we can beat Chargers, N'Orleans, Pitt and Philly, compete with NE etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 30 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Glass half empty? No, but you have to know the Bills overachieved with that lineup. When the OP asks how far away we are, the question becomes "how far from what?" Another wild card? Not that far. Super Bowl contender? Years away. 31 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said: Interesting take. With even below-average QB play this season, the Bills probably win 2 more games and would still be playing this weekend. That's where intangibles come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 37 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: No. We are a QB, two WR, backup RB, backup tackle, two pass rushers and two linebackers away. ....so other than that, we should be in pretty good shape, right??............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....so other than that, we should be in pretty good shape, right??............ Yes actually. Coaching and front office, I think, we are set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Next year's roster could be completely different from what we have today, so I don't know how you're saying these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Buffalo has a fair amount of cap space and loads of draft picks. The team is not without faults but a Qb with potential and at minimum average play should allow Buffalo to play in this weekend next year and possibly beyond. For a change I am watching games and watching coaches and teams make mistakes the Bills would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: FIFY You're probably right about the two games, but surely you see we need more than that to take it to the next level where we can beat Chargers, N'Orleans, Pitt and Philly, compete with NE etc No argument here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Away from what? If it's championship contention, the answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I was happy with the team breaking the playoff drought, but they very definitely over-achieved. I love the culture that the coaching staff and front office are building, but living off turnovers is very unpredictable and unsustainable. I'm afraid that the team has to address quite a lot in order to build a consistent contender. If they can re-sign EJ Gaines, I think that the defensive secondary can be a building block to a very good defense. Still, I think the team needs 2 LBs, at least 1 DT and a DE that can provide some pass rush. On offense, they are going to need some help at OG, a speed WR and, of course, the ever-elusive QB. Ideally, I hope that they can get a decent QB prospect without trading up. If they can, then with their other 1 and 2 #2 picks, I'd like to think that they could find a good DT and LB. I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope that a very good pass rushing DE will be available to them in the draft. I would think that maybe they can get some role players for the D (maybe another LB and a veteran DT) in FA. Still, even if all of those things break right, they are still not guaranteed to even make the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. 20th against the pass 29th against the run. What is that good enough for, and what does that have to do with Tenn losing to the pats (by the same 21 points the Bills just lost to the by as well )? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. You can't take the Jags game as a measuring stick and then project into the future of where the Bills defense actually is. The game plan vs the Jags is not how you want to play defense but we had too or we actually would have gotten ran all over. It worked because Bortles was off the money most of the day and it was the gamble we took. But against a halfway accurate passer, there is no way we could have played defense that way. Playing defense that way opens up a lot of other things and Bortles exposed the problems with that by just running. That's one of the weaknesses, but a halfway accurate passer would have carved the defense up on the Play Action passes. So when thinking about next year's opponents you cannot take that game and say the defense is good enough. There's no way we are playing Brady like that twice, Rogers, Mariota, Rivers, Stafford, Watson and going to replicate that success. The Jags game was about game plan vs that specific opponent only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young34 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 84% of NFL Championships are won by teams with a top 10 defense, so no. We need to improve the defense to get there statistically, as well as the O. http://freakonomics.com/2012/01/20/does-defense-really-win-championships/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, twoandfourteen said: Interesting take. With even below-average QB play this season, the Bills probably win 2 more games and would still be playing this weekend. Yes, I agree with Dalton, Smith, Bridgewater, (fill in with 20 other names), we would've played one more game, and lost to Brady (unless the fill in name was Brees, Ben, Ryan, Rivers, Cousins, Newton, Wilson, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, Ga boy said: Yes, I agree with Dalton, Smith, Bridgewater, (fill in with 20 other names), we would've played one more game, and lost to Brady (unless the fill in name was Brees, Ben, Ryan, Rivers, Cousins, Newton, Wilson, etc). Yep. I would have been ok with that result, too. Your second point is why I am all-in on trading whatever it takes to swing for a guy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 16th scoring defense. A more efficent offense would improve the defense aswell. Bigger picture for me is that the team actually looks equipped to find and or develop a qb. This is not cleveland or a complete rebuild. This team reminds be a little bit of the steelers before Roethlisberger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 A lot more than a QB away. The roster definitely 'over-performed'. We need plenty of upgrades, and plenty of guys will need to be replaced, who will not return, for a variety of reasons. If Kyle Williams retires, we'll need 2 DTs. We already probably need 2 LBers, and a pass rusher. We'll also need at least one WR, a QB, O-Line. Probably a CB or maybe two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Agree with those who have us more than a QB away. Shady demonstrated with the injury he almost miraculously recovered from how thin we are at RB. The luck we had this year with a 30+ year old surviving virtually the whole season we can't count on this luck. We not only need the best shot we can have at a replacement at RB but also a late choice of FA just in case. Add this to the starter needs Promo listed above and I'm a lot more interested in finding an affordable bridge QB who can start and play immediately than spending draft picks we need to play than trading up for a potential franchise QB who almost certainly will not produce for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Mat68 said: It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. Bills D is going to go through a major overhaul this offseason so no way to know what they will be. McDermott seems to have D figured out so I think they can still be good, but: P Brown, K Williams, Shaq Lawson, A Washington, EJ Gaines, J Hughes, could all be gone. Lorax may change to DE. They will need at least two new starting LB's and maybe all of the front 4 will be different. The O is a mess. This team is a rebuild now on both sides of the ball and some coaching. Getting to playoffs next year will mean they hit on all the new moves to come and would be an amazing feat. This buildup this offseason I am very much looking forward to. It should be fun. I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Some us addition by subtraction. I expect gaines back. Probably not brown. Last year the defense was old and slow. The team had a horrible cap situation and not many picks. There is a good amount of cap space and expect faster linebakers and a better qb. That happens buffalo is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: No. We are a QB, two WR, backup RB, backup tackle, two pass rushers and two linebackers away. That would be ideal, but I think with a decent QB, another offensive weapon, a speedy linebacker, and a good pass rusher we're as good as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 QB, a WR, DT, ILB, RT, RG and backup RB. To be honest with the Cap space we have and a huge draft with 4 picks in 2 rounds we can fill This. We need a better QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Mat68 said: It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. Absolutely, you can mask many positions in the NFL but QB isn't one of them, well I guess running the ball almost all the time is masking it but you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Mat68 said: It is only the first half, but after Tennessee getting smacked by NE and Jacksonville running all over Pittsburgh my conclusion is that Buffalo's defense is good enough. Give Mcdermott and that defense a 21st century offense and Buffalo can become one of the best teams in the conference quickly. I do not recall an NFL season, ever, where I was this unimpressed by virtually everyone in the playoffs. It seems wide open right now. I agree, a decent QB plus what the Bills have right now could very possibly have beaten any AFC playoff team, in any stadium, barring New England. I.E., give us a decent QB and get us in the playoffs, and then work the brackets so we don't have to play NE until the AFC Championship game...getting to that game has never looked easier than right now. 11 hours ago, Mat68 said: Buffalo has a fair amount of cap space and loads of draft picks. The team is not without faults but a Qb with potential and at minimum average play should allow Buffalo to play in this weekend next year and possibly beyond. For a change I am watching games and watching coaches and teams make mistakes the Bills would not. Agreed; the Falcons/Eagles game was a case of both teams seemingly perfectly happy to LOSE...sloppy play, penalties, mistakes...neither put in a "playoff performance." I usually expect to watch playoff football being played a level or 2 beyond what the Bills are capable of; I don't see that this year so much. I think the Patriots remain a step beyond, but everyone else seems beatable and they just don't scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 If we can get a QB, a QB of the defense like Roquan Smith or Tegray Scales, an OLB like Bradham, and keep Gaines. Then use our other picks to find a pass rusher, a couple of DT's to clog the middle, better RB depth, an OL starter or two, and we are in business. This scouting department better be on top of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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