Magox Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Big shout out to Gaines and Hughes this past week as they were 2 of the top defensive players according to their rankings this weekend. Quote EDGE Jerry Hughes, Buffalo Bills, 95.0 overall grade The Buffalo Bills sealed a dramatic return to the postseason on Sunday, and edge defender Jerry Hughes was disruptive as a pass-rusher, despite not registering a sack. From 32 pass-rushing attempts, Hughes racked up seven hurries, good for a 16.4 pass-rushing productivity rating. CB E.J. Gaines, Buffalo Bills, 92.0 overall grade Despite being targeted six times in coverage, Bills cornerback E.J. Gaines had an impressive day in coverage. Allowing just four receptions for 16 yards, on 48 snaps in coverage, he finished the day having allowed just 0.33 yards per coverage snap. Even though Hughes missed a couple sacks he was constantly getting pressure and in the backfield of the Dolphins. This is the Hughes we need to see more often. Gaines, another fantastic performance. Hopefully we sign him for a multi year contract, it would be nice to have our top 4 DB's in place for the next 4 years. Edited January 2, 2018 by Magox 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Jerry was all over the place this week. Bringing pressure almost every time, flying around and making tackles downfield. Love that guy. He would sure benefit from another premier edge rusher on the other side again, but he is still doing a great job of collapsing he pocket and not letting QBs get comfortable even though the sacks have dwindled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Jerry played well. Yet a few here were calling him out for missed tackles. to both guys on a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Glad Gaines came through unscathed. Same with Benjamin. Sucks about Shady, although I fully expect him to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just think we got Gaines AND a pick for Samantha Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Just think we got Gaines AND a pick for Samantha Watkins The teeth gnashing over that trade reached apoplectic levels. Turns out that we ended up making out big on that trade. We received a more valuable player for us in Gaines than Sammy was for the Rams, a second rounder and probably some cap savings to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Really hope we re-sign Gaines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, WMDman said: Really hope we re-sign Gaines A contract with lots of incentives and contingencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 They need to keep the secondary intact......and add a cover linebacker, a DT that can actually stop the run and push the pocket, and a pass rusher to bookend with Jerry...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hughes should of had a good game...wasnt he going up against a scrub...plus the missed tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 hours ago, DC Greg said: Jerry was all over the place this week. Bringing pressure almost every time, flying around and making tackles downfield. Love that guy. He would sure benefit from another premier edge rusher on the other side again, but he is still doing a great job of collapsing he pocket and not letting QBs get comfortable even though the sacks have dwindled. I think Lawson will be back better next year and will provide a good pass rush. The main concern is the ability to rush from the middle. We lost it when Dareus stopped playing for the BIlls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 10 hours ago, ganesh said: I think Lawson will be back better next year and will provide a good pass rush. The main concern is the ability to rush from the middle. We lost it when Dareus stopped playing for the BIlls. True, though Dareus wasn't generating much pressure before we left. A lot of that is due to the fact that McD/Frazier don't blitz very often. It was easy to have him double teamed on any given pass play. It would be good to have a monster NT that can generate pressure, but a good linebacker who can blitz up the middle (if we ever called it) could also accomplish that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hughes has had a very good but very quiet season. He is a better player than what his stats reflect. 11 hours ago, ganesh said: I think Lawson will be back better next year and will provide a good pass rush. The main concern is the ability to rush from the middle. We lost it when Dareus stopped playing for the BIlls. Lawson is known for run setting not pass rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I thought Hughes had a good game besides the fact that he couldn't wrap up the QB. He went for the football twice instead of wrapping up the QB. Gaines was doing his thing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Get another pass rusher in the other end spot and Hughes will again be a 9-10 sack guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: I thought Hughes had a good game besides the fact that he couldn't wrap up the QB. He went for the football twice instead of wrapping up the QB. Gaines was doing his thing again Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Hughes has had a very good but very quiet season. He is a better player than what his stats reflect. Agreed. The big sack numbers aren't there, but he is always collapsing the pocket from his side. That still squeezes the quarterback and can force rushed, inaccurate throws or flush him. I think the lack of another top pass rusher on the other side has enabled teams to send the RB help Jerry's way more often than not, which is partially a reason for the drop off in sacks. They used to send the RB to Mario all the time and left Jerry 1:1 when he had his biggest years. Also, Frazier doesn't blitz much or run a lot of stunts with the DEs. I notice Kyle stunting a lot on the inside, but you don't see Jerry coming all the way around into the A/B gaps. I remember seeing that a lot more in the past. It may not be great with current personal, as Dareus was fast enough to stunt to the outside and replace Hughes when he was here. Maybe they don't feel great about our current DTs getting around in time to have contain on those type of stunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Lawson is known for run setting not pass rushing. Despite that, he was leading the team in sacks before his injury. He can get you 6-8 sacks/year. Hughes needed to be the double digit sacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Hughes has had a very good but very quiet season. He is a better player than what his stats reflect. Lawson is known for run setting not pass rushing. Lawson would be better served getting up to 295 lbs and playing DT. We need to sign Gaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 13 hours ago, John from Hemet said: They need to keep the secondary intact......and add a cover linebacker, a DT that can actually stop the run and push the pocket, and a pass rusher to bookend with Jerry...... We had that DT. Unfortunately, he turned out to be an undisciplined immensely talented player who wore out his welcome with the new staff at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 13 hours ago, John from Hemet said: They need to keep the secondary intact......and add a cover linebacker, a DT that can actually stop the run and push the pocket, and a pass rusher to bookend with Jerry...... Agreed, but we need to resign Gaines AND acquire another color corner for the slot. Johnson, also a FA played ok at times and but picked on often as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Show Gaines the money and get him his own personal trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 16 hours ago, Magox said: Big shout out to Gaines and Hughes this past week as they were 2 of the top defensive players according to their rankings this weekend. Even though Hughes missed a couple sacks he was constantly getting pressure and in the backfield of the Dolphins. This is the Hughes we need to see more often. Gaines, another fantastic performance. Hopefully we sign him for a multi year contract, it would be nice to have our top 4 DB's in place for the next 4 years. Ya they can’t let Gaines walk. He’s such a difference maker when healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 51 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Ya they can’t let Gaines walk. He’s such a difference maker when healthy When healthy is the key. Can't pay him mad money and have him miss a third of the season again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: When healthy is the key. Can't pay him mad money and have him miss a third of the season again. Agreed. But I still think it’s worth the risk to sign him. The numbers with him in vs. Without are just crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: When healthy is the key. Can't pay him mad money and have him miss a third of the season again. I think you can risk around $8m a year for a proven player such as Gaines. Now risking $13m+ for an inconsistent yet highly talented WR is a different matter. That trade from Beane was a big time for the Bills. What a trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Magox said: I think you can risk around $8m a year for a proven player such as Gaines. Now risking $13m+ for an inconsistent yet highly talented WR is a different matter. That trade from Beane was a big time for the Bills. What a trade! I'd love to keep him. Even if injuries are a concern. I just hope he doesn't want a ton of money. And yes, what a trade. An excellent CB plus a 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I think Gaines is going to be get a big payday from somebody in the offseason regardless of his injury issues with us this year. And that's why I don't think we resign him because another team will be stupid enough to throw big money his way and disregard the time he missed this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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