DOJ Appoints Robert Mueller as Special Counsel - Jerome Corsi Rejects Plea Deal

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's only proof of a quid pro quo if you invent or ignore the actual policies enacted against Putin since Trump took over. If Trump is a Putin agent, he's a terrible one. 

 

You've got nothing. After two years, nothing. 

We are living it. You have said, as have others on this board, the Putin wanted to create chaos. Trade wars we didn't need, government shut down, allies driven away, sanctions relief attempted, isolationism policies actually being pushed, ya, nothing. Ok. 

 

Trump was pursing a multi million dollar deal in Russia while Russia was helping him, and he praised Putin, has tried to help him financially by trying (Unsuccessfully) to lift sanctions. 

 

He really is just a corrupt, race baiting, puppet 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

We are living it. You have said, as have others on this board, the Putin wanted to create chaos. Trade wars we didn't need, government shut down, allies driven away, sanctions relief attempted, isolationism policies actually being pushed, ya, nothing. Ok. 

 

Trump was pursing a multi million dollar deal in Russia while Russia was helping him, and he praised Putin, has tried to help him financially by trying (Unsuccessfully) to lift sanctions. 

 

He really is just a corrupt, race baiting, puppet 

 

The US has become an energy exporter - that harms Russia directly. 

The US armed the Ukrainians - that harms Russia's geopolitical goals directly. 

The US decimated 300+ Russian mercenaries in Syria - that harms Russia directly. 

The US has imposed the harshest sanctions in history on Putin and his cronies - that harms Putin's pocket book directly. 

The US has strengthened it's relationship with Poland and (likely) will be moving major NATO forces there - which harms Putin's geopolitical strategy directly. 

The US has brought the DPRK to the table for negotiations - that takes away a Russian client state. 

The US has brought the Mullahs to their knees - that weakens Russia's geopolitical aims and allies significantly in the ME. 

 

... You're wrong. 

 

Gleefully wrong. 

 

As usual.

[Foxx]

for the record here. i am of the belief that Russia is not the boogeyman that the propaganda press and the elite would like everyone to believe they are.

[Tiberius]

19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The US has become an energy exporter - that harms Russia directly. (That totally pre-dates Trump in office) 

The US armed the Ukrainians - that harms Russia's geopolitical goals directly. ($41.5 Million. That's it) 

The US decimated 300+ Russian mercenaries in Syria - that harms Russia directly. (Our military defended itself, as it always does) 

The US has imposed the harshest sanctions in history on Putin and his cronies - that harms Putin's pocket book directly. (Thank you congress!) 

The US has strengthened it's relationship with Poland and (likely) will be moving major NATO forces there - which harms Putin's geopolitical strategy directly. (Poland is moving in an autocratic direction) 

The US has brought the DPRK to the table for negotiations - that takes away a Russian client state. (LOL!! They are de-nuclearized! Phony baloney) 

The US has brought the Mullahs to their knees - that weakens Russia's geopolitical aims and allies significantly in the ME. (ROTFLMAO!!!) 

 

... You're wrong. 

 

Gleefully wrong. (you are quoting third thing now! Gawd! Puke!!) 

 

As usual.

 

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The US has imposed the harshest sanctions in history on Putin and his cronies - that harms Putin's pocket book directly. (Thank you congress!) 

 

Make a note, Tibs praised Congressional Republicans

 

or did Obama make that happen too?

[Deranged Rhino]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/baker-testimony-reveals-perkins-coie-lawyer-provided-fbi-with-information-on-alfa-bank-allegations_2773855.html

[Foxx]

https://twitter.com/IncarnatedET/status/1087532675802382336

 

[Q-baby!]

25 minutes ago, Foxx said:

https://twitter.com/IncarnatedET/status/1087532675802382336

 

What if he’s not! ???. You guys are nutbars! Of course, it’s all part of the plan! Whatever! 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

4 hours ago, Foxx said:

https://twitter.com/IncarnatedET/status/1087532675802382336

 

Tucker is working for Trump, we know that 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[keepthefaith]

6 hours ago, Foxx said:

https://twitter.com/IncarnatedET/status/1087532675802382336

 

 

I don't buy it.  Mueller's team is filled with Trump haters. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, keepthefaith said:

 

I don't buy it.  Mueller's team is filled with Trump haters. 

 

Which is why Mueller picked them (according to the logic of this theory, which I first proposed almost two years ago now). The idea being Mueller put all the potential problems onto his team to keep them in one place, rather than slipping into the ether of the bureaucracy where they could cause other problems. The team believes their job is to collect any and all evidence that would expose the palace coup in order to hide it, while fanning the flames of the "Trump/Russia" delusion through leaks to their media cut outs. Meanwhile, Mueller who they think is on their team, is watching them the whole time and logging the crimes/violations/and corners cut. 

 

Meanwhile, everyone on the left and in the media marries themselves to Mueller and his team. Hitching their careers to its outcome, going to great lengths to "protect Mueller's work"... not knowing they're digging their own graves. When the dust settles, and Mueller finishes his probe and it exonerates Trump from any Trump/Russia collusion/conspiracy nonsense, there's no where for the media or the left to spin it. After all, they spent two years building Mueller up as unimpeachable.

 

Put it another way... Mueller stacked the deck with partisans on his team. He's, above all else, a smart man. He would know back then doing that would immediately open his probe and team up to charges of being tilted. Perhaps he's cocky/arrogant enough to think he could do that and it wouldn't matter... or perhaps he's even more shrewd than others have given him credit for.  

[Foxx]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Which is why Mueller picked them (according to the logic of this theory, which I first proposed almost two years ago now). The idea being Mueller put all the potential problems onto his team to keep them in one place, rather than slipping into the ether of the bureaucracy where they could cause other problems. The team believes their job is to collect any and all evidence that would expose the palace coup in order to hide it, while fanning the flames of the "Trump/Russia" delusion through leaks to their media cut outs. Meanwhile, Mueller who they think is on their team, is watching them the whole time and logging the crimes/violations/and corners cut. 

 

Meanwhile, everyone on the left and in the media marries themselves to Mueller and his team. Hitching their careers to its outcome, going to great lengths to "protect Mueller's work"... not knowing they're digging their own graves. When the dust settles, and Mueller finishes his probe and it exonerates Trump from any Trump/Russia collusion/conspiracy nonsense, there's no where for the media or the left to spin it. After all, they spent two years building Mueller up as unimpeachable.

 

Put it another way... Mueller stacked the deck with partisans on his team. He's, above all else, a smart man. He would know back then doing that would immediately open his probe and team up to charges of being tilted. Perhaps he's cocky/arrogant enough to think he could do that and it wouldn't matter... or perhaps he's even more shrewd than others have given him credit for.  

i posted that tweet just because of your theory. i hope and pray that you (and Tucker) are correct. if so it would go down in the annals of history as simply the greatest trolling ever in the history of trolling. that and it just might forestall the coming shooting war and put all those evil ***** away.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Foxx said:

i posted that tweet just because of your theory. i hope and pray that you (and Tucker) are correct. if so it would go down in the annals of history as simply the greatest trolling ever in the history of trolling. that and it just might forestall the coming shooting war and put all those evil ***** away.

 

 

 

And for the record, I fully admit and acknowledge this is a fringe idea and way out there for a lot of people. There's a lot of meat to support it, but also a lot of meat to dispute it. Could be wrong here... but I still haven't seen enough to move me off that position just yet.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

More: 

 

[keepthefaith]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Which is why Mueller picked them (according to the logic of this theory, which I first proposed almost two years ago now). The idea being Mueller put all the potential problems onto his team to keep them in one place, rather than slipping into the ether of the bureaucracy where they could cause other problems. The team believes their job is to collect any and all evidence that would expose the palace coup in order to hide it, while fanning the flames of the "Trump/Russia" delusion through leaks to their media cut outs. Meanwhile, Mueller who they think is on their team, is watching them the whole time and logging the crimes/violations/and corners cut. 

 

Meanwhile, everyone on the left and in the media marries themselves to Mueller and his team. Hitching their careers to its outcome, going to great lengths to "protect Mueller's work"... not knowing they're digging their own graves. When the dust settles, and Mueller finishes his probe and it exonerates Trump from any Trump/Russia collusion/conspiracy nonsense, there's no where for the media or the left to spin it. After all, they spent two years building Mueller up as unimpeachable.

 

Put it another way... Mueller stacked the deck with partisans on his team. He's, above all else, a smart man. He would know back then doing that would immediately open his probe and team up to charges of being tilted. Perhaps he's cocky/arrogant enough to think he could do that and it wouldn't matter... or perhaps he's even more shrewd than others have given him credit for.  

 

Greatly respect your work/posts on all of this.  On this particular theory though, I just don't see it.  Mueller is part of the grand IC establishment and would have to turn on many of his "friends" if this were the case.  That and he's gone hard after people in Trump's orbit on some ticky tack stuff which to me says he's trying hard to find or create a crime.  I'd love to be wrong but I don't see people with long government service having Trump's back even if it is legally just.  Trump is truly a square peg surrounded by round holes with no path out except for when the door opens in 2020. 

 

Edited January 22, 2019 by keepthefaith

[Foxx]

9 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Greatly respect your work/posts on all of this.  On this particular theory though, I just don't see it.  Mueller is part of the grand IC establishment and would have to turn on many of his "friends" if this were the case.  That and he's gone hard after people in Trump's orbit on some ticky tack stuff which to me says he's trying hard to find or create a crime.  I'd love to be wrong but I don't see people with long government service having Trump's back even if it is legally just.  Trump is truly a square peg surrounded by holes with no path out except for when the door opens in 2020. 

there is also the precedent setting tack.

Edited January 22, 2019 by Foxx

[TakeYouToTasker]

39 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Greatly respect your work/posts on all of this.  On this particular theory though, I just don't see it.  Mueller is part of the grand IC establishment and would have to turn on many of his "friends" if this were the case.  That and he's gone hard after people in Trump's orbit on some ticky tack stuff which to me says he's trying hard to find or create a crime.  I'd love to be wrong but I don't see people with long government service having Trump's back even if it is legally just.  Trump is truly a square peg surrounded by round holes with no path out except for when the door opens in 2020. 

 

I've come around to Greg's way of thinking on this.

 

Mueller may well be working for Trump, but as he uncovers actual incidents of criminality, he can't just take a pass on them.  It also has the benefit of taking the establishment's eye off the ball.

[snafu]

Mueller isn't going to pull an "Aha!" moment and perp-walk his own team.

It would be really cool to see, but it isn't happening.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, snafu said:

Mueller isn't going to pull an "Aha!" moment and perp-walk his own team.

It would be really cool to see, but it isn't happening.

 

 

That's not what I'm expecting for clarity. 

 

Mueller's job (per this theory) is to keep the plotters together chasing their tail while he watches, and to ultimately write a report that clears Trump of any Russian Conspiracy/Collusion nonsense.

 

Any charges brought or perp walks done will be done by the DOJ and Barr, based on the conduct of the investigators. This is why the leak investigation instigated by Sessions is so key. We've already seen it nab several of Mueller's team (Strzok/Page). 

 

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(Jeff scooped Solomon - but it's still worth the read)

[Foxx]

9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

... Any charges brought or perp walks done will be done by the DOJ and Barr, based on the conduct of the investigators. This is why the leak investigation instigated by Sessions is so key. We've already seen it nab several of Mueller's team (Strzok/Page). ...

 

ya know, this is a really interesting point and one that may be lost in the shuffle but it may be right over the target.

 

ask yourself (not you, you, a generalization you) why did Mueller react so quickly to the Buzzfeed story, what the implication of a leak originating from his team would mean.

 

the intrigue rivals a John Grisham novel.

Edited January 22, 2019 by Foxx

[snafu]

14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Mueller's job (per this theory) is to keep the plotters together chasing their tail while he watches, and to ultimately write a report that clears Trump of any Russian Conspiracy/Collusion nonsense.

 

Any charges brought or perp walks done will be done by the DOJ and Barr, based on the conduct of the investigators. This is why the leak investigation instigated by Sessions is so key. We've already seen it nab several of Mueller's team (Strzok/Page). 

 

The first sentence, I can see.  

The second sentence, I can't.

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Foxx said:

ya know, this is a really interesting point and one that may be lost in the shuffle but it may be right over the target.

 

ask yourself (not you, you, a generalization you) why did Mueller react so quickly to the Buzzfeed story, what the implication of a leak originating from his team would mean.

 

the intrigue rivals a John Grisham novel.

 

The Buzzfeed article is B.S. and is presented as coming directly from Mueller's people.  Not much more to read into it than that.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

(Jeff scooped Solomon - but it's still worth the read)

 

Just putting some key excerpts here: 

 

The tsunami began when former MI6 agent Steele first approached an FBI supervisor, his handler in an earlier criminal case, in London. That approach remarkably occurred on July 5, 2016, the same day then-FBI Director James Comey announced he would not pursue criminal chargesagainst Clinton for mishandling classified emails on a private server.

 

If ever there were a day for the Clinton campaign to want to change the public narrative, it was July 5, 2016.

 

(snip: The State Dept is where the dirtiest swamp creatures lurk)

 

Then-senior State Department official Jonathan Winer, who worked for then-Secretary John Kerry, wrote that Steele first approached him in summer with his Trump research, and then met again with him in September. Winer consulted his boss, Assistant Secretary for Eurasia Affairs Victoria Nuland, who said she first learned of Steele’s allegations in late July and urged Winer to send it to the FBI.

 

(If you need further intrigue, Winer worked from 2008 to 2013 for the lobbying and public relations firm APCO Worldwide, the same firm that was a contractor for both the Clinton Global Initiative and Russia’s main nuclear fuel company that won big decisions from the Obama administration.)

 

(snip: As "honest" as Ohr's recent testimony was about what he told the FBI, he did NOT tell them about his wife's Fusion connection making this breakfast even MORE damning)

 

But Steele was hardly done. He reached out to his longtime Justice Department contact, Bruce Ohr, then a deputy to Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. Steele had breakfast July 30, 2016, with Ohr and his wife, Nellie, to discuss the Russia-Trump dirt.

 

(To thicken the plot, you should know that Nellie Ohr was a Russia expert working at the time for the same Fusion GPS firm that hired Steele and was hired by the Clinton campaign through Sussmann’s Perkins Coie.)

 

(snip: Enter Corn, Mother Jones, and Buzzfeed)

 

By mid-September — less than a month before Election Day — there likely was agitation inside the Clinton machine: After so many overtures to the FBI, there was no visible sign of an investigation.

 

Simpson and Steele began briefing reporters with the hope of getting the word out. It is taboo for an FBI source such as Steele to talk to the media about his work. Yet, he took the risk, eventually getting fired for it, according to FBI documents.

 

(snip: A hail mary - why? Because Adm Rogers 302 exposed Fusion GPS as being one of the subcontractors illegally accessing 702 data without proper oversight or warrants - Clinton was not only his client, she was his partner along with the Obama administration in an illegal spying operation waged on their political opposition FOR YEARS. Her win would assure nothing came of Roger's audit...)

 

Ohr, through his contacts with Steele and Simpson, also knew the media had been contacted. In handwritten notes from late 2016, Ohr quoted Simpson as saying his outreach to reporters was a “Hail Mary attempt” to sway voters.

 

(snip: noting here that Solomon is omitting No name's role which was huge. He omits it because people don't associate No Name with the Clintons because he was an R... but they're both uniparty cabal.) 

The next and final overture came from one of Clinton’s top acolytes in Congress.

 

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Yup. 

 

 

(That's a felony with a precedent now thanks to Wolfe/McCabe/and soon Comey)

[njbuff]

Is this thing going to drag till the 2020 election?

 

What will the cost be of investigating this for another 20 months............ 75 billion?

[Hedge]

On 1/21/2019 at 1:15 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/baker-testimony-reveals-perkins-coie-lawyer-provided-fbi-with-information-on-alfa-bank-allegations_2773855.html

 

Perkins-Coie, yet again. This time with ties to human/sex trafficking.

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

9 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

Perkins-Coie, yet again. This time with ties to human/sex trafficking.

 

 

 

 

Throw this in the deep state thread too if you don't mind. I've been trying to dig into it a bit more since it broke...

[Hedge]

12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Throw this in the deep state thread too if you don't mind. I've been trying to dig into it a bit more since it broke...

 

[4merper4mer]

17 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

And for the record, I fully admit and acknowledge this is a fringe idea and way out there for a lot of people. There's a lot of meat to support it, but also a lot of meat to dispute it. Could be wrong here... but I still haven't seen enough to move me off that position just yet.

I didn't believe you on this but I'm coming around.  Also I just saw a UFO getting set to attack but luckily it was shot down by a unicorn shooting lollipops out of its butt.  

[Deranged Rhino]

I should post this in the media thread but it's so on point for this subject and something I've stressed since page 1: 

 

 

The swings in this story, the smoking guns which turned out to be duds, they all should be remembered for what they were: attempts to lie and manipulate you specifically about this subject. 

 

If they're so eager to lie and manipulate you - when the case, as they've claimed for two years, is so "obvious" and overflowing with "evidence" of Trump/Russia conspiracy - what does that say about how they REALLY feel about the validity of their position? 

 

It was always a coup. Always. 

[DC Tom]

5 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I didn't believe you on this but I'm coming around.  Also I just saw a UFO getting set to attack but luckily it was shot down by a unicorn shooting lollipops out of its butt.  

 

Those radar-guided lollipops, or infrared?

[B-Man]

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Keep denying, Adam.

 

 

Edited January 23, 2019 by Deranged Rhino

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Nanker]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I didn't believe you on this but I'm coming around.  Also I just saw a UFO getting set to attack but luckily it was shot down by a unicorn shooting lollipops out of its butt.  

So you saw it too!

[4merper4mer]

11 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Those radar-guided lollipops, or infrared?

There were all kinds.  Tootsie Pops, Charms, Whirlies, Jolly Rancher, Dum Dum....they all seemed guided by the unicorn butt.  Their strange shapes seemed to throw the unicorn off his game or maybe the UFO had shields.  It was looking grim there for a minute.  

 

The unicorn was getting mad and looked like he wanted to yell.  He nodded at me and I instinctively knew to throw him a packet of silica gel.  He ate it, turned to the UFO, glared and said "Hey you alien ***holes UP YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".  Then he changed his tactics, and went with a direct weapon:

 

 

It was game over at that point.

Edited January 24, 2019 by 4merper4mer

[Tiberius]

This was a great interview last night with four people that have been interviewed by Trump. Very interesting take on much of this and how some are turning on each other and Roger Stone. Carter Page just comes across as incredibly naive 

 

 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

This was a great interview last night with four people that have been interviewed by Trump. Very interesting take on much of this and how some are turning on each other and Roger Stone. Carter Page just comes across as incredibly naive 

 

 

Did you listen to the entire segment? When did Trump interview these people? Just what did Carter Page have to say that was so incredibly naïve?

[Tiberius]

23 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Did you listen to the entire segment? When did Trump interview these people? Just what did Carter Page have to say that was so incredibly naïve?

I meant Mueller interviewed them. 

 

Carter Page was naive about how the FBI agents treated him