LI_Bills Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Isn't it possible/ likely, that they had this particular combo in mind for some time, but they had to get the coach first to allow him time to get started before the draft? They may have wanted Beane with him all along but had to wait to pull the trigger until after the draft? Could be, I try to stay away from speculation (it's difficult!) and comment on what is. They appear to be tied at the hip now. I think that's a good thing given my concern about the reporting structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 In my opinion the best way to rebuild is after bottoming out. Got to disagree there. I think it happened in a few instances when Peyton Manning and the like were coming up in the draft but teams such as the Browns, Jags regularly bottom out but havent used it to leverage that in the drafts and climb their way to glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Kinda makes you wonder if Jim Overdorf's days are numbered. Beane handled contract negotiations in Carolina and that's supposed to be Overdorf's main job at OBD. Could another lifer be on his way out and OBD finally gets the much needed purge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 So if he doesn't draft a QB that is the NFL MVP is he a failure? Cam is OVERRATED had one good season and came back to earth. Once he pussed out on his fumble in the Super Bowl he lost the trust of his teammates and will continue to be an average QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 With that said, I'm in the camp that thinks it's odd they hired a rookie HC before they hired the GM. If you try to put together the pieces, it appears that Beane for GM was always McD's plan and likely discussed with the Pegulas at the time of the hire. McD wanted to use the 7-8 months of scouting to his advantage as it was valuable information and Whaley et al may have been perfectly good scouts. Once the draft was done, the rest of the plan was put in action with Whaley being fired and the new scouting season beginning with a new GM and scouts. Maybe I am reading the tea leaves but this seems plausible. If the above were true, I still think the Dawkins pick could be checked out for tampering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_Bills Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 So if he doesn't draft a QB that is the NFL MVP is he a failure? Quote of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Cam is OVERRATED had one good season and came back to earth. Once he pussed out on his fumble in the Super Bowl he lost the trust of his teammates and will continue to be an average QB. He's no John Skelton or Landry Jones. You are the best qb evaluator ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_Bills Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 If you try to put together the pieces, it appears that Beane for GM was always McD's plan and likely discussed with the Pegulas at the time of the hire. McD wanted to use the 7-8 months of scouting to his advantage as it was valuable information and Whaley et al may have been perfectly good scouts. Once the draft was done, the rest of the plan was put in action with Whaley being fired and the new scouting season beginning with a new GM and scouts. Maybe I am reading the tea leaves but this seems plausible. If the above were true, I still think the Dawkins pick could be checked out for tampering. Plausible. But I'm skeptical that McD had a master plan beyond becoming a HC. I'd be more inclined to guess that once he got his foot in the door things changed. Am I wrong to assume we could've shown Whaley the door along with Rex but retained the scouting staff until the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 "When they first bought the team, there was a strong argument to do exactly what the Pegulas have done this offseason: to scrub the building down in the attempt of ridding themselves of all the residue of mediocrity over the past 17 years. They let long-tenured people go behind the scenes, fired notable names, and then hired a head coach in Sean McDermott that they see as an idealistic person to be the face of a franchise." And I salute them for it! Thank you Pegs! Agreed, this is a great thing.The perception of the team is changing ... fwiw nothing will be the same. Some fans will resist that, others will welcome it. Some of the change will be a bit painful, but necessary.Yep! What Panthers' Ron Rivera, Marty Hurney said about Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/05/what_panthers_ron_rivera_marty_hurney_said_about_buffalo_bills_gm_brandon_beane.html Very positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Great, sure, whatever. Just get to work and make something happen on the field. That's the ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Two Brandon's? I bet one goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 so in 2 years when they are both gone because they are connected what then? McDermott seems to be calling all the shots.. Beane I have no clue what he is doing.. Lets hope this is not Chip Kelly 2.0 because if it is... we start all over in 2 years... UNLESS... we get a QB.. all this is about Franchise QB.. IF they prove to get there man next year.. and lets face facts its about next year... then they are golden.. If not? same thing 2-3 years from now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Got to disagree there. I think it happened in a few instances when Peyton Manning and the like were coming up in the draft but teams such as the Browns, Jags regularly bottom out but havent used it to leverage that in the drafts and climb their way to glory. Fan is right. If you look at the track record of NFL teams who have "bottomed out", it's at best a mixed bag. I think part of the problem is culture change - losing or not GAF about losing becomes a habit, just like anything else one keeps doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Why not? At this stage of the game, 17 years of absolute futility, I have no idea what a good GM for us would be. But then again, maybe I'm jaded by 17 years of absolute futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I think having 2 like minded individuals as a cohesive unit is a great thing, we obviously haven't had that which is why we are where we are, not sure if it will work but I love the direction, now hopefully they'll get time to not only find the right players for McDermott but also have to contend with the best HC/QB in all of football right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Anybody know if he's related to the Oakland A's Billy Beane?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 carolina bills.jpg Hahaha indeed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I tip my hat to the new Constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Then I pick up my guitar and play, Just like yesterday, Then I'll get on my knees and pray.. We don't get fooled again. Welcome to Buffalo, Mr Beane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Without sounding overly apathetic, does anyone care? To me this just confirms that McDermott is running the show. This guy has a similar vision but other than that I couldn't be more indifferent. I agree, for the most part, but am concerned about our near future scouting staff. DW notwithstanding, I felt Monos & Co. was an excellent group with continued continuity. Everyone was IN on the focus for the future. That takes time and the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I think Terry gave McD and Beane a clean slate. Hope they bring back some key scouts that were let go. I would even have kept Doug as a scout , he's still being paid I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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