Numark3 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Why do so many people on here think KC is so great? Smith is still the QB and MaHomes isn't close to playing - that was a reach. KC isn't that great of a team (trust me I live here), they loose in the playoffs because they get there on a very weak schedule and can't play with the big boys. Watch them have a letdown this year and that 1st will end up being 17th. They finally have a hard schedule this year. They are a prime team to fall off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Would love to see foster fall here and snag him at 27. If we get him and add a 1& 3 that would be awesome-- I'm skeptical but lots of folks saying he fall to end of 1 or early 2 this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 We got hosed...should've included a 2nd rounder this year. They'll be a guaranteed playoff team so maybe a 25-30 pick...Doug got jacked... Nope we got better value. And look at the Browns Texans trade.... No 3rd for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Look at the other trade. Also, there is the other issue of a truly elite cb and te being available.... in a deep CB and TE Draft, I hear ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Joe BannerVerified account @JoeBanner13 1m1 minute ago Houston about to make another big mistake at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Why do so many people on here think KC is so great? Smith is still the QB and MaHomes isn't close to playing - that was a reach. KC isn't that great of a team (trust me I live here), they loose in the playoffs because they get there on a very weak schedule and can't play with the big boys. Watch them have a letdown this year and that 1st will end up being 17th. They've gone 43-21 the last four years and have been 23-9 the last two in a strong division, talent wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 For those saying it's a bad trade, you're acting like the Bills are supposed to get a dozen extra picks for the trade down. Each spot in the draft has a point value and teams have to be able to come close to that point value to make a deal. You can't have a deal where one team has a point value of 1300 and they expect to get 5000 points in return. Get real people! We were a little behind by it.... But in a draft where 10 to the end of the round isn't as drastic as normal I'd venture that more specialized charts show the drop being less than normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Nope we got better value. And look at the Browns Texans trade.... No 3rd for them You're letting facts and rationality get in the way of a good crusade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Well, bearing in mind the return Cleveland got for that oicknit looks like we got a decent return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prop Joe Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Why do you say KC was desperate for QB. Never understand that. KC is smart, they realize qb's like Smith/Taylor/Tannenhill are limited and can only get you so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Would love to see foster fall here and snag him at 27. If we get him and add a 1& 3 that would be awesome-- I'm skeptical but lots of folks saying he fall to end of 1 or early 2 this week I worry far more about his injuries than character issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 This was a good trade down. I would have liked to see another pick somewhere added on for dropping all the way back to 27, but for a team rebuilding, this stocks some picks next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWOntarioBillsfan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Big fan of this move. Sent from my F3113 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Browns also get the Texans first rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Nope we got better value. And look at the Browns Texans trade.... No 3rd for them That trade didn't involve a 17-slot drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 and communicating to fan base they are mailing it in this year. and next year we get the chiefs 1st round pick...which will also be at 27 or so. i fart in the general direction of this move. Well I am sure you fan base - you and yourself - will enjoy breathing your vapors. Have a gas mask to make sure it does not get away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'm guessing that, because we're the Bills, Mahomes will be a future Hall of Famer. Other than that, it's a good trade on paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Hahahaha. People are hilarious. Folks, this is a really good move for the bills. Not everything they do sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 It feels like we should have gotten another 5th or something. Otherwise like the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I don't care what anybody says this was a terrible trade a late first-round pick next year and a late 3rd round pick this year for the number 10 spot insane You don't care about making sense... Ok, we get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I like the trade. Getting even better. Who's going to be there at 27? Trade again or trade before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 They finally have a hard schedule this year. They are a prime team to fall off They face a weak afc east next year outside of NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Brian Burke @bburkeESPN BUF really makes out. 1816 to 1300 JJ's with a 106% discount rate. 12 AV to 6 AV with an inf discount rate on my AV-based model (h/t @pfref) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 That trade didn't involve a 17-slot drop. So an extra 3rd for dropping 4 more spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 They face a weak afc east next year outside of NE. Bills always crush them, KC luck has run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 It feels like we should have gotten another 5th or something. Otherwise like the move. Yea... or get the 2 instead of 3 even if we toss in a later pick... But no gap that's going to keep me up at night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 They reached? How do you know that? Mahomes isn't ready to start and needs a lot of work, on top of that KC seems to think Alex Smith is great ... dude went an entire year without a TD to a WR. They score because of the D. Mahomes to me is just like Geno Smith and EJ — REACH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 That trade didn't involve a 17-slot drop. Not much dif in value per some of the scouting experts this year between 15 and 50. So 17 spots to 11 spots is not significantly different here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Brian Burke @bburkeESPN BUF really makes out. 1816 to 1300 JJ's with a 106% discount rate. 12 AV to 6 AV with an inf discount rate on my AV-based model (h/t @pfref) So if that is right, why do folks think we should have gotten more? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Lol Browns got better trade value than we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Lol Browns got better trade value than we did. Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yeah KC isn't that good of a team. I think the pick is anywhere 15-20 next year, right around same spot the Bills will be 10-20 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Look at the other trade. Also, there is the other issue of a truly elite cb and te being available. Yeah. Screw the value chart. Just another meaningless statistic without context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Writing off this season and getting ready for 2018 and beyond. Come back in 2018 since you have no hope, okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Lol Browns got better trade value than we did.They did not in any way,shape or form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Nope we got better value. And look at the Browns Texans trade.... No 3rd for them Idk, I'd rather have the Texans' 1st rounder next year than the Chiefs. Same for this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo044 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 So if that is right, why do folks think we should have gotten more? I'm confused. Because some people are only happy if they're b*tching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 not as bad as that lol. we also get this year's 27:) Well CRAP. NFL.com was reporting initially it was KC's 1st and 3rd in 2018 only! idiots! That feels better still does not seem like a great deal honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Mahomes isn't ready to start and needs a lot of work, on top of that KC seems to think Alex Smith is great ... dude went an entire year without a TD to a WR. They score because of the D. Mahomes to me is just like Geno Smith and EJ REACH. Again, 43-21 in the last 4 years with smith and 23-9 in the last 2. In smith's last two seasons with sf, the team went 17-3. Edited April 28, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Man Texans just keep drafting QBs like there's no tomorrow. Yet they keep getting good players elsewhere. That's a great scouting department. EXCEPT in scouting QBs LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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