Rico Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Doug Whaley is a clown.Yes indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â Ok, I can't believe i am spending so much time on this, but here goes. Â Let's assume that JWill replicates his YPC average from 2016 (probably unlikely given he's going to be a year further from his injury and in his sophomore year). Then let's assume he get's the same amount of carries that MG got last year. The different in yards would be about 200 yards over the course of the year. Spread that out over 16 games and it's 13 yards a game less that we get from the RB position with JWill, assuming worst case scenario (that JWill doesn't progress at all and MG would have stayed the same). Â You're going to say, what about TDs. I would submit that TDs are more of a fantasy football metric in terms of player evaluation. In other words, if JWill is put in on the goal line, he gets some TDs. MG was a nice change of pace back for McCoy, and Williams is not the same talent. This is a loss. The running game was the Bills main strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 you don't say... personally I hope we can improve on themme too. Theoretically, if we draft a wide receiver with our first pick, Watkins becomes our number two receiver, so I guess that is an upgrade over Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 We'd have to hit on more players in a single draft than we have in the last four years to make that a reality. Â Â Ditto. Sal M had a column today on how the Bills have no players on the roster from the 2013 draft. That is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â Whaley gets late 5th rounder for productive short yardage, goaline back and elite backup to a 29 year old with ton of mileage. Â Whaley trades early 4th round pick for fumbling bust Bryce Brown.... Â Yeah Whaley is a genius. Â I hate that it's harder for me to dislike your comments just because your SN and avatar may the the greatest thing in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â Ok, I can't believe i am spending so much time on this, but here goes. Â Let's assume that JWill replicates his YPC average from 2016 (probably unlikely given he's going to be a year further from his injury and in his sophomore year). Then let's assume he get's the same amount of carries that MG got last year. The different in yards would be about 200 yards over the course of the year. Spread that out over 16 games and it's 13 yards a game less that we get from the RB position with JWill, assuming worst case scenario (that JWill doesn't progress at all and MG would have stayed the same). Â You're going to say, what about TDs. I would submit that TDs are more of a fantasy football metric in terms of player evaluation. In other words, if JWill is put in on the goal line, he gets some TDs. but but Patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 yes, but for less money. That's how the NFL works in the salary cap era. What an idiot Skurski is. So the Bills should retain all their FA's and pay them top salaries . Then draft backups at other positions until they're ready to start. Perhaps that worked, prior to around 1993. Skurski, living in the past.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Bills recent 5th round picks all say hi  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 MG was a nice change of pace back for McCoy, and Williams is not the same talent. This is a loss. The running game was the Bills main strength. Â You honestly do not know that. You have no idea. You are speculating. Which is fine, but just acknowledge it. Â JWill was a more "talented" prospect coming out of college than MG, according to their pre-draft write-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 What an idiot Skurski is. So the Bills should retain all their FA's and pay them top salaries . Then draft backups at other positions until they're ready to start. Perhaps that worked, prior to around 1993. Skurski, living in the past.... You mean idiots are not the organization that has missed the playoffs for 17 straight years, probably heading for 18? No one models their organization after OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â I might also add.....Jonathan Wiilliams....the jury is frankly still out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 but but Patriots That's what is causing all this craziness. It's so frustrating to read. Â I liked MG, I really did. But not losing any sleep over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 @chrisbrownbills Just an interesting note. #Bills get pick No. 163 overall from Pats for Gillislee. Gillislee pick No. 164 by Miami in 2013 draft. a.d when will he complete the AFC East tour and join the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â To be fair, the Bills are are really getting an early 6th round pick (applying some basic math here) at #163. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Gillislee, 26, was the Bills' No. 2 running back last season behind LeSean McCoy, rushing 101 times for 577 yards and eight touchdowns. Among NFL running backs with a qualifying number of carries, Gillislee led the league in yards per rush (5.71), rushes per touchdown (12.6), first-down rate on rushes (38.6 percent) and third-down conversion rate on rushes (75 percent). Â a 5th round pick should replace that pretty easily I would think. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â You honestly do not know that. You have no idea. You are speculating. Which is fine, but just acknowledge it. Â JWill was a more "talented" prospect coming out of college than MG, according to their pre-draft write-ups. And from their body of work in the NFL in Buffalo, I'd say MG is the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â Ok, I can't believe i am spending so much time on this, but here goes. Â Let's assume that JWill replicates his YPC average from 2016 (probably unlikely given he's going to be a year further from his injury and in his sophomore year). Then let's assume he get's the same amount of carries that MG got last year. The different in yards would be about 200 yards over the course of the year. Spread that out over 16 games and it's 13 yards a game less that we get from the RB position with JWill, assuming worst case scenario (that JWill doesn't progress at all and MG would have stayed the same). Â You're going to say, what about TDs. I would submit that TDs are more of a fantasy football metric in terms of player evaluation. In other words, if JWill is put in on the goal line, he gets some TDs. Not just TDs but conversions on third and fourth are big points for MG, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 MG was a nice change of pace back for McCoy, and Williams is not the same talent. This is a loss. The running game was the Bills main strength. And it got them nowhere. 5 wins, with the great MG on the roster. So there that. By some accounts, J Will was a potential steal of that draft. He fumbled once or twice and got in RR's doghouse, hardly heard from again. Perhaps the guy can play, it's a bit early to say he can't , no? MG was cut before arriving in BUF , no one here ever heard of the guy. It's a backup RB , not a premierposition in today's NFL. Teams find productive guys at RB all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I would wager that we are already done...Shady getting hurt only moves us closer to #1 from #s7-12 Hey, if it means we have a chance to get Darnold then I don't care who we keep or get rid of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 should have never been in this position. but honestly he isnt the difference between playoffs or not so at the end of the day hows tyrod going to play this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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