Tiberius Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Are black males disproportionately responsible for the commission of violent crime? Are black males more likely to violently resist? If both if those are true, would that give context as to why law enforcement is more likely to use force while arresting black males? Do the people that resist lawful detention/arrest have any responsibility when force is then used against them? So you think cops should just have a license to murder? Sure seems that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you think cops should just have a license to murder? Sure seems that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you think cops should just have a license to murder? Sure seems that way. Cops have a license to protect themselves and others. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Well, it seems like the he was just breaking up a fight narrative is dead You can never blame the victim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: Cops have a license to protect themselves and others. By shooting people in the back....seven times? Ya, no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: By shooting people in the back....seven times? Ya, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: By shooting people in the back....seven times? Ya, no You are an especially bright bulb in this dim, dim world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 This is a perfect example of what happens when physical control doesn’t work as planned, and the suspect gains access to his car where he retrieves a gun. Facts very similar to Jacob Blake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: You are an especially bright bulb in this dim, dim world. And you make excuses for murders and defend a corrupt wannabe autocrat who sh its on our constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And you make excuses for murders and defend a corrupt wannabe autocrat who sh its on our constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Lol. Well what do you know. Don Lemon finally states the obvious. It took polling data and focus groups to get him there though...and not some friggin common sense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: And you make excuses for murders and defend a corrupt wannabe autocrat who sh its on our constitution No, I’m saying violent criminals should be dealt with. Where do you see that I am making excuses for murderers? And what does this have to do with Trump? And where have I said anything about him (in any post)? This isn’t about politics. It’s about right and wrong. And it seems you are wrong... since you are obviously out of arguments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Under Obama Republicans went wild because the president had a beer with two guys to try and relax tensions. Under Trump riots in the streets. Trump is causing the riots? That's a bunch of male bovine manure. The riots just reinforce the idea in voters minds that Trump is right. These liberal mayors, city government, and governors are impotent weaklings and incapable of maintaining or even attempting to maintain any sense of social order in the communities. All they're accomplishing is to push undecided voters in key swing states into Trump's camp. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Presidential election poll shows it a dead heat or Trump in the lead. That would render the Dem's "run out the clock" strategy useless. Reality is nobody wants to see anybody killed in the streets. And regardless, its unacceptable for a civil society to tolerate and allow rioting and looting every time there's a questionable police encounter with a person of color. What are they accomplishing by destroying and looting businesses frequented and sometimes owned by people in the neighborhoods. How about this. Maybe next time a cop shoot a white guy (something you really need to dig into the news to find because it gets buried) all of the white people can riot and loot too? There's a lot of stuff at Home Depot and Costco and Best Buy that can be had for free! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: This is a perfect example of what happens when physical control doesn’t work as planned, and the suspect gains access to his car where he retrieves a gun. Facts very similar to Jacob Blake. That's just horrible and it really highlights the risk police take. Taser not terribly effective in this case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Lol. Well what do you know. Don Lemon finally states the obvious. It took polling data and focus groups to get him there though...and not some friggin common sense. Amazing. NOT the riots should stop because they are wrong and innocent people are being harmed. But because they are hurting the Left. What an a.s.s. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Lol. Well what do you know. Don Lemon finally states the obvious. It took polling data and focus groups to get him there though...and not some friggin common sense. It seems so obvious that all this violence and the near silence from the left is a losing strategy for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: This is a perfect example of what happens when physical control doesn’t work as planned, and the suspect gains access to his car where he retrieves a gun. Facts very similar to Jacob Blake. this is the video i think of every time i see one of these shootings. cops tried everything to control the guy, he reaches in car and it's amazing the cops lived. but you won't see the left even try to put themselves in a cops position. just all they do is wrong. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Lol. Well what do you know. Don Lemon finally states the obvious. It took polling data and focus groups to get him there though...and not some friggin common sense. Burning down cities is not an effective campaign strategy? Who knew? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Because the "mam" will not cover it! and yet, so many people know about it. ?♂️ It is almost as if there are other ways to get your news. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: This is a perfect example of what happens when physical control doesn’t work as planned, and the suspect gains access to his car where he retrieves a gun. Facts very similar to Jacob Blake. That video should be shown after every police shooting to show the danger of police work. Sometimes police do the wrong thing and we end up with the defund nonsense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Under Obama Republicans went wild because the president had a beer with two guys to try and relax tensions. Under Trump riots in the streets. Do you admit that these riots are not about black lives but about Trump? Many times we had similar situations under Obama including rioting but it never got as widespread. Why is that liberals burn down their own places when they get mad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 43 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Lol. Well what do you know. Don Lemon finally states the obvious. It took polling data and focus groups to get him there though...and not some friggin common sense. Few things are as powerful as the truth. It's good to see Lemon admit that the reason the Democrats now have a problem with the riots is because it makes them look bad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 KENOSHA ON FIRE Rioting, looting and arson continued in Kenosha, Wisconsin for a second consecutive night. A local television station reports: Cellphone cameras captured looters smashing out the storefront windows of businesses and then ransacking the merchandise inside. “We’ve served a lot of people,” said the owner of Dale’s Jewelers. “We’ve been good to people, and this is the thanks you get. It’s sad. It’s sad.” The owner of Dale’s Jewelers says thieves took approximately $200,000 worth of jewelry and caused another $200,000 in damage. “That is not protesting,” said the owner of Dale’s Jewelers. “That is criminal. That’s criminal. All this is doing is bringing us to the brink of a Civil War.” Nothing expresses grief over the allegedly unjustified shooting of a black man like stealing jewelry. We saw the same thing in Minneapolis, Chicago and other cities. Rioters burned more than 50 vehicles on the lot of a Kenosha car dealer: Read more at powerlineblog.com ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said: Seven times is “absolute overkill”, eh? Yet, the guy isn’t dead....weird..... Well, obviously they overkilled him so much that he he went around the wheel and is alive again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I like the description of the confrontation - "protesters" vs. "armed militia". The should have said "peaceful protesters" for more emphasis. Unfortunately for the fringe left and their media activist stooges nobody is interesting in hearing or buying their horse crap narrative. Thank you - 4 more years of Trump! Mission accomplished. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Sig1Hunter said: This is a perfect example of what happens when physical control doesn’t work as planned, and the suspect gains access to his car where he retrieves a gun. Facts very similar to Jacob Blake. From the comments: Quote Daniel Clary, 22, was sentenced to 53 and a half to 110 years in prison for attempting to kill state troopers Seth Kelly and Ryan Seiple during a shootout Nov. 7, 2017, on the side of Route 33 in Plainfield Township. Thank God those troopers lived. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nanker Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Cops get shot a lot Being a Cop is a piece of cake. What an easy, cushy job. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Trump is causing the riots? You said it. I actually did not say Trump caused the riots. Just pointing out how under Trump we have racial riots in the streets. With Obama it was a beer. Maybe there is a connection. You say yourself that the riots are helping Trump. So ya, maybe something to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 IT CAN HAPPEN HERE. IN FACT, IT IS HAPPENING HERE. The authoritarian left isn’t content just to block speech it disagrees with. It also wants to force people into making leftist utterances and gestures. Today, at various restaurants in Washington, D.C, BLM protesters demanded that diners eating outdoors raise their fists in support. Most diners did — this is Washington — but a few did not. Those who did not were berated. The mob chanted “white silence is violence” at them. The statement is stupid and obviously false. If the BLM mob wants, nonetheless, to chant it, that’s fine. But not in the faces of people who are simply trying to eat dinner. I agree with Bari Weiss, who was recently “cancelled” by the New York Times because her writings didn’t track leftist orthodoxy. She described the BLM mob’s behavior as “vile and un-American.” One of the victims of the mob said she has been protesting for weeks against the police (or whatever), but that “it did not feel right” to be coerced into raising her fist. Unfortunately, she reportedly was the only person at the restaurant where she was eating to have such quintessentially American qualms or, in any case, to act on them. The pandemic has caused those who frequent restaurants to eat outdoors, even in the horrible D.C. heat. But nothing will stand in the way of mobs coming inside restaurants to harass people when the time comes. Years ago at Dartmouth, a mob of black protesters rampaged through the library demanding aggressively that students who were preparing for final exams join them outside at a rally. The fledgling brown shirts received no meaningful punishment from the college. Colleges have become training grounds for brown shirts. Graduates have taken the authoritarian lessons learned there to the streets and sidewalks of America. The chickens have come home to roost. Tonight at the Republican Convention, Nick Sandmann, who received the equivalent of a berating from an old lefty who banged a drum in his face because he dared to wear a MAGA hat, was one of the speakers. He showed remarkable restraint when he was confronted by the ancient drum banger. The mainstream media demonized Sandmann nonetheless for “smirking,” and it lied about what had transpired. He fought back with a lawsuit and is now collecting settlement money from various media giants. Unfortunately, there is no obvious remedy for the kind of mob behavior that occurred today in D.C. Nor will law enforcement become involved. I’m told that officers stood by passively as diners were harassed. Naturally. If they aren’t going to lift a finger to prevent looting and arson, we can’t expect them to prevent harassment at restaurants. MORE AT THE LINK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bdutton Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You said it. I actually did not say Trump caused the riots. Just pointing out how under Trump we have racial riots in the streets. With Obama it was a beer. Maybe there is a connection. You say yourself that the riots are helping Trump. So ya, maybe something to that. BLM was formed during Obama's presidency. Unarmed Micheal Brown was shot and killed by a police officer. He was ordered by the policeman to move to the sidewalk (he was walking down the middle of the road after having assaulted a shop owner and shoplifted cigars). When he disobeyed the order the police man pulled up to him and that is when Michael Brown punched the officer in the face and reached in to take his gun. The officer and Brown struggled with the gun until it went off, reportedly striking Brown in the finger. Brown ran away and the officer chased him down. Brown turned and charged the officer. That is when the officer drew and fatally shot Brown. The DOJ and the State Prosecutor agreed it was justified. Obama issued a milktoast response. BLM the organization started over a criminal that attempted to murder a police officer who was just doing his job. Riots ensued over all of this and Obama owns that because calling out a criminal black man for making a mistake that cost him his life didn't fit the left's narrative that police are bad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, bdutton said: BLM was formed during Obama's presidency. Unarmed Micheal Brown was shot and killed by a police officer. He was ordered by the policeman to move to the sidewalk (he was walking down the middle of the road after having assaulted a shop owner and shoplifted cigars). When he disobeyed the order the police man pulled up to him and that is when Michael Brown punched the officer in the face and reached in to take his gun. The officer and Brown struggled with the gun until it went off, reportedly striking Brown in the finger. Brown ran away and the officer chased him down. Brown turned and charged the officer. That is when the officer drew and fatally shot Brown. The DOJ and the State Prosecutor agreed it was justified. Obama issued a milktoast response. BLM the organization started over a criminal that attempted to murder a police officer who was just doing his job. Riots ensued over all of this and Obama owns that because calling out a criminal black man for making a mistake that cost him his life didn't fit the left's narrative that police are bad. You are right. But the situation has deteriorated under Trump. After Trump endorsed police brutality to the roar of laughter and appaluse of police officers in a crowd the situation worsened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: You are right. But the situation has deteriorated under Trump. After Trump endorsed police brutality to the roar of laughter and appaluse of police officers in a crowd the situation worsened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You are right. But the situation has deteriorated under Trump. After Trump endorsed police brutality to the roar of laughter and appaluse of police officers in a crowd the situation worsened. No... the left continues to support the lie that he was murdered. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/harris-warren-wrong-about-brown-shooting/ Quote On Aug. 9, 2014, Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old black man, was shot and killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, in what the Obama administration’s Department of Justice determined was an act of “self-defense.” But Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren referred to Brown’s death as a “murder.” On the fifth anniversary of Brown’s death, Harris tweeted, “Michael Brown’s murder forever changed Ferguson and America. His tragic death sparked a desperately needed conversation and a nationwide movement.” Warren tweeted: “5 years ago Michael Brown was murdered by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael was unarmed yet he was shot 6 times.” Why would they say that except to continue to inflame the BLM movement's violent protests which results in money donated to BLM getting funneled directly to the DNC. Edited August 26, 2020 by bdutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 It was never about social justice or equality. It was always about cold, calculated politics. And they blew it. The party that lied for three years about treason, a stolen election, Russians, and "peaceful" protests just can't seem to do anything right. All they had to do to beat Trump is NOT be crazy... and they just couldn't do it. There's still time for the rational people out there to wake up and reject the continuation of the establishment political class's tactics... who will do it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It was never about social justice or equality. It was always about cold, calculated politics. And they blew it. The party that lied for three years about treason, a stolen election, Russians, and "peaceful" protests just can't seem to do anything right. All they had to do to beat Trump is NOT be crazy... and they just couldn't do it. There's still time for the rational people out there to wake up and reject the continuation of the establishment political class's tactics... who will do it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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