Liberal Protests

[dpberr]

Once the weather gets warm...

 

Unfortunately the situation in Minneapolis will be used as justification for looting in other big cities. It's coming. 

 

Most of these cities have closed all the pools, parks, summer programs and are filled with unemployed young people who've been under lockdown.

 

 

[Franco_92]

All I see are a bunch of avid joggers checking out the stores with their buddies. Just guys being dudes. They'll check out local construction sites next 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Right.

 

I have no problem holding law enforcement officers accountable for their behavior. What I detest is: (1) The use of the actions of specific individuals to justify the attribution of motives to an entire group, (2) the use of that attribution as justification for completely unrelated , violent, criminal activity, and (3) the instantaneous use of a tragedy for political purposes.

I have not heard a single person defend what the offending officer did in this case. So, why has he not been arrested?  Remember, that doesn't mean 'convicted'.  So far, he's been fired?  That seems like a pretty odd response from an organization that just had one of their employees KILL SOMEONE ON VIDEO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET! I can see why the citizens are upset. If any of them did what this officer did, they would be in handcuffs before sunset.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Right.

 

I have no problem holding law enforcement officers accountable for their behavior. What I detest is: (1) The use of the actions of specific individuals to justify the attribution of motives to an entire group, (2) the use of that attribution as justification for completely unrelated , violent, criminal activity, and (3) the instantaneous use of a tragedy for political purposes.

 

...certainly agree...…..back to the sad 60's...…...this is Ferguson MO Take 2...………..

Edited May 28, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[billsfan1959]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have not heard a single person defend what the offending officer did in this case. So, why has he not been arrested?  Remember, that doesn't mean 'convicted'.  So far, he's been fired?  That seems like a pretty odd response from an organization that just had one of their employees KILL SOMEONE ON VIDEO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET! I can see why the citizens are upset. If any of them did what this officer did, they would be in handcuffs before sunset.

 

I am not defending the officer(s). I fully understand why people are upset. It upsets me as well. However, there is a process and I am not a fan of that process, or any legal process, being driven by societal pressure. It should be driven by facts and the law.

 

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have not heard a single person defend what the offending officer did in this case. So, why has he not been arrested?  Remember, that doesn't mean 'convicted'.  So far, he's been fired?  That seems like a pretty odd response from an organization that just had one of their employees KILL SOMEONE ON VIDEO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET! I can see why the citizens are upset. If any of them did what this officer did, they would be in handcuffs before sunset.

Good question. Mr. Floyd’s death hasn’t been ruled a murder yet? If it even will be. 

 

 

[whatdrought]

14 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Agreed. 

 

I'll say the timing sure is interesting. A big, embarrassing gaffe, followed by a tragedy/crime, then "spontaneous" riots which will force both candidates to make loud and clear statements on this issue. It's a "never fail to take advantage of a tragedy" play right from certain bad actors' playbooks. 

 

Only takes a few paid assets in a crowd to turn it from peaceful into something else. 

 

 

*warning, might be graphic -- just saw the full clip

 

More: 

 

 

I assume I'm racist for this take, but I don't care when mobs of people get run over while violently attacking vehicles on the road... 

 

On 5/26/2020 at 3:04 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

 

 Based on what I've read, they're both pieces of *****. If the guy wanted her to have her dog on a leash, he should have called the police and not tried to take her dog. Meanwhile she freaked out for what was seemingly not as big a deal as it was made out to be. 

[Warren Zevon]

RIP George Floyd

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

I am confident that the 'officer' will be charged and convicted..................unfortunately (like with all murder cases) these things take an interminable amount of time.

 

 

 

 

 Meanwhile........

 

[billsfan1959]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Good question. Mr. Floyd’s death hasn’t been ruled a murder yet? If it even will be. 

 

 

 

The medical examiner rules on the manner of the death (natural, accidental, suicide, homicide, or undetermined) and cause of death (specific injuries that caused the death). The legal system determines whether it was murder. That process has just started.

[Warren Zevon]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

 

The medical examiner rules on the manner of the death (natural, accidental, suicide, homicide, or undetermined) and cause of death (specific injuries that caused the death). The legal system determines whether it was murder. That process has just started.

 

If DR curb-stomped me and I died he would arrested on the spot before a medical examiner ruled on the manner of death.

[MILFHUNTER#518]

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

For opposing public health measures that have saved lives. Keep up the good work, or whatever it is 

[dubs]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Good question. Mr. Floyd’s death hasn’t been ruled a murder yet? If it even will be. 

 

 

 

Do you honestly believe the cop won't be charged?

 

I'd estimate that 99% of the population would all agree that this cop should be charged with murder.  Yet, everyone is arguing because of people like you who stoke fear and rage.  I would bet anything that the DA charges the cop with murder in the next couple days.

 

 

[billsfan1959]

Just now, Warren Zevon said:

 

If DR curb-stomped me and I died he would arrested on the spot before a medical examiner ruled on the manner of death.

 

Well, it wasn't a curb stomping. It was an officer using excessive force in the performance of official duties. It certainly doesn't make it right, nor defensible. Those are different scenarios. If it was an intentional  "curb stomping," my guess is that the officer would be in custody.

 

My personal opinion, based soley on the video evidence is that charges should be brought. I am sure they will. As I stated earlier, I am not a fan of the legal process being driven by emotion. Nor should you be.

 

BTW, there are plenty of instances in which somone does something that results in a death and is not immediately arrested.

 

Let the process work as it is designed.

[IDBillzFan]

3 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

Do you honestly believe the cop won't be charged?

 

I'd estimate that 99% of the population would all agree that this cop should be charged with murder.  Yet, everyone is arguing because of people like you who stoke fear and rage.  I would bet anything that the DA charges the cop with murder in the next couple days.

 

 

 

That's exactly what it is. Deep down, Tibs and the leftists are begging for the locals to sweep this away so the riots can begin and they can post a false news report that the officers voted for Trump before someone correcting that lie.

 

When you've got nothing, you'll take anything.,

[RiotAct]

most of the looters appear to be wearing masks... they are good people in my book.

[IDBillzFan]

1 minute ago, RiotAct said:

most of the looters appear to be wearing masks... they are good people in my book.

 

They're thoughtful, is what they are. Just good, thoughtful people who really only care about the welfare of those around them.

 

And a 65" Vizio.

[Tiberius]

8 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

Do you honestly believe the cop won't be charged?

 

I'd estimate that 99% of the population would all agree that this cop should be charged with murder.  Yet, everyone is arguing because of people like you who stoke fear and rage.  I would bet anything that the DA charges the cop with murder in the next couple days.

 

 

You are a liar. I’m not doing anything to total idiot. Fu! 

4 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

That's exactly what it is. Deep down, Tibs and the leftists are begging for the locals to sweep this away so the riots can begin and they can post a false news report that the officers voted for Trump before someone correcting that lie.

 

When you've got nothing, you'll take anything.,

You bag of garbage. 

[Warren Zevon]

9 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

 

 

You're a sad and angry man. I hope your family doesn't see this side of you.

Edited May 28, 2020 by Warren Zevon

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

The end result of the Minneapolis "protests" (ie, an "excuse" to loot):
 

 

 

Of course, it will be racist for any business destroyed by these idiots to refuse to rebuild - just like when CVS refused to reopen stores looted and destroyed in Baltimore.

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are a liar. I’m not doing anything to total idiot. Fu! 

 

Someone please remind Tibsy that complete sentences are your friend.

 

 

 

 

 

I’ve watched the #GeorgeFloyd video countless times, and there’s just no excuse.

 

The cop was doling out punishment, not enforcing the law.

 

There is no doubt that he will be charged and that "some" justice for Mr. Floyd will happen.

 

It is a shame that his murder will be used by many here.

 

 

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

They're thoughtful, is what they are. Just good, thoughtful people who really only care about the welfare of those around them.

 

And a 65" Vizio.

 

...uh oh...big problem......65" is 5' 5"...….so if it takes two to carry it, they are NOT social distancing, right?...………...

[njbuff]

4 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Of course, it will be racist for any business destroyed by these idiots to refuse to rebuild - just like when CVS refused to reopen stores looted and destroyed in Baltimore.

 

And some of these businesses are black owned businesses too.

 

Looters are gonna loot. That is just the way they are.

[dubs]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are a liar. I’m not doing anything to total idiot. Fu! 

You bag of garbage. 

 

I can't really translate what you said, especially, "I'm not doing anything to total idiot. Fu!"

 

But, what you did say in the post before was, question if the cop will actually be charged with murder.  You don't think that stokes fear and outrage?  Maybe not down here because most of us are sensible, but in the world of hysteria we live it, it's part of the growing chorus of insanity.

 

This cop will be charged with murder.  If not, then rage, that's the proper order of things.

 

 

[whatdrought]

Just now, dubs said:

 

I can't really translate what you said, especially, "I'm not doing anything to total idiot. Fu!"

 

But, what you did say in the post before was, question if the cop will actually be charged with murder.  You don't think that stokes fear and outrage?  Maybe not down here because most of us are sensible, but in the world of hysteria we live it, it's part of the growing chorus of insanity.

 

This cop will be charged with murder.  If not, then rage, that's the proper order of things.

 

 

 

The problem is that Tibs and his like minded brethren live in a world of make - belief where there have been hundreds of cases of black people being wrongfully killed by police with no punishment for the police. (hands up don't shoot) So now, where faced with a genuine situation of police brutality where everyone agrees the cop needs to be punished, the outrage machine is set so dang high that they can't not lose their ***** and continue to push the narrative that this is the every day happening in the world and that the police are never punished.

[Koko78]

6 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

And some of these businesses are black owned businesses too.

 

Looters are gonna loot. That is just the way they are.

 

I mean national businesses like racist Wendy's (who use a racist white girl as their mascot, which is not very inclusive to PoCs), and racist Autozone, who only pander to rich white folk who can afford automobiles.

 

The unfortunate black business owner whose livelihoods were destroyed by the rioters will have to be given taxpayer reparations to redress this racial injustice.

[Tiberius]

8 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

I can't really translate what you said, especially, "I'm not doing anything to total idiot. Fu!"

 

But, what you did say in the post before was, question if the cop will actually be charged with murder.  You don't think that stokes fear and outrage?  Maybe not down here because most of us are sensible, but in the world of hysteria we live it, it's part of the growing chorus of insanity.

 

This cop will be charged with murder.  If not, then rage, that's the proper order of things.

 

 

Only a moron just accuses someone of something just because you are a frustrated idiot. Buzz off, if you can understand that 

6 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

The problem is that Tibs and his like minded brethren live in a world of make - belief where there have been hundreds of cases of black people being wrongfully killed by police with no punishment for the police. (hands up don't shoot) So now, where faced with a genuine situation of police brutality where everyone agrees the cop needs to be punished, the outrage machine is set so dang high that they can't not lose their ***** and continue to push the narrative that this is the every day happening in the world and that the police are never punished.

Lol, you are stupid. Seriously 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

28 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

For opposing public health measures that have saved lives. Keep up the good work, or whatever it is 

We are all breathlessly waiting for you or one of your multiple clone handles to denounce last evening's riots.

[Tiberius]

Just now, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

We are all breathlessly waiting for you or one of your multiple clone handles to denounce last evening's riots.

Ya, that will do a lot of good! 

 

Lol! Hey get this, these guys are waiting on me, while not breathing? Gosh, I’m really important to you 

 

 

Are you really breathless? Gosh 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Ya, that will do a lot of good! 

 

Lol! Hey get this, these guys are waiting on me, while not breathing? Gosh, I’m really important to you 

 

 

Are you really breathless? Gosh 

You must be the life of the party!

[billsfan1959]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Ya, that will do a lot of good! 

Lol! Hey get this, these guys are waiting on me, while not breathing? Gosh, I’m really important to you 

Are you really breathless? Gosh 

 

His post was"Tongue in cheek" no doubt. However, he does have a point.

 

Can you condemn the actions of the officer(s) and condemn criminal behavior on the part of those committing arson, assault, theft, vandalism, etc.?

 

It would seem to me to be a very reasonble stance. If you disagree, why?

[njbuff]

5 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

You must be the life of the party!

 

That is a frightening thought.

[Motorin']

15 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

I’ve watched the #GeorgeFloyd video countless times, and there’s just no excuse.

 

The cop was doling out punishment, not enforcing the law.

 

There is no doubt that he will be charged and that "some" justice for Mr. Floyd will happen.

 

It is a shame that his murder will be used by many here.

 

 

 

 

 

The problem is that the police don't see it that way. Three additional officers assisted or watched this cold blooded murder in real time. They could have stopped it. They didn't. It is against the code to stop a fellow officer in the act of doling out punishment. And when cops do step in to stop a fellow officer from killing someone, their careers are ruined. 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[SectionC3]

5 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

His post was"Tongue in cheek" no doubt. However, he does have a point.

 

Can you condemn the actions of the officer(s) and condemn criminal behavior on the part of those committing arson, assault, theft, vandalism, etc.?

 

It would seem to me to be a very reasonble stance. If you disagree, why?

 

The officers and the looters, etc., all are wrong here.  The issue is the attempt to identify an equivalency between the acts.  

 

Based on what I’ve seen, George Floyd’s death isn’t a murder.   But it could well be a manslaughter.  The wrongful taking of a life is infinitely worse than the inexcusable acts of thievery, destruction of property, looting, etc. that have occurred.  They don’t belong in the same conversation.  The looters absolutely are disgraceful and wrong.  But that’s a conversation to be had separate from the police brutality issue that we unfortunately have to again grapple with as a society. 

[billsfan1959]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

The problem is that the police don't see it that way. Three additional officers assisted or watched this cold blooded murder in real time. They could have stopped it. They didn't. It is against the code to stop a fellow officer in the act of doling out punishment. And when cops do step in to stop a fellow officer from killing someone, their careers are ruined. 

 

Link?

 

To extrapolate the actions of specific individuals into how people in an entire profession think, what motivates their behaviors, or that they outright condone this type of behavior is beyond ridiculous.

[Reality Check]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

The officers and the looters, etc., all are wrong here.  The issue is the attempt to identify an equivalency between the acts.  

 

Based on what I’ve seen, George Floyd’s death isn’t a murder.   But it could well be a manslaughter.  The wrongful taking of a life is infinitely worse than the inexcusable acts of thievery, destruction of property, looting, etc. that have occurred.  They don’t belong in the same conversation.  The looters absolutely are disgraceful and wrong.  But that’s a conversation to be had separate from the police brutality issue that we unfortunately have to again grapple with as a society. 

Hoax. Try agin.

[SectionC3]

Just now, Reality Check said:

Hoax. Try agin.

Copying the libs to own the libs.  Nice!

[Royale with Cheese]

Floyd died of torture.  I've trained in BJJ for years and chokes can hurt...like badly.  Some put you out when you barely feel it...that's when the person applied a certain choke correctly.  But some chokes don't shutoff the blood supply immediately and you will tap from the pain....literally in 2-4 seconds.  You just can't take it anymore and you tap....2-4 seconds.

Floyd had this knee on his neck for 8 minutes.  He was suffering the entire time....my stomach was turning watching that.  The pain he was in was unbearable.

Edited May 28, 2020 by Royale with Cheese