YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) @josinaanderson DE Mario Williams to me on being open to working things out with the #Bills. "Yes, most definitely..." On being open to a pay cut "yea, it's bigger than just the numbers (if feasible) https://m.facebook.com/JosinaAndersonESPN/posts/1058437377546578:0 Edited February 24, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 no friggen way! oh snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) no friggen way! oh snap but still wants Rexy to meet him halfway (no likey dropping back in coverage) I will give him this - he is consistent with his quotes. Edited February 24, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 those are some pretty candid quotes... this could change...well...just about everything being discussed over the past month re: offseason "needs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 My only glimmer of hope on Mario is the possibility that he was playing hurt last year. If not, he's awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 My only glimmer of hope on Mario is the possibility that he was playing hurt last year. If not, he's awfulhaha there is a disconnect between Mario and the All-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 At the right price I'd take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 haha there is a disconnect between Mario and the All-22 Exactly. He keeps talking about attacking but when he gets handled one on one with a TE, what do you do with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Only if it can be done in a way that we can still keep Glenn and Cogs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 If we are going to use him like we did last year or he is going to perform like he did last year, I don't think he fits at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 At the right price I'd take him At the right price? He's 8th among active players in sacks and has the most out of any player since entering the league in 2006. What's the right price to you, since you're cutting the checks apparently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Wow! CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 At the right price? He's 8th among active players in sacks and has the most out of any player since entering the league in 2006. What's the right price to you, since you're cutting the checks apparently? as Jauronimo said, if he plays like he did last year or the Bills use him like they did last year there is no right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 At the right price? He's 8th among active players in sacks and has the most out of any player since entering the league in 2006. What's the right price to you, since you're cutting the checks apparently? Ever been to two bills drive ? Ever heard a joke ? What are these checks you're talking about Ej Stan ? And this If we are going to use him like we did last year or he is going to perform like he did last year, I don't think he fits at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Ever been to two bills drive ? Ever heard a joke ? What are these checks you're talking about Ej Stan ? Yes, I've heard of a joke. Was that, and was this a joke? Good jokes are usually both easy to spot, and you know...funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 At the right price? He's 8th among active players in sacks and has the most out of any player since entering the league in 2006. What's the right price to you, since you're cutting the checks apparently? Not last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) but still wants Rexy to meet him halfway (no likey dropping back in coverage) I will give him this - he is consistent with his quotes. Thats fair. I think he should only have to move forward. All 4 of them SHOULD ONLY MOVE FORWARD Well Jerry can move any way he wants... but 300 lbs should go forth Edited February 24, 2016 by Agent 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 By the way If I knew that Mario was going to buy into Rex Ryan's system and he took a pay cut that allowed us to be free agent players? YES To me that is the single greatest problem......it isnt the talent...Mario Williams is a talented player....it is the effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 At the right price? He's 8th among active players in sacks and has the most out of any player since entering the league in 2006. What's the right price to you, since you're cutting the checks apparently? I know what he said but with your stats and his skill set... you make your defense work for him... and dareus... the thing that kills me is people who act like mario was the only one not productive. He tied for lead in sacks and that was at 5 friggin sacks. Something is wrong... Mario settles on 12 or 13 mil a season done deal for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yes, I've heard of a joke. Was that, and was this a joke? Good jokes are usually both easy to spot, and you know...funny. You don't get it, dig deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Even if the only upside is keeping him out of New England, then yes, Im all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I know what he said but with your stats and his skill set... you make your defense work for him... and dareus... the thing that kills me is people who act like mario was the only one not productive. He tied for lead in sacks and that was at 5 friggin sacks. Something is wrong... Mario settles on 12 or 13 mil a season done deal for me I, too, would like to think the coaching staff would be able to figure out a way to utilize or motivate a player with exemplary talent. You don't get it, dig deeper. You're right, I don't. Explain it to me like I'm you five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 If he's willing to take a paycut, I don't see how we don't keep him, and I think that if the Bills were sure they didn't want him he would be gone already. Thats one fewer hole to fill in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Could be agent-driven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I, too, would like to think the coaching staff would be able to figure out a way to utilize or motivate a player with exemplary talent. You're right, I don't. Explain it to me like I'm you five. Read a thread sometime. Why so cranky ? Overcook the ramen noodles again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Too late. Enjoy the next venue Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 @jonahjavad My biggest takeaway from Mario Williams convo w/ @JosinaAnderson: Coaches, players finding common ground on scheme. When I spoke with @NickellRobey_37 at locker clean-out, he said Bills coaches gave players more on-field freedom vs. Jets in Week 17. Coaches allowed defense to call plays/audibles. Seems like the breakthrough both sides needed. Mario's comments fall in line with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think am right that Mario's cap hit this year is $19.7m with a saving of $12.7m from cutting him and dead cap of $7m. I'd be wanting him to cut his cap hit in half to do it... so basically he would cost us $2.5-3m more than cutting him. But I'd also want to know he was all in and I was convinced he was going to try. If I had any doubt on that I cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Too late. Enjoy the next venue Mario. You think so? Did he seal his fate when he publicly complained about the defense? Wouldnt the Bills save more money by keeping him then they would cutting him? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think am right that Mario's cap hit this year is $19.7m with a saving of $12.7m from cutting him and dead cap of $7m. I'd be wanting him to cut his cap hit in half to do it... so basically he would cost us $2.5-3m more than cutting him. But I'd also want to know he was all in and I was convinced he was going to try. If I had any doubt on that I cut him. yes- in his own words, it certainly is about more than just the numbers. He counts 7mill against the cap whether he's here or not. If you can even get it down to that... Is he worth it if he buys in? Does Rex hold a grudge that he pouted and quit and made him look bad? The Bills may even tear up the contract and do a new one. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 i love me some Mario... but that ship has sailed.....he quit on his teammates...it's over......time to move on.......besides , rex isn't changing. as far as the team goes, he'd have to take a pay cut down to about $1-2 mil......and that aint happening. this is just PR posturing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 so let us do our thing, at least half the time.” I thought that's what he was big on last year--doing something only half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Pay cut, and take away his refrigerator. I think he can still play, and like someone noted, it wasn't just Mario Williams who had a bad year, pretty much the whole front 7 suddenly sucked...Wrex's fault methinks. If they can figure out how to use him, I would be very happy to keep him. So if they keep him, does that mean a Nose Tackle is the only big priority for the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Ty Dunne story in case you hate FB links like I do http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/02/24/mario-williams-says-hes-open-to-taking-a-pay-cut-wants-to-meet-halfway-with-scheme/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I really don't care anymore. We have need for that cap hit elsewhere and there's a plethora of guys in the draft that can do what Rex wants. Mario won't truly buy in to Rex because Rex won't change who he is. It's a bad marriage, get a divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 You think so? Did he seal his fate when he publicly complained about the defense? Wouldnt the Bills save more money by keeping him then they would cutting him? CBF ? Why? Too expensive, too whiny, too selfish, and too late. CYA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Does the paycut come with added motivation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Does the paycut come with added motivation? Maybe. They could also hang that screen shot of him being blocked by Sproles in his locker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Does the paycut come with added motivation? This is probably Mario's best effort since 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) I really don't care anymore. We have need for that cap hit elsewhere and there's a plethora of guys in the draft that can do what Rex wants. Mario won't truly buy in to Rex because Rex won't change who he is. It's a bad marriage, get a divorce. we take at least a 7m hit whether he's here or not though I thought. So wonder what he's willing to do in a new deal. I originally thought he wouldn't agree to an extension. It could end up opening more cap space to keep him on a new deal than cutting him. Unless I'm not looking at the contract right. Edited February 24, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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