YoloinOhio Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 @gonzocsn Law enforcement official: arrest warrant process for Recess incident started last night. Should be submitted for DA approval today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 thats alot of witnesses..... should be all kinds of contradicting testimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 thats alot of witnesses..... should be all kinds of contradicting testimony. But the tape don't lie. The TMZ video isn't good for Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I don't think Sammy Morris was ever a Bronco. You would be correct. Not sure who I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) My initial observation of the video: After watching both videos quickly, I am not able to draw any conclusions one way or the other. Maybe I have to spend more time watching them, but, at least at first glance, I do not see a whole lot to convict McCoy based on the videos themselves. He might be innocent or guilty as hell. I have no idea. As an aside: Shady is a great football talent. I was initially against not signing CJ, trading Kiko, and signing Shady to a contract that exceeds both of their contracts. When healthy, Shady was a dynamic runner. When he kissed the Eagle etc. at the game in Philly, I had that feeling that he would never feel that way about my team and hometown and he would always prefer to be in Philly over Buffalo. When this story broke yesterday, I found myself defending Shady (maybe because I am an attorney although not a criminal attorney). In the end, no matter what actually happened or did not happen here, I can say with just about 100% certainty that CJ never would have been involved in something like this (or even present at such a membership club). Shady is a dynamic runner, but I really hope that this incident is not a distraction throughout the off season or next season. If he is guilty, the Bills may have to move on (depending on what he is guilty of). If he is not guilty, I hope that this is established quickly. Edited February 9, 2016 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 You would be correct. Not sure who I was thinking of. Winder. Sammy Winder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Not looking good for Shady. At best it's just another exercise in poor judgment. At worse, his career is over and we are left again to pick up the pieces. If he is jailed, do the Bills still owe him guaranteed money and does it count against the cap?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 i see shady throwing at least one haymaker punch in the melee. he gets pulled off, but goes back in for more. he gets pulled off again, held back, directly looks towards someones phone videoing the fight, he calms down. he is in a heap chit of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) this video? http://www.tmz.com/2016/02/09/lesean-mccoy-bar-fight-video-meek-mill/ "We believe the man in the red boxers who gets pulled into the ice bucket is LeSean McCoy." There's a quote you don't see every day Edited February 9, 2016 by stevewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 i see shady throwing at least one haymaker punch in the melee. he gets pulled off, but goes back in for more. he gets pulled off again, held back, directly looks towards someones phone videoing the fight, he calms down. he is in a heap chit of trouble. He sure is. It is clearly him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 You can CLEARLY see him in there throwing punches He is getting suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 From a criminal law point of view: if Shady has past problems with the law--this event is going to leave a mark if his record is fairly clean, he might come away here not to damaged From a civil law point of view--Shady has big problems here. Especially with the guy reported to have a skull fracture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Idiot. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Not looking good for Shady. At best it's just another exercise in poor judgment. At worse, his career is over and we are left again to pick up the pieces. If he is jailed, do the Bills still owe him guaranteed money and does it count against the cap?? Since the cash has already been paid the Bills would be on the hook for the remaining cap hit from his signing bonus, of which $10.5M is remaining. 75% of that could be deferred until 2017 with a June 1st designation. His $4.8M salary for 2016 becomes fully guaranteed on the first day of the league year, which is March 9th. The Bills could almost certainly get out of that though. They'd also have to draft or find and sign another starting RB. The real problem here might be timing. Who knows how long the legal process will take? Or if Goodell would suspend or otherwise discipline McCoy in the meantime. I would not be surprised if McCoy played part of, or even the whole, 2016 season while the case is pending. This could go a lot of different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Bills fans need to be more like Patriots fans and come up with every lame conceivable excuse known to man, instead of trying to crucify the guy even before an arrest was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 The new TMZ video is the smoking gun. The other one was grainy and bad resolution. In the TMZ one you can clearly see Shady throwing a punch at someone that appears to be on the ground. He's not getting away with this one. I'm absolutely embarrassed this guy is on our team. He looks like an ignorant a-hole saying Chip is a racist and now this. No wonder Chip got rid of him. Way to prove him right. At this point I wouldn't care if we cut him and drafted Elliot from Ohio state. He will be cheaper, less injury prone, and probably more productive. Then we have Karlos and Gillislee too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 He'll be 28 this year. Time to grow up and quit trying to relive the college years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 The new TMZ video is the smoking gun. The other one was grainy and bad resolution. In the TMZ one you can clearly see Shady throwing a punch at someone that appears to be on the ground. He's not getting away with this one. I'm absolutely embarrassed this guy is on our team. He looks like an ignorant a-hole saying Chip is a racist and now this. No wonder Chip got rid of him. Way to prove him right. At this point I wouldn't care if we cut him and drafted Elliot from Ohio state. He will be cheaper, less injury prone, and probably more productive. Then we have Karlos and Gillislee too He'll do no time, 3-4 games from the NFL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 He'll do no time, 3-4 games from the NFL... My 1st concern is my football team.....they are a better team with Shady on it but I was much impressed with Karlos and Gisalee this past year.....and I think we can weather the storm of 3-4 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My 1st concern is my football team.....they are a better team with Shady on it but I was much impressed with Karlos and Gisalee this past year.....and I think we can weather the storm of 3-4 games in an odd scheduling quirk, it will be announced in April that the Bills play the Pats** twice in the first 3 weeks of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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