YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 @mikerodak Bills WR Marquise Goodwin says he will try to qualify for summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. If he makes it, he will discuss with team possibility of missing time in training camp. Wonder if he's even back. I forgot about him. And I like the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let him go, bring back Deonte Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The team should release Goodwin. He's fast but injury prone and the roster and position spot can be better utilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Make Goodwin a reserve player. We always need 4-5 extra WRs due to injury. Let him come in midway in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I like Marquise but he needs to be cut. The Bills are basically financing his Olympic try outs and getting nothing in return. Watching him post videos on FB of him long jumping while on IR got pretty annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 @mikerodak Bills WR Marquise Goodwin says he will try to qualify for summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. If he makes it, he will discuss with team possibility of missing time in training camp. Wonder if he's even back. I forgot about him. And I like the guy. I was criticized for saying this before, but IMHO Marquise should do One Thing Well. At a lower level, kids can and should pursue multiple interests. But when one gets to the elite level, one is competing with guys who are all-in, giving 100% 100% of the time. In this day and age, it usually doesn't work out. As it stands, Marquise current level of dedication to football is not-quite-quite. His hands aren't where they need to be, his route running is improved but not all there, he can get jammed on the line too easily. He needs to take a step. He may need to carry a bit more muscle bulk. He may need a training regime in the off-season that is more focused on football. As it stands, Marquise is just short of competitive at the World level on the long jump. Getting injured every football season can not be helping him. And the training to take a step as a WR may not be the training he needs to take a step as an elite long jumper Pick a sport and focus. "All it Takes is All You Got". Or maybe more than you got, but give it all you got and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 he's done with the bills....maybe football all together until his olympic aspirations are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 He won't be on the roster next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Make Goodwin a reserve player. We always need 4-5 extra WRs due to injury. Let him come in midway in the season. I doubt he is eligible for the practice squad anyone, so he would have to take a roster spot, which is ok I guess. Little guy, not sure he can hold up in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Good for him. It must be an amazing experience competing in the Olympics. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I like Marquise but he needs to be cut. The Bills are basically financing his Olympic try outs and getting nothing in return. Watching him post videos on FB of him long jumping while on IR got pretty annoying. He was long jumping all off-season last year too. Too bad he didn't try and get ready for football by putting on some muscle and running game routes. He treats track like his job and football like he hobby. Probably why he's always hurt. Cut him please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 He was long jumping all off-season last year too. Too bad he didn't try and get ready for football by putting on some muscle and running game routes. He treats track like his job and football like he hobby. Probably why he's always hurt. Cut him please But that's not right either, kdiggz - if he treated track like his job, he wouldn't let himself continually get dinged up playing contact sports. The truth is he's "lukewarm" at both, failing to give either his All at a level where his more successful competitors are giving it their All, 100% of the time. Either or Not Both Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 But that's not right either, kdiggz - if he treated track like his job, he wouldn't let himself continually get dinged up playing contact sports. The truth is he's "lukewarm" at both, failing to give either his All at a level where his more successful competitors are giving it their All, 100% of the time. Either or Not Both Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 ^I agree with Ron Swanson on everything in life lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boolay Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I love the speed Goodwin brings but at this point enough is enough. He doesn't bring the intangible of staying healthy. It doesn't matter the reason why.. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Unlike some, I don't consider Goodwin a complete bust because when he has been able to get on the field, he has produced reasonably well and opens things up for the offense. However, his selection in the third round encapsulates everything that has been wrong with the Bills' front office for the past 20 years. Goodwin is a very talented athlete, but had not been highly productive at Texas, despite having a few big games. At the time the Bills picked Goodwin, Markus Wheaton (WR, Oregon State) was still on the board. Wheaton is a little bigger than Goodwin and only marginally slower (He once beat D'Anthony Thomas in the 100 yard dash in a PAC 12 track meet.) The difference is that Wheaton was a tremendously productive WR as a three-year starter at Oregon State against the highest level of competition, and he is tough as nails, AFIK never missing a game in college. But the Bills decided to outsmart themselves and picked a flashy athlete who they thought had a higher upside over a fabulously productive FOOTBALL PLAYER. The Steelers selected Wheaton with the very next selection. He is their slot receiver and, as in college, he has been highly productive--750 yards receiving this year, 5 TDs and averages over 17 YPC. If the Steelers didn't have Martavis Bryant as their number 2 guy, Wheaton's numbers would look even better. Another missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Time to fire this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I like Marquise but he needs to be cut. The Bills are basically financing his Olympic try outs and getting nothing in return. Watching him post videos on FB of him long jumping while on IR got pretty annoying. This. Great guy (see story with his sister), but we can't afford to keep a guy who is hurt every time he touches the ball, just can't do it. Look who we were forced to play at WR last week. You can't have guys that are so injury prone taking up spots, much less two of them (Harvin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Unlike some, I don't consider Goodwin a complete bust because when he has been able to get on the field, he has produced reasonably well and opens things up for the offense. However, his selection in the third round encapsulates everything that has been wrong with the Bills' front office for the past 20 years. Goodwin is a very talented athlete, but had not been highly productive at Texas, despite having a few big games. At the time the Bills picked Goodwin, Markus Wheaton (WR, Oregon State) was still on the board. Wheaton is a little bigger than Goodwin and only marginally slower (He once beat D'Anthony Thomas in the 100 yard dash in a PAC 12 track meet.) The difference is that Wheaton was a tremendously productive WR as a three-year starter at Oregon State against the highest level of competition, and he is tough as nails, AFIK never missing a game in college. But the Bills decided to outsmart themselves and picked a flashy athlete who they thought had a higher upside over a fabulously productive FOOTBALL PLAYER. The Steelers selected Wheaton with the very next selection. He is their slot receiver and, as in college, he has been highly productive--750 yards receiving this year, 5 TDs and averages over 17 YPC. If the Steelers didn't have Martavis Bryant as their number 2 guy, Wheaton's numbers would look even better. Another missed opportunity. Not just Wheaton, there were a lot of good players who were left when the Bills drafted Goodwin. It gets even worse when you look a bit further back and see who was there when we drafted Graham. As other posters have said, Whaley may have been in the "Kirk Chair" but I think Goodwin is a major argument that Nix still had major input into building the 2013 draft board. Nix had a pattern of over-valuing speed (Goodwin, Graham, Spiller) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Marquise Goodwin returns to track with world No. 2 long jump mark http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/22/bills-wr-marquise-goodwin-returns-track-world-no-2-long-jump-mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Great character, great athleticism. The most injury prone player I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Great character, great athleticism. The most injury prone player I have ever seen. Roscoe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Aside from not really becoming much of a factor for the Bills, I must say I'm impressed. #2 in the world? I'm not counting on him on this team really at all so - I am hoping to root for him at the olympics. The NFL didn't work out but he seems like a good person and obviously a very gifted athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Aside from not really becoming much of a factor for the Bills, I must say I'm impressed. #2 in the world? I'm not counting on him on this team really at all so - I am hoping to root for him at the olympics. The NFL didn't work out but he seems like a good person and obviously a very gifted athlete. Yolo, I think that 7.9 m jump is #2 in the world *this year*, meaning 2016, and the year is very young. So not that impressive, but.. The gold medalist at the 2015 world championships, a Brit, jumped 8.4 m. Goodwin's P.B, jump at the 2012 US Olympic trials was 8.33 m, and he won a silver medal at the 2015 Pan Am games with 8.27 m, which would have put him 2nd at the 2015 Worlds. So at his best, Goodwin is still one of the top jumpers in the world. I still think he needs to make up his mind. Football, or Track. Either or, not Both. For football, he should be refiining his catching abilities a la Larry Fitzgerald and studying how to get off the line and avoid being jammed, possibly bulking up his upper body a bit. For track, he needs to take a step to rise to the top. He's close, but not consistently. The $2M the Bills have paid him, well-invested, ought to keep his sister cared for and allow him to pursue his track career without financial worries. Edited January 23, 2016 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I was criticized for saying this before, but IMHO Marquise should do One Thing Well. At a lower level, kids can and should pursue multiple interests. But when one gets to the elite level, one is competing with guys who are all-in, giving 100% 100% of the time. In this day and age, it usually doesn't work out. As it stands, Marquise current level of dedication to football is not-quite-quite. His hands aren't where they need to be, his route running is improved but not all there, he can get jammed on the line too easily. He needs to take a step. He may need to carry a bit more muscle bulk. He may need a training regime in the off-season that is more focused on football. As it stands, Marquise is just short of competitive at the World level on the long jump. Getting injured every football season can not be helping him. And the training to take a step as a WR may not be the training he needs to take a step as an elite long jumper Pick a sport and focus. "All it Takes is All You Got". Or maybe more than you got, but give it all you got and see. I honestly don't think Goodwin has the frame to carry much more bulk...he has a slight build... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 @mikerodak Bills WR Marquise Goodwin says he will try to qualify for summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. If he makes it, he will discuss with team possibility of missing time in training camp. Wonder if he's even back. I forgot about him. And I like the guy. eh, whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 As a track coach and former college track athlete, many of my kids are football players and most of my sprinter and jumper teammates were football players as well. The offseason training for football is very similar training to what track workouts are for sprinters, with a bit more focus of lifting. So in theory, it is entirely possible for an NFL player to compete in a few meets at a high level while maintaining his NFL fitness and skill work. That said, the athletic body can only tolerate so much high intensity wear and tear in a calendar year. So, that explains why Flash is broken by the second practice of camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Roscoe? I think Goodwin is even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Who is Goodwin? When did we sign him? Edited January 23, 2016 by fredex22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbzh2 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 He's done nothing all these years to earn his keep with the team. He should have been cut his second year. He likes the NFL money, but not the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 @mikerodak Bills WR Marquise Goodwin says he will try to qualify for summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. If he makes it, he will discuss with team possibility of missing time in training camp. Wonder if he's even back. I forgot about him. And I like the guy. I do too, YoloinOhiio, he is a speedy-good deep threat. Hope he gets back in there and stays healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'd be shocked if he's on the team next year. Good luck in Rio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I do too, YoloinOhiio, he is a speedy-good deep threat. Hope he gets back in there and stays healthy A guy is only a deep threat if he can catch the ball and hang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 We need to help him by cutting him so he can drop football completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 If he stumbles on a hurdle, he'll be paralyzed from eyes down. (not even neck down. you gotta go higher with this guy) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yolo, I think that 7.9 m jump is #2 in the world *this year*, meaning 2016, and the year is very young. So not that impressive, but.. The gold medalist at the 2015 world championships, a Brit, jumped 8.4 m. Goodwin's P.B, jump at the 2012 US Olympic trials was 8.33 m, and he won a silver medal at the 2015 Pan Am games with 8.27 m, which would have put him 2nd at the 2015 Worlds. So at his best, Goodwin is still one of the top jumpers in the world. I still think he needs to make up his mind. Football, or Track. Either or, not Both. For football, he should be refiining his catching abilities a la Larry Fitzgerald and studying how to get off the line and avoid being jammed, possibly bulking up his upper body a bit. For track, he needs to take a step to rise to the top. He's close, but not consistently. The $2M the Bills have paid him, well-invested, ought to keep his sister cared for and allow him to pursue his track career without financial worries. i'm sure you know this, but he's only able to stay in track because the long jump has become such a weak event. it's a long way from the days of powell and lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 i'm sure you know this, but he's only able to stay in track because the long jump has become such a weak event. it's a long way from the days of powell and lewis. It is true. I can't think of another event where the world records are so far back in the past. Any idea why? Better drug tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It is true. I can't think of another event where the world records are so far back in the past. Any idea why? Better drug tests? less competition, less focus, it's boring. the pole vault is more alluring, for example. anyone i knew in college - which was only 4 that were any decent - that did long jump all came from canada, oddly. from 3 different MAC schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It is true. I can't think of another event where the world records are so far back in the past. Any idea why? Better drug tests? Biggest reason is that the best jumpers are generally the best sprinters, and few of them attempt that double any more. The training is so focused and specialized it's just really hard to do both. And of course, there is no money/glamour at all in the horizontal jumps compared to sprinting. The best kids give it up early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Biggest reason is that the best jumpers are generally the best sprinters, and few of them attempt that double any more. The training is so focused and specialized it's just really hard to do both. And of course, there is no money/glamour at all in the horizontal jumps compared to sprinting. The best kids give it up early. So the training is so specialized now it's hard to both sprint and jump, but Goodwin is trying to play WR and jump? We really SHOULD help him out by cutting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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