Buffalo Beeeews Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Fair to say with basically no offensive weapons that we can bracket Gronk? Not necessarily. I wish that were the case, but Amendola has the potential to be just as versatile and deadly as Edelman. The short, underneath stuff has and will continue to be our Achilles heel until we find a way to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I banged the drum all week before the first matchup and I will again now - Let Gilmore, our most physical cover guy, match up on Gronk. Will he be able to take him out of the game? No. But he has a better shot of holding him in check than a linebacker or Rambo / Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I like our chances. Especially if we do what we should have done in the first matchup -- what the Giants did. Tight man to man coverage while trying to get as much pressure as possible on the QB and good fundamental tackling to limit YAC. I'm not very worried about our offense getting points on the board as long as they don't screw anything up too badly. Â However, after we win Monday night I fear a letdown against KC and if I had to choose one win over the other I think beating KC is more important. I hate looking ahead anyway so I won't anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Part of me is saying to treat this as a bye week- rest the starters and make a playoff push the rest of the season. Nobody gets hurt. It will never happen but has some merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If the Bills win, I will have my camera mounted on a tripod to video the monkeys flying out of my butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Well I for one will be in a very happy and elated mood for a long, long time when The Bills beat those cheating bastages from New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Its the first time in years that I wont be sucked into the hype and possibilities. Â They will lose by 30 points. Just go check Pats home record since Brady is at the helm. Bills have absolutely 0 chance. Â Guys, please dont get up for this game as the letdown will be just like week 2. ( and the last 15 years ) Edited November 17, 2015 by fredex22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Is someone is smoking at the Buffalo News Desk?  Bills may shock world against the Patriots [1:58 AM]Buffalo News reports: 'Here are six reasons why the Bills could shock the world next Monday...   Or they are reading posts here ...  After the Patriots remained unbeaten with a remarkable 27-26 win over the Giants on Sunday night, there was some predictable whining by Bills fans. The Pats were lucky. They got the calls from the officials. They probably cheated in some unspecific fashion.  But Buffalo fans should have been happy to see New England win. The Pats haven’t lost two in a row in more than three years. Imagine how motivated they would have been coming off a loss. It’ll be a much more dramatic setting when the Bills play them Monday night in Foxborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'd be a happy man if the NE Ps lost the rest of their games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If the Bills win, I will have my camera mounted on a tripod to video the monkeys flying out of my butt. Â That is going to hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 Its the first time in years that I wont be sucked into the hype and possibilities. Â They will lose by 30 points. Just go check Pats home record since Brady is at the helm. Bills have absolutely 0 chance. Â Guys, please dont get up for this game as the letdown will be just like week 2. ( and the last 15 years ) Dont tell me what to do! I do what I want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Its the first time in years that I wont be sucked into the hype and possibilities. Â They will lose by 30 points. Just go check Pats home record since Brady is at the helm. Bills have absolutely 0 chance. Â Guys, please dont get up for this game as the letdown will be just like week 2. ( and the last 15 years ) Last Cheatriots Home game loss - 2014 Week 17 to the Buffalo Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Last Cheatriots Home game loss - 2014 Week 17 to the Buffalo Bills Oh yes, I remember that meaningless game where we were on the outside of the playoffs and Brady was watching from the sidelines resting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I am saying it now - there is no "If". I am expecting the Bills to win this match-up. I am not worried about jinxing them. The Pats should have gotten beat by the Giants and the Bills will close the deal. Go Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If we win TT and Rex are pretty secure for at least the next 3 years at their spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Oh yes, I remember that meaningless game where we were on the outside of the playoffs and Brady was watching from the sidelines resting! For the second half. I remember him looking frustrated in the first half though! (I know both sides were playing without some key pieces) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 The Over/Under on bogus calls against us to extend Pats drives is 3. I've got the over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinger17 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I don't expect the Bills to beat the *Pats on Monday. Could it happen, sure. Is it extremely unlikely, absolutely. the *Pats are one of the top teams in the league year after year. The Bills have been one of the worst. Expecting the Bills to go on the road and win against the *Pats is not smart. It will be interesting to see what kind of game plan Rex puts in against the Pats since the game plan he used in game 1 was terrible. But I'm not getting all worked up if they lose. We can afford two losses out of these 7 games. This is probably 1 of those 2. I don't expect the Bills to win Monday night either,but they are not by far the worst team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Oh yes, I remember that meaningless game where we were on the outside of the playoffs and Brady was watching from the sidelines resting! He sat the 2nd half. The Bills did have the lead heading into the half and the Bills were missing some key personel as well. I have no clue if they would have won if Brady didnt get sat but its not a given that they would have lost. At the end of the day a win is a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 It would make up the Jacksonville loss  this is a phenomenal post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Pretty simple. We beat the Cheaters we will establish something that has been missing from this team for a while. Consistency. The defense comes around and does their job and the offense moves the ball and does their job and hangs enough points to win. I will begin to believe the hype. That will make 3 games in a row and two big road division games. I don't know if there will anybody out there that could not label the Bills a contender. It's a big if but I think they can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If we win I promise to put my "Fire Rex Ryan" sig away for the time being. Hell, if we break the Pats streak on their home field in front of the world in prime time I will nominate Rex for a Sainthood. Saint Doug? Pah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 i will start watching again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 If the Bills win, I will have my camera mounted on a tripod to video the monkeys flying out of my butt. I have only heard stories of such. Looking forward to the Event. Like chasing Twisters I bet? If we win I promise to put my "Fire Rex Ryan" sig away for the time being. Hell, if we break the Pats streak on their home field in front of the world in prime time I will nominate Rex for a Sainthood. Saint Doug? Pah. and i thought it said Free Rex Ryan. Â fire rex ryan seems a little harsh so soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Tuesday is going to be so much fun when reality returns Yes some posters seem to be a lot more happy after losses and disappear after wins. Â I predict half of the posters will be predicting we don't win another game all year and demanding Rex be fired or burned at the stake. So what is different from what they post now? Â Oh yes, I remember that meaningless game where we were on the outside of the playoffs and Brady was watching from the sidelines resting! Yes the game where we were winning at half time. Both you and media neglect to mention that part, good luck in joining the Buffalo opposition press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) I'm pretty confident we're going to win. Â No. I'm not drunk. Â Â The 2 biggest weaknesses to our Defense are gone. We can't cover RBs or slot WRs. Both threats on NE are gone. We double Gronk all night and let our corners shutdown LaFell. Â This is on Tyrod and the O. Get 27 points and we'll win. Their defense can be exploited. We just ran the ball down the Jets throats. Â I'm extremely confident and excited about what a win in New England is going to mean for this team. Â Edited November 18, 2015 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Â Unless they plan on ending Brady's season, there's ZERO chance they win. They need to dirty hit him EVERY single play. No they don't. Stop committing critical penalties; stop giving great field position to Brady. We will keep the game close and who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Pretty simple. We beat the Cheaters we will establish something that has been missing from this team for a while. Consistency. The defense comes around and does their job and the offense moves the ball and does their job and hangs enough points to win. I will begin to believe the hype. That will make 3 games in a row and two big road division games. I don't know if there will anybody out there that could not label the Bills a contender. It's a big if but I think they can do it. Reading several national news outlets, you come away with the feeling that these guys want the Bills to succeed and become a national level talking point. THey see enough media material on this team starting from Rex that they want to cover us....The bills will explode the market if they do win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 1. Blitz repeatedly up the middle - never from the outside 2. Bracket Gronk with Gilmore and Graham. If Amendola and the rest of their JV WR's beat Darby, Rambo, McKelvin then there is no hope. 3. About five times, just rush two guys from the same side of the line and drop 9. I'm serious. Send a rested Mario and Dareus against Center and Guard or a rested Mario and Hughes against G and T. Double Gronk and play 5 wide zones 3-7 yards off the ball. The line won't know what to do. It may take time but one of those guys will get free. Either Brady gets inpatient and throws into coverage or he sits back there until one of those guys breaks through. 4. Let TT win the game not just manage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 What IF we win. Â well it won't mean a thing if you don't follow it up with other wins. Win 5 of the last 7 and you are guaranteed to be in the playoff field. It's doesn't matter who you get those 5 wins against, but you need 5. Now 4 wins might get you in but getting only 4 leaves potential complications. Anything less than that will leave you short of the stated goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 1. Blitz repeatedly up the middle - never from the outside 2. Bracket Gronk with Gilmore and Graham. If Amendola and the rest of their JV WR's beat Darby, Rambo, McKelvin then there is no hope. 3. About five times, just rush two guys from the same side of the line and drop 9. I'm serious. Send a rested Mario and Dareus against Center and Guard or a rested Mario and Hughes against G and T. Double Gronk and play 5 wide zones 3-7 yards off the ball. The line won't know what to do. It may take time but one of those guys will get free. Either Brady gets inpatient and throws into coverage or he sits back there until one of those guys breaks through. 4. Let TT win the game not just manage it. Â I like. Especially number 2. With no Lewis and no Edelman it becomes even more vital that we do not let Gronk beat us. I'll take my chances vs the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 If the Bills line stop killing drives with penalties I think we'll win. The D is improving and I think they'll bring the pressure. Brady showed that he is capable of mistakes when the pressure comes and The bills offence is making relatively few mistakes. Bills 24 pats 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Â I like. Especially number 2. With no Lewis and no Edelman it becomes even more vital that we do not let Gronk beat us. I'll take my chances vs the rest. Last year Lafell killed us with 2 TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Last year Lafell killed us with 2 TDs. I know I remember. Our D played its worst half of the year 2nd half at home to New England last year. Â If he is their number 1 target on Monday I give us a chance to win that game. If we let Gronk beat us that is just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I know I remember. Our D played its worst half of the year 2nd half at home to New England last year.  If he is their number 1 target on Monday I give us a chance to win that game. If we let Gronk beat us that is just dumb. how was that different than the game this season? 451 passing yards !!!! FWIW The Cheatriots had almost as many penalties as Buffalo had  11-119** to 14-140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 how was that different than the game this season? 451 passing yards !!!! FWIW The Cheatriots had almost as many penalties as Buffalo had  11-119** to 14-140  Oh we sucked against them this year too, no doubt. But Lewis and Edelman were just short of 200 yards of that. Gronk was 113. The former two are missing - so stop Gronk! If they beat you with LeFell and Amendola and Dobson so be it. But make them do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 tone sure doesn't carry over on the boards now does it. Â They looked like they were doing a decent job of containment but the yards kept piling up. Â Bump the b-tards at the LOS and knock them off their rhythm. Gilmore better play them closer and not give them the 10 yard buffer! Â If they do that, then Brady has to hold the ball longer to make his reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The Pats*** offense did just fine last week without Edelman or Lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Edelman had become such a critical component to the Patriot's offense that it's difficult to say how significantly his injury will impact on them. In any case, it's hard to bet against Brady and Belichek. They always seem to find a way to win despite injuries. But if we finally turn on the blitz, all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 In my breaking this game down I think Brady will miss WR Julian Edleman, and RB Dion Lewis a LOT! Â But the Patriots also have WR Danny Amandola who is used to playing in that Wess Welker / Edleman type of roll. They also have WR's Brandon Lafell & Aaron Dobson who have both been quiet in the offense this year because Brady would throw so often to those two that are now out injured. Â Then there is the unquestionable best tight end in today's game in Rob Gronkowski who no team has been able to stop, and also they have TE Scott Chandler who they use in the red zone for another big target. The Patriots now have LeGarrette Blount at the starting RB position who is a hammer of a RB much the same way the Bills Karlos Williams has been for Buffalo. Â The biggest loss to the Patriots in terms of a player is probably RB Dion Lewis who was so adept at running the ball, and catching passes out of the backfield like a wide receiver. Â After only 9 games Tom Brady is currently the leading yardage passer in the league with 3,043 yards, and 24 TD's. The Patriots currently are fielding the #2 team in the NFL in total offense, and they are the #3 passing team in the league. Â This game will be about slowing down Brady by getting pressure on him, and now allowing him to get into a solid rhythm. It will also be about protecting Tyrod Taylor who was sacked 8 times in the first game. But then we all know what happens when Brady gets into a funk, and has difficulty throwing it at all. Belichick will start pounding the rock to help stabilize Brady, and once the defense then works on stopping the run then Brady starts throwing again. Â Â The Bills played a soft cover defense in the first game unlike any team I've even seen coached by Rex Ryan. He was having the Bills DB's play ten yards off the line of scrimmage while having the front four play a passive aggressive style with the ends rushing, and DT's in gap control. The Bills had Jerry Hughes dropping into pass coverage on Gronkowski at times, and also had Kyle Williams dropping back to cover an area like in a zone blitz scheme. When this happened the Bills would then at times only rush with three. Brady then scorched the Bills secondary to the record setting tune of 466 yards passing allowed because of that craptastic Ryan scheme. Â I was so used to seeing the Jets run that overload Blitz scheme under Pettine where he would always send one more then the offense had blocking to get pressure on the QB. This years defensive scheme is a total turnaround from that scheme, and is currently 30th in QB hurries, 29th in sacks, and sack percentage. Â The Buffalo Bills are currently fielding the 16th best defense in yardage, 18th against the pass, 8th against the run, 15th in scoring allowed. What the Bills defense has been good at is getting turnovers, and are currently 6th in the league with a +5 turnover differential. The Bills are also #3 in "toxic differential" which means Its not merely good enough to avoid turning the ball over, you need to generate big offensive plays as well. The holy grail is having a double positive, in other words a team is winning the turnover differential AND the explosive play differential. That stat was created by ex Raven HC Brian Billick. This game for the Buffalo Bills will be like climbing Mt Everest without oxygen. Meaning it can be done, but its an almost impossible task even on a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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