dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft. He's a #2 guy. I'd take another WR fairly high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 He's a #2 guy. I'd take another WR fairly high. But what does that even mean? Is he really even a #2 guy? He seems to be like...a half-notch above Easley (which makes him depth and someone who should learn special teams). Is he supposed to be in the slot and now he's just failing outside? I mean...I guess I don't really know what a #2 guy is but he seems like a guy who is a non-factor and that doesn't sound like a #2 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatplow Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft. Here you go.... Think of him as a good blocker He's straight up blown a couple people up out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 But what does that even mean? Is he really even a #2 guy? He seems to be like...a half-notch above Easley (which makes him depth and someone who should learn special teams). Is he supposed to be in the slot and now he's just failing outside? I mean...I guess I don't really know what a #2 guy is but he seems like a guy who is a non-factor and that doesn't sound like a #2 to me. Well we threw the ball 12 times last game, so the #2 WR not getting involved too much isn't that rare considering the circumstances. He's not a "half-notch" above Easley. That's just crazy talk. He's a guy who can hurt you if you don't respect him/worry too much about our #1 WR. I'd still take another WR high because injuries happen, and 3 WR's is basically the base offensive formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I love Bob Woods. Like really love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Woods is a good receiver. Id hate to lose him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I love Bob Woods. Like really love him. That's me too though, I used to love Bob Woods. Really love him. Then the idea of him being some reliable and awesome young counterpart to Sammy faded and now I ... well I don't know what to think anymore. I was just sitting here thinking about the passing game and had the feeling like I won't be excited about the WRs next year unless it has a new #2 that is not on the roster right now. Edited November 10, 2015 by Rex'sOffense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haplo848 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Here you go.... Think of him as a good blocker He's straight up blown a couple people up out there. So we're not using phrasing any more? Edited November 10, 2015 by Haplo848 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I don't think he's built a rapport with Tyrod at all yet. Not sure why. Hope it gets sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) That's me too though, I used to love Bob Woods. Really love him. Then the idea of him being some reliable and awesome young counterpart to Sammy faded and now I ... well I don't know what to think anymore. I was just sitting here thinking about the passing game and had the feeling like I won't be excited about the WRs next year unless it has a new #2 that is not on the roster right now. Roman needs one great WR and a great TE. Like Boldin and Vernon Davis. Then an awesome RB. Like Gore. A #2 WR is gonna have inconsistent numbers in this system. Did you draft him in fantasy and are now disappointed? Edited November 10, 2015 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 So we're not using phrasing any more? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft. It's really hard to judge him but what the Bills really need is a guy who is always open by virtue of his size and catch radius....like Brandon Marshall. If they got healthy and had Marshall they could give up 400 yards on defense every week and still win handily. Had they not traded for Cassel they probably get Marshall. I thought the Bills made some hasty, poor decisions early in the offseason but they deserve credit for identifying and trying to acquire some guys who it appears WOULD have helped them....guys like Marshall, David Harris, La'el Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 So we're not using phrasing any more? Well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 That's me too though, I used to love Bob Woods. Really love him. Then the idea of him being some reliable and awesome young counterpart to Sammy faded and now I ... well I don't know what to think anymore. I was just sitting here thinking about the passing game and had the feeling like I won't be excited about the WRs next year unless it has a new #2 that is not on the roster right now. he had 9 catches and a TD just 2 games ago and that was with EJ throwing to him. He's been reliable and productive in his role despite the QB carousel since his rookie year. Are you just upset about the end around? It didn't go anywhere because Felton missed his block and he couldn't ... Go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I don't think he's built a rapport with Tyrod at all yet. Not sure why. Hope it gets sorted. it does seem that way. I like him and hope he gets a shot at resigning. his day will come. this O needs some stability. Now that guys are getting healthy he should find his niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatplow Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 So we're not using phrasing any more? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) he had 9 catches and a TD just 2 games ago and that was with EJ throwing to him. He's been reliable and productive in his role despite the QB carousel since his rookie year. Are you just upset about the end around? It didn't go anywhere because Felton missed his block and he couldn't ... Go anywhere. Percy and Sammy have been hurt pretty consistently so he's had every opportunity and he's had 2 ok games...(1) 60 yrds and a TD while the Pats were curb stomping us, and (2) a solid 84 yrds on 9 catches and a TD in the freak show that was EJ coming back against the Jags in London. It's not reality to suggest Bob has been anything that numbers can defend. He's halfway through his 3rd season and yet he's never been a catches guy, or a yards guy, or a touchdown guy. Someone said he's a blocking guy? Ok...IDK maybe I've seen him throw some good blocks. I guess his defense is that he's played with EJ and now is in Roman's system which isn't WR2 friendly (point guy made above)? I mean...he just isn't showing me anything this year. I have to turn on Woods at some point and it's shaping up to be next offseason the way things are going. I would like to be swayed but his one big day on a crazy London game v. the jags while EJ was out their flailing in desperation to overcome bouts of insanity isn't going to do it on its own. Edited November 10, 2015 by Rex'sOffense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Robert Woods is a honeybadger, in on kick off and return, throwing crackback blocks inside on much bigger guys on offense. His blocking is above average against dbs. All that and he can produce at whatever level the offense needs him to. Every time he's been featured, he's produced. Edited November 10, 2015 by NorCalBillsSabres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Percy and Sammy have been hurt pretty consistently so he's had every opportunity and he's had 2 ok games...(1) 60 yrds and a TD while the Pats were curb stomping us, and (2) a solid 84 yrds on 9 catches and a TD in the freak show that was EJ coming back against the Jags in London. It's not reality to suggest Bob has been anything that numbers can defend. He's halfway through his 3rd season and yet he's never been a catches guy, or a yards guy, or a touchdown guy. Someone said he's a blocking guy? Ok...IDK maybe I've seen him throw some good blocks. I guess his defense is that he's played with EJ and now is in Roman's system which isn't WR2 friendly (point guy made above)? I mean...he just isn't showing me anything this year. I have to turn on Woods at some point and it's shaping up to be next offseason the way things are going. I would like to be swayed but his one big day on a crazy London game v. the jags while EJ was out their flailing in desperation to overcome bouts of insanity isn't going to do it on its own. Are you watching the tape or the stat sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think he is being under utilized and when free agent another team will sign him thinking he can do a lot more with better offense. I also think he needs to watch his temper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJuice Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Percy and Sammy have been hurt pretty consistently so he's had every opportunity and he's had 2 ok games...(1) 60 yrds and a TD while the Pats were curb stomping us, and (2) a solid 84 yrds on 9 catches and a TD in the freak show that was EJ coming back against the Jags in London. It's not reality to suggest Bob has been anything that numbers can defend. He's halfway through his 3rd season and yet he's never been a catches guy, or a yards guy, or a touchdown guy. Someone said he's a blocking guy? Ok...IDK maybe I've seen him throw some good blocks. I guess his defense is that he's played with EJ and now is in Roman's system which isn't WR2 friendly (point guy made above)? I mean...he just isn't showing me anything this year. I have to turn on Woods at some point and it's shaping up to be next offseason the way things are going. I would like to be swayed but his one big day on a crazy London game v. the jags while EJ was out their flailing in desperation to overcome bouts of insanity isn't going to do it on its own. Great post. "Flailing" LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Are you watching the tape or the stat sheet? Watching "the tape?" No, are you? I watch the TV broadcast though, he is rarely featured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Watching "the tape?" No, are you? I watch the TV broadcast though, he is rarely featured. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Robert Woods could have burned his man every play last week, and you wouldn't know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 I guess what I'm trying to say is that Robert Woods could have burned his man every play last week, and you wouldn't know it. And what I'm saying is, that could be true...but it is more likely that if Robert Woods was consistently wide open all day and nobody ever threw him the ball I would know about it. I don't have the coaches tape and I don't study Woods...but I consume a lot of Bills media. Nobody even talks about him, he is rarely even a topic for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) And what I'm saying is, that could be true...but it is more likely that if Robert Woods was consistently wide open all day and nobody ever threw him the ball I would know about it. I don't have the coaches tape and I don't study Woods...but I consume a lot of Bills media. Nobody even talks about him, he is rarely even a topic for discussion. How? We threw the ball 12 times, and most of them went to our best WR. Edited November 10, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 How? Like I said through osmosis. Bills radio, articles, this place, some random PFF statistic that I hear....I'm not saying I would necessarily know what happened last week but if it were a consistent thing with him it is likely that, with the amount of NFL/Bills stuff I get, I would have heard some good stuff about Woods. I never hear anything at all about Robert Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 If you look at the guy last year he was very much a part of the offense, i don't think this scheme fits him as well . He is a great team guy, good hands, dependable,good blocker, & durable for the most part . I think he is a good number 2 WR just wish they would target him more . I think if given the chance to hit the FA market though he will be gone because he want s to be more involved in the offense & may find that some where else . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I really noticed his lack of speed on that end of around. Woods needs to step up, I've been pretty disappointed with him so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Woods is a good receiver who rarely sees the ball. He's also a good blocker. Even as a number 2 receiver, he's underused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Somewhere between 3 & 4 on a team with high quality WR corp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 That's me too though, I used to love Bob Woods. Really love him. Then the idea of him being some reliable and awesome young counterpart to Sammy faded and now I ... well I don't know what to think anymore. I was just sitting here thinking about the passing game and had the feeling like I won't be excited about the WRs next year unless it has a new #2 that is not on the roster right now. what changed for you? He has been playing the same way he always has. We are just throwing the ball less. Can't blame the receiver when he's open and the ball goes elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Robert Woods is a good #2/3 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 He's fine. A good player, but nothing special. Not particularly big or fast, an okay but not great athlete for the position, hands are fine, and allegedly he's a good route runner. (I can't pretend to know anywhere near enough about route running to evaluate anyone on that front.) Good blocker in the run game, which is nice to have, but not typically how WRs make their money. Also a bit of a hothead, which I'm not a big fan of. I think you could do a lot better as a #2 WR, but you could also do worse, and he's competent enough for a starter who's not one of the focal points of the offense.. Unless he's willing to sign dirt cheap (which would surprise me), I'd be fine with letting him walk after next year. But I wouldn't want the Bills to do anything stupid like cut or bench him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 He's not a burner, not is he terribly big. But he's a tough guy with good hands who has enough athletic ability to get open and make plays. He's also a good blocker and he fights for extra yards. You're not likely to see him in the pro-bowl, but he's a solid NFL WR who makes the team better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Watching "the tape?" No, are you? I watch the TV broadcast though, he is rarely featured. It is very difficult from our view to know what is going on downfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Completely average starter. No more, no less. If he was on the Rams or the Jaguars, more than a few Bills fans wouldn't register who he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 One of the more outlandish statements I've ever seen on this website was last week when, in a thread also devoted to Woods, a prominent poster said that he would rank his order of re-signing priorities: 1. Gilmore, 2. Woods, 3. Bradham and 4. Glenn. How about 1. Gilmore, 1a. Glenn... hold on I gotta run to the grocery store, I'll be back in an hour so... oh yeah, Bradham/Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I like Robert and have since his 1st game. He catches nearly everything thrown at him -though, admittedly, that's not much. I agree he isn't being utilized nearly enough in Roman's offense, but that may change Thursday night, as Revis will likely shadow Sammy all game. I think he'd be best used as a short route runner ala Welker in NE/Amendola. I also think that's a pattern Roman should consider, given Tyrod -and EJ to a lesser extent, are more comfortable throwing underneath. His temper has been an issue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 A lot of our biggest plays on Sunday were outside runs behind Woods. He made the ~50yd Shady TD possible. Also threw a great block on a Tryod scramble against the Titans that lead to a TD. He's a great receiver to have in a run-first offense because of his block ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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