Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, if so please delete. Our starting QB sucked today. He was slow to get the ball out, he was poor with his decision making, and he was unable to decide what to do quickly. Major fail from Taylor and the OL. Glenn got soundly beaten by Jones. If your QB can't make up his mind and your OL can't protect you are out of the conversation. We deserve any ridicule we get. IdiotS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I will try to look past his four touchdowns to evaluate your take...... naaaa.....cant do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He was definitely a deer in the headlight today. Great observation. Ignore the homers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 TT is not a starting caliber QB. He may grow into it but he has A LOT of growing to do for it to happen. Let me be the first to publicly express my displeasure with the fact that EJ didn't dress again. I fervently believe EJ wouldn't have thrown as many bad balls, as many picks and he would have been able to see over the line and push the ball down field in a more aggressive fashion. All we got was Capt. Checkdown the sequel for vast swaths of this game coupled with an inability to climb the pocket. Will we beat teams with TT, probably. I'm just not sure he can grow enough by the end of this season to make it worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He was definitely a deer in the headlight today. Great observation. Ignore the homers! Deer dont throw 3 tds and run for another..... but.....this is to be expected from you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 TT is not a starting caliber QB. He may grow into it but he has A LOT of growing to do for it to happen. Let me be the first to publicly express my displeasure with the fact that EJ didn't dress again. I fervently believe EJ wouldn't have thrown as many bad balls, as many picks and he would have been able to see over the line and push the ball down field in a more aggressive fashion. All we got was Capt. Checkdown the sequel for vast swaths of this game coupled with an inability to climb the pocket. Will we beat teams with TT, probably. I'm just not sure he can grow enough by the end of this season to make it worth it. Give it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Hopefully Doug Whaley is smarter than the knee-jerk brigade. Personally I'm sold on Taylor. So he had a tough day against the Hoodie? Like that never happens. He can make plays. Edited September 21, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) After the first drive, TT was awful, but so was the offensive play calling. The only guy that showed up on offense today was LeShady. But full marks to Tyrod for not quitting in the 4th quarter and bringing the Bills back. Not too down on Tyrod, the Hoodie undressed him a bit today. I blame Roman more, he should have had an offensive answer once TT started getting abused in there. Edited September 21, 2015 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, if so please delete. Our starting QB sucked today. He was slow to get the ball out, he was poor with his decision making, and he was unable to decide what to do quickly. Major fail from Taylor and the OL. Glenn got soundly beaten by Jones. If your QB can't make up his mind and your OL can't protect you are out of the conversation. We deserve any ridicule we get. IdiotS. I'm happy with Taylor. Not happy with McCoy, Watkins and the offensive line. Hopefully Doug Whaley is smarter than the knee-jerk brigade. Personally I'm sold on Taylor. So he had a tough day against the goodies, like that never happens. He can make plays. I'm still sold on Taylor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He did suck! I mean he couldn't even get the measly 50 points we needed to win! This one's on TT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 John - I love your posts and your takes as a rational poster. What plays/drives, in your opinion, before the Pats were up 33-13, did Taylor execute well? Specifically, I'm looking for drives/plays in Q1, 2, and 3 where he executed and put his team in position to win or compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmsbills Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Unfortunately - I think we saw the real Tyrod today. He was nothing at VaTech. Did nothing at Baltimore and did nothing today. I hope I am wrong- but I think Tyrod played over his head in limited action in pre season and against the Colts last week. He looked like a third string QB when it counted for mos of the game today. Maybe we can blame it on the coaching and game plan but if was bad today. Let's see what happens next week in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'm happy with Taylor. Not happy with McCoy, Watkins and the offensive line. McCoy was awesome today. 5.9 per rush, what else do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He wasn't good but had no help from greg roman and his o line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, if so please delete. Our starting QB sucked today. He was slow to get the ball out, he was poor with his decision making, and he was unable to decide what to do quickly. Major fail from Taylor and the OL. Glenn got soundly beaten by Jones. If your QB can't make up his mind and your OL can't protect you are out of the conversation. We deserve any ridicule we get. IdiotS. No our offensive line sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 TT is not a starting caliber QB. He may grow into it but he has A LOT of growing to do for it to happen. Let me be the first to publicly express my displeasure with the fact that EJ didn't dress again. I fervently believe EJ wouldn't have thrown as many bad balls, as many picks and he would have been able to see over the line and push the ball down field in a more aggressive fashion. All we got was Capt. Checkdown the sequel for vast swaths of this game coupled with an inability to climb the pocket. Will we beat teams with TT, probably. I'm just not sure he can grow enough by the end of this season to make it worth it. Ahh. I see the EJ apologists are coming out of the wood work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hopefully Doug Whaley is smarter than the knee-jerk brigade. Personally I'm sold on Taylor. So he had a tough day against the Hoodia? Like that never happens. He can make plays. Why Promo? What sold you? I'm not saying replace him, but he held the ball WAY to long and was sacked eight, nine times? Is that what we are accepting these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 So what are all the trolls doing trying to pat each other on the back in threads now? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He looked confused at times and made some poor decisions, but he did way more good than bad. Not a surprise for a QB with limited experience playing against Belichick. He made some excellent throws late in the game to keep us in it. If our D makes a stop with 3 minutes to go, we have a chance to win the game. Can't ask for more from the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) After the first drive, TT was awful, but so was the offensive play calling. The only guy that showed up on offense today was LeShady. But full marks to Tyrod for not quitting in the 4th quarter and bringing the Bills back. If Rex hadn't lost faith in Carp and started chasing the points, all we would have needed was a FG to tie. That may have changed the end of the game. Not too down on Tyrod, the Hoodie undressed him a bit today. I blame Roman more, he should have had an offensive answer once TT started getting abused in there. I agree the play calling sucked at times. clearly but I don't believe our receivers were that covered calling for dump off after dump off. He was in there trying to play from the pocket which he clearly is uncomfortable doing. And , if he keeps the chains moving the Pats don't put us that deep in a hole. One hand washes the other. The Pats are a better team. Edited September 21, 2015 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Taylor was shaky at first and finished strong. Our offense put up 32. Offensive gameplan was garbage. Defense got us in a hole early. Penalties. O-line was crap. Edited September 21, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Ahh. I see the EJ apologists are coming out of the wood work. Hey Champ - what plays did our QB make in Q1, 2, and 3 to help our team win? What does Taylor's crappy play have to do with EJ Freaking Manuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He looked confused at times and made some poor decisions, but he did way more good than bad. Not a surprise for a QB with limited experience playing against Belichick. He made some excellent throws late in the game to keep us in it. If our D makes a stop with 3 minutes to go, we have a chance to win the game. Can't ask for more from the kid. Yes you can. His overthrown footballs that resulted in picks were venom to the Bills' chances of winning the game. Take care of the FN football if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hey Champ - what plays did our QB make in Q1, 2, and 3 to help our team win? What does Taylor's crappy play have to do with EJ Freaking Manuel? Why don't you ask the guy who brought up EJ Manuel, "champ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Why Promo? What sold you? I'm not saying replace him, but he held the ball WAY to long and was sacked eight, nine times? Is that what we are accepting these days? So because he held the ball too long he's a bust? Would you prefer he just chuck it up for grabs. He makes good throws. Not enough today but he did get us to within 5 after being down 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 John - I love your posts and your takes as a rational poster. What plays/drives, in your opinion, before the Pats were up 33-13, did Taylor execute well? Specifically, I'm looking for drives/plays in Q1, 2, and 3 where he executed and put his team in position to win or compete. First....let me say that I feel you might be expecting too much too soon from Tyrod Taylor - Can we keep in mind that this was his SECOND NFL start? - If you take it in the context that this was in his second NFL start and he wasnt getting a lot of help from his OL it puts it in a better prospective - Keep in mind that when your D cant stop another teams O....that has a effect on playcalling as well - QBs are not going to have strong quarters every quarter....it comes in spurts...... - Lets also keep him mind how long TT had to sit on the sideline.....because Brady was basically rolling our defense. Disrupting TT's rythum THROUGH ALL OF THAT.......TT showeed his grit by not giving up and got this team to 8 points down.....this happened with a ridiculous amount of penalities.....at least 1 interception that should not have been popped up like that...... When you put it in that prospective and not expect TT to be Tom Brady and simply a good starting NFL QB.......it takes the edge off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Taylor was shaky at first and finished strong. Our offense put up 32. Offensive gameplan was garbage. Defense got us in a hole early. Penalties. O-line was crap. Over and over Taylor held the ball. OLine was bad but a QB shOuld know his OLine sucks and react accordingly. Taylor sucked today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Tyrod should have won a shootout with Brady. I mean, it's already his second start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Ahh. I see the EJ apologists are coming out of the wood work. yeah, one post where someone wishes he dressed for the game. damn those EJ people, damn them to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) He played timid in the first half. He still is playing very conservatively, especially early. He has that "must see it first" thing going on many starters have at the beginning. That said this post just seems like spam in it's approach. "Taylor sucks". Ok, thanks for sharing.... He made some incredible plays and very well could have had a chance to complete one of the better comebacks in Bills history if Sammy makes a difficult catch. Speaking of which, not one of the 3 INT's was a direct blame the QB situation. Two high passes, both hit the entire part of both Clay and Watkins hands. Difficult catches sure, but I know a higher level NFL WR/TE expects to make those plays. If they didn't they wouldn't be in football let alone considered higher level. Taylor still threw the ball high, so shared accountability picks. The other INT came on an ill advised pass as time was running out in the first half. It was 3rd down, the Bills needed 20+ yards and 1 or 2 downs to get it in (if they converted the first). That pass never gets thrown in a normal situation. He made some fantastic plays in the 4th quarter when he seemed to just let loose and play. All in all, 2 straight weeks in which the offense has scored enough points in which we should be able to beat anybody in football. 4 total TD's from Taylor, mix of run and pass, near late game heroics. Described as a leader and scholar of the game, making his 2nd NFL start. I will take it. Edited September 21, 2015 by KzooMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Over and over Taylor held the ball. OLine was bad but a QB shOuld know his OLine sucks and react accordingly. Taylor sucked today. He held onto the ball to try to make plays. He wasn't sitting in the pocket for 6 seconds then getting sacked. Get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) What are you guys smoking?Tyrod got sacked 8 times today, threw three picks, and struggled moving the the ball at timesHE ALSO THREW FOR 3 TDS AND RAN FOR ANOTHER ONE AND AS BAD AS OUR WHOLE TEAM PLAYED HAD KEPT US ALIVE UNTIL THE VERY END. OH AND TWO OF HIS INTS WERE DEFLECTED BALLS OFF OF HIS WR'S HANDS.Taylor is by far the best quarterback the Bills have started since Doug Flutie. If you cant recognize that youre a blind moron. He is mature, composed, has a live arm that can make all the throws, he can hit the deep ball, he has awareness inside and outside of the pocket, he is accurate on the run and he has 4.4 speed that can take the top off a defense if they let him get loose.Are you out of your mind? Edited September 21, 2015 by TallskiWallski83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 John that's fine but we have a slimmer learning curve. The rest of the team is built to win RIGHT NOW. I'm not expecting him to be Brady. I'm expecting him to not take 3-5 seconds to deliver the ball. Anything over 3 isn't cool, and I counted at least 15 times where 3 was doing him a favor. Unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Over and over Taylor held the ball. OLine was bad but a QB shOuld know his OLine sucks and react accordingly. Taylor sucked today. Haha is that serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) What are you guys smoking? Tyrod got sacked 8 times today, threw three picks, and struggled moving the the ball at times HE ALSO THREW FOR 3 TDS AND RAN FOR ANOTHER ONE AND AS BAD AS OUR WHOLE TEAM PLAYED HAD KEPT US ALIVE UNTIL THE VERY END. OH AND TWO OF HIS INTS WERE DEFLECTED BALLS OFF OF HIS WR'S HANDS. Taylor is by far the best quarterback the Bills have started since Doug Flutie. If you cant recognize that youre a blind moron. The jury is out on Tyrod one way or the other. Far too soon to come to any long term conclusion. The deflected balls you attempt to absolve him from were because he overthrew open receivers (Clay and Watkins). Edited September 21, 2015 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 TT is not a starting caliber QB. He may grow into it but he has A LOT of growing to do for it to happen. Let me be the first to publicly express my displeasure with the fact that EJ didn't dress again. I fervently believe EJ wouldn't have thrown as many bad balls, as many picks and he would have been able to see over the line and push the ball down field in a more aggressive fashion. All we got was Capt. Checkdown the sequel for vast swaths of this game coupled with an inability to climb the pocket. Will we beat teams with TT, probably. I'm just not sure he can grow enough by the end of this season to make it worth it. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He's still learning. What is nice is that his legs buy him a lot more time than other new QBs get. I will say that he needs to cut down on the sacks. The picks were all flukey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He played timid in the first half. He still is playing very conservatively, especially early. He has that "must see it first" thing going on many starters have at the beginning. That said this post just seems like spam in it's approach. "Taylor sucks". Ok, thanks for sharing.... He made some incredible plays and very well could have had a chance to complete one of the better comebacks in Bills history if Sammy makes a difficult catch. Speaking of which, not one of the 3 INT's was a direct blame the QB situation. Two high passes, both hit the entire part of both Clay and Watkins hands. Difficult catches sure, but I know a higher level NFL WR/TE expects to make those plays. If they didn't they wouldn't be in football let alone considered higher level. Taylor still threw the ball high, so shared accountability picks. The other INT came on an ill advised pass as time was running out in the first half. It was 3rd down, the Bills needed 20+ yards and 1 or 2 downs to get it in (if they converted the first). That pass never gets thrown in a normal situation. He made some fantastic plays in the 4th quarter when he seemed to just let loose and play. All in all, 2 straight weeks in which the offense has scored enough points in which we should be able to beat anybody in football. 4 total TD's from Taylor, mix of run and pass, near late game heroics. Described as a leader and scholar of the game, making his 2nd NFL start. I will take it. THis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 He held onto the ball to try to make plays. He wasn't sitting in the pocket for 6 seconds then getting sacked. Get it together. So did Rob Johnson. We don't have that kind of OL. The ball needs to come out. He failed. He needs to step up his decision making. He proved today his nimble feet can't make up for poor OL play. He got dared to beat someone with his arm and he could not do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) was shaky at the start but I thought he settled down played well over all....o line was dominated. The difference will be tyrod learn lesson EJ it was the same thing over and over. Move onto Miami we rely on the D and today they were shredded- it's one game of 16 1 and 1 after Colts Pats I think we would take that before the year. Funny how we forget the good things he did while putting up 32 points - we didnt get beat 49-0 people and no it wasnt pad your stats time unless your clueless. Lastly so your comparing Tyrod to the super bowl champs with the best defensive coach in the game THATS your measuring stick? Fortunately we dont play New England 16 times nor does anyone else because they would have a tough time with them ala Luck 49-7 last year. Tell me Luck isnt a starting quarterback also - oh brother Edited September 21, 2015 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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