Dibs Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 actually if Williams designated Post June 1st its' a hair under $2 million we save. Buffalo has 2 designations per year, and haven't used any yet. Agreed that Urbik doesn't make sense, and I don't think they would do that to him after he just agreed to a pay cut when you have Mario's contract you can renegotiate along with other players who could use pay cuts Yes, we can gain an extra $1.75M cap, but that adds a $1.75M dead hit next season. I can see us cutting Williams if(when) we sign a quality FA OG and post Juneing it.....but people should be aware that cutting him doesn't actually save us any real cap relief. Due to the rollover cap rules, I have started looking at cap savings in two ways. Immediate cap savings....pertaining solely to the current cap. And real cap savings.....pertaining to the ongoing cap(multiple years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Would we be interested? Would you trade Clay? http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/03/eagles_still_trying_to_trade_evan_mathis.html You should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Did anyone hear the rumor that the reason we signed Clay was to use him as trade bait? I think Schefter reported this (will try to find the link).im not doubting Schefter said it, but that makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Would we be interested? Would you trade Clay? http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/03/eagles_still_trying_to_trade_evan_mathis.html This isn't Madden bro...get real. Nobody is trading a 26 year old athletic TE reaching his prime for a 34 year old guard...unless you want to be fired on the spot You would be hard pressed to find one personnel person in the NFL who could actually answer this question because they would be laughing so hysterically they couldn't talk... Edited March 23, 2015 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 This isn't Madden bro...get real. Nobody is trading a 26 year old athletic TE reaching his prime for a 34 year old guard...unless you want to be fired on the spot You would be hard pressed to find one personnel person in the NFL who could actually answer this question because they would be laughing so hysterically they couldn't talk... This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bftvocal70 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Idk philly still needs LBs I would see if they would bite on Manny Lawson, but I wouldn't offer much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex roman Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Are you high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Man, would this Off-season be epic if that happens! It's already been great, but this could be one for the ages. with out a doubt Brother!! But what if they are they trying to trade Nigel For Mathis and then get kiko back Cutting Williams for sure. Urbik took a paycut already and I think at his price he's worth it. And Williams june1st or trade.urbik was a smart play You should be banned. repeatedly, and more than once Idk philly still needs LBs I would see if they would bite on Manny Lawson, but I wouldn't offer much more than that. i am okay with this. soory manny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Proud Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Get on the phone Whaley. CSN Philly's Geoff Mosher reports the Eagles may release LG Evan Mathis if they can't trade him. PFF's No. 1 guard in 2013 and No. 2 guard last season, we're not sure why the Eagles are so inclined to get rid of Mathis. The Eagles are between $7-8 million under the cap, so they're not desperate for money. Shedding the 33-year-old would save $4.5 million. At 6'5/298, Mathis is an athletic guard and would ideally land in another zone-blocking scheme. Mathis could probably be had for a fifth-round pick. The Rams and Dolphins were linked to him earlier this month. http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football Edited March 24, 2015 by Buffalo Proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm thinking JR was just trying to humor the OP!! im not doubting Schefter said it, but that makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm thinking JR was just trying to humor the OP!! Hehe; a good Schefter reference is like fuel on a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I would trade a late rounder for him and maybe a low level player that Chip likes (Like Goodwin or some other marginal player with potential). I wouldn't deal the 3rd rounder for him but any other pick plus a late rounder next year or player seems like it would be a good price. Only issue is, Mathis wants a pay increase, that's why the Eagles want to trade him. That's why I don't see it happening, the team is going to draft O-line round 2. They have enough young offensive line bodies. They will draft DE, ILB, and S in rounds 2-4. Only offensive player might be a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Would we be interested? Would you trade Clay? http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/03/eagles_still_trying_to_trade_evan_mathis.html no, why would we trade clay. But we need a guard. Personally, I still say we hold out for a QB, because that's what we really need. um the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Wouldn't thought Yoloin would have fell for it. He's been around long enough, he should know better. Hehe; a good Schefter reference is like fuel on a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Wouldn't thought Yoloin would have fell for it. He's been around long enough, he should know better. lol but saw the reference in more than one thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) PFT: Iggles may cut Evan Mathis... Hey Pegs - can you drill another oil well really quickly? Local Philly report that's the source of the above copy/paste that PFT did: http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/source-eagles-could-release-evan-mathis-if-they-cant-trade-him Edited March 24, 2015 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You should be banned. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't know this guy but to me the thread title tells me everything i need to know. A lineman, particularly a guard, has to be willing to get dirty and play tough. A guy who calls himself G. Evan Mathis should probably be a lawyer or a consultant for a Wall Street firm. An NFL guard? I don't think so. Too snooty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Get on the phone Whaley. CSN Philly's Geoff Mosher reports the Eagles may release LG Evan Mathis if they can't trade him. PFF's No. 1 guard in 2013 and No. 2 guard last season, we're not sure why the Eagles are so inclined to get rid of Mathis. The Eagles are between $7-8 million under the cap, so they're not desperate for money. Shedding the 33-year-old would save $4.5 million. At 6'5/298, Mathis is an athletic guard and would ideally land in another zone-blocking scheme. Mathis could probably be had for a fifth-round pick. The Rams and Dolphins were linked to him earlier this month. http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football I like Mathis and am in favor of Buffalo pursuing him; word of caution re PFF...Mathis gets paid to promote the site, so it's natural that he'd get a favorable grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Would we be interested? Would you trade Clay? http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/03/eagles_still_trying_to_trade_evan_mathis.html tanks for trolling bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't know this guy but to me the thread title tells me everything i need to know. A lineman, particularly a guard, has to be willing to get dirty and play tough. A guy who calls himself G. Evan Mathis should probably be a lawyer or a consultant for a Wall Street firm. An NFL guard? I don't think so. Too snooty. Fitzgibbons went to Harvard. There's a lot of really smart guys that also play football....and G. Evan is a really good football player according to Joe B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm just thinking out of the box. People like to insult Chip Kelly for making crazy moves, but at least he's being innovative. I suggest something that might seem crazy, but y'all just want to play it safe. Where has playing it safe gotten us? The longest current playoff drought in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Shady may be available if Bryce Brown really lights it up this spring. exactly my feeling. a new low for original posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 evan mathis is being discussed in a responsible way here: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/176931-ian-rapoport-eagles-working-to-trade-g-evan-mathis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm just thinking out of the box. People like to insult Chip Kelly for making crazy moves, but at least he's being innovative. I suggest something that might seem crazy, but y'all just want to play it safe. Where has playing it safe gotten us? The longest current playoff drought in NFL history. Define longest current drought in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Define longest current drought in history. Um, the 15 year drought we're in now. It's the longest current one in history. Meaning no team has currently gone longer than we have in the history of the league right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Um, the 15 year drought we're in now. It's the longest current one in history. Meaning no team has currently gone longer than we have in the history of the league right now. I have had the longest current headache in my history since 8:25 AM in the morning. Would you go with Advil or Tylenol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwchze Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Would we be interested? Would you trade Clay? http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/03/eagles_still_trying_to_trade_evan_mathis.html i have to admit that you do start some of the dumbest posts..they would never go thru what they did to trade him. this isnt the nba.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 i have to admit that you do start some of the dumbest posts..they would never go thru what they did to trade him. this isnt the nba.. You think innovation is dumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm just thinking out of the box. People like to insult Chip Kelly for making crazy moves, but at least he's being innovative. I suggest something that might seem crazy, but y'all just want to play it safe. Where has playing it safe gotten us? The longest current playoff drought in NFL history. Father, why is this Pre-Season unlike all the other Pre-Seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Turns out he has a no trade clause, so I'm sorry for jumping the gun and showing some innovation. Maybe Russ Brandon should take over the football sides of things again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwchze Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You think innovation is dumb? no I dont. But this is not innovation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm just thinking out of the box. People like to insult Chip Kelly for making crazy moves, but at least he's being innovative. I suggest something that might seem crazy, but y'all just want to play it safe. Where has playing it safe gotten us? The longest current playoff drought in NFL history. Nothing says "thinking out of the box" like the cliche "thinking out of the box." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Giving up valuable resources or young players for a 34 year old G is super smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Finding out today that the Eagles were interested in Woods for McCoy, they should call up Chip and offer Woods for Mathis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Finding out today that the Eagles were interested in Woods for McCoy, they should call up Chip and offer Woods for Mathis. I wouldn't trade Woods for Mathis but if they are planning on cutting Mathis, I would trade Hogan for him. Chip might be able to do something with Hogan as a 3 or 4. We would save a little money on Hogan so we can afford Mathis, and it would be much better to trade for him than to try to sign him as a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Finding out today that the Eagles were interested in Woods for McCoy, they should call up Chip and offer Woods for Mathis.i woudnt make that trade. Mathis is a decade older than woods. I would trade something for him, but not woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I wouldn't trade Woods for Mathis but if they are planning on cutting Mathis, I would trade Hogan for him. Chip might be able to do something with Hogan as a 3 or 4. We would save a little money on Hogan so we can afford Mathis, and it would be much better to trade for him than to try to sign him as a FA. If they'd take Hogan, that's definitely the better deal for us, but I think I would be willing to offer up to Woods. We're deep enough at WR with Watkins, Harvin, and Clay, and I am not opposed to Hogan at 3 next year and drafting a receiver late this year or mid-range next year if Harvin doesn't work out, and the OL is in rough enough shape that a guard who only has 2 years left is worth it. Mathis has more ability to be contributing to whether "win now" works out more than Woods does as a strong #3 receiver on a run-first team. i woudnt make that trade. Mathis is a decade older than woods. I would trade something for him, but not woods. If we weren't cap strapped, I would say just trade whatever you need to. Trade the #2, to me, its about the same value since we're hoping to draft an immediate contributor to the OL at this point. By trading a player like Woods, you save that much cap room, and then you save more by cutting the redundant Chris Williams. Of course, this only makes sense if you stop trading picks for veterans because that is not a sustainable strategy to build a consistently winning team, but I don't think that is how Whaley or Rex or Pegula are thinking. They want to win now is all and it make sense and this would be the strongest way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 If you can trade the #2 for Mathis this year, then next year's draft is devoted to drafting high-round OL to step in as the line ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Finding out today that the Eagles were interested in Woods for McCoy, they should call up Chip and offer Woods for Mathis. I absolutely would not make that trade..... Robert Woods is a stud and a excellent number 2 receiver........ I would throw a later round pick out there and see if they bite....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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