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12 hours ago, The_Dude said:

 

The NYS Senate went Democrat, hard, yesterday.  NYC leftists are spreading out: most of LI used to be pretty strongly right when it came to state elections.  Westchester and Rockland districts used to be toss-ups.  No more. 

 

SAFE act part II: electric boogaloo is coming.  That and more.  Luckily the 2nd Circuit and the Supreme Court are getting saner.  We're going to need them.

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"No one wants to take your guns."

 

Remember, SJWs, and leftists as a whole by extension, always lie.

 

https://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/State-Measures-Initiative-Measure-No-1639-Initiative-Measure-No-1639-concerns-firearms.html

 

Now all semiautomatics, including 22s, are "assault rifles" in Washington.  10 day waiting period.  Additional $25 infringement fee.  Mandatory "education" if you want to purchase a firearm.  If your gun is stolen from you and then used in a crime, you are guilty of a felony.  Can't purchase a semi-automatic anything until you're 21.

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1 hour ago, LeviF91 said:

"No one wants to take your guns."

 

Remember, SJWs, and leftists as a whole by extension, always lie.

 

https://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/State-Measures-Initiative-Measure-No-1639-Initiative-Measure-No-1639-concerns-firearms.html

 

Now all semiautomatics, including 22s, are "assault rifles" in Washington.  10 day waiting period.  Additional $25 infringement fee.  Mandatory "education" if you want to purchase a firearm.  If your gun is stolen from you and then used in a crime, you are guilty of a felony.  Can't purchase a semi-automatic anything until you're 21.

 

Hey, my motto is Molon Labe. Any time they wanna try. That said, I do absolutely support banning private party sales, and 80% AR lowers without a background check. I had an extra upper laying around, so I bought an 80% lower the other day, and the parts kit. In 30 minutes I had a new AR. 

Literally EVERY gun I own is on the Fienstein hit list. What makes me laugh is how Dems think they can actually pull this off...

 

 

NOW HIRING: Gun Confiscator 

 

Roles and Responsibility: Knock on peoples doors, tell them you're from the government, and they are to hand their weapons over immediately. 

 

Salary: $40,000 a year

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29 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Hey, my motto is Molon Labe. Any time they wanna try. That said, I do absolutely support banning private party sales, and 80% AR lowers without a background check. I had an extra upper laying around, so I bought an 80% lower the other day, and the parts kit. In 30 minutes I had a new AR. 

Literally EVERY gun I own is on the Fienstein hit list. What makes me laugh is how Dems think they can actually pull this off...

 

 

NOW HIRING: Gun Confiscator 

 

Roles and Responsibility: Knock on peoples doors, tell them you're from the government, and they are to hand their weapons over immediately. 

 

Salary: $40,000 a year

 

 

Does that include Funeral expenses ?

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Does that include Funeral expenses ?

 

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I've no idea. But who would take that job? The baddest Green Berets and SEALS wouldn't take that job. That job gets you dead, for sure. 

 

I really wonder -- how many of you on here who live in New York comply with their silly laws? I wouldn't.

Like an AR "pistol." It's illegal to put a fore grip or butt stock on..... Who thinks I follow those laws? 

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2 hours ago, The_Dude said:

 

Hey, my motto is Molon Labe. Any time they wanna try. That said, I do absolutely support banning private party sales, and 80% AR lowers without a background check. I had an extra upper laying around, so I bought an 80% lower the other day, and the parts kit. In 30 minutes I had a new AR. 

Literally EVERY gun I own is on the Fienstein hit list. What makes me laugh is how Dems think they can actually pull this off...

 

 

NOW HIRING: Gun Confiscator 

 

Roles and Responsibility: Knock on peoples doors, tell them you're from the government, and they are to hand their weapons over immediately. 

 

Salary: $40,000 a year

 

Shall not be infringed.

 

And regarding "come and get it," it's already happening:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-officers-serving-red-flag-gun-removal-order-fatally-shoot-armed-man/

1 hour ago, The_Dude said:

 

I've no idea. But who would take that job? The baddest Green Berets and SEALS wouldn't take that job. That job gets you dead, for sure. 

 

I really wonder -- how many of you on here who live in New York comply with their silly laws? I wouldn't.

Like an AR "pistol." It's illegal to put a fore grip or butt stock on..... Who thinks I follow those laws? 

 

I'm exempt from NY's gun laws.  However, many of my friends are not, and almost none of them comply with the gun laws completely. 

 

Many of my counterparts in the Troopers and various sheriff's offices have expressed to me that they would not, even if they could, enforce the gun laws currently on the books. 

 

As of now SAFE act compliance is estimated to be at 2% statewide.

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6 hours ago, LeviF91 said:

 

The NYS Senate went Democrat, hard, yesterday.  NYC leftists are spreading out: most of LI used to be pretty strongly right when it came to state elections.  Westchester and Rockland districts used to be toss-ups.  No more. 

 

SAFE act part II: electric boogaloo is coming.  That and more.  Luckily the 2nd Circuit and the Supreme Court are getting saner.  We're going to need them.

It’ll be interesting to see if NY loses representatives and if so how many after the next census. I have a theory that part of why the blue is spreading up there is because people who enjoy having things like jobs and personal freedoms are hearing Andy’s message that they are no longer welcome and leaving. 

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6 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

If you are the victim of a crime, you become a criminal.

 

Not unheard of.  If someone hacks your computer and puts child porn on it, you're guilty of distribution.  Someone breaks into your home, trips on a rug, bashes his head, and dies, and you can be charged with criminally negligent homicide.  I body-checked a guy in to a wall today after he tried to rob me at an ATM, pretty sure I'm guilty of assault.  

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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

Not unheard of.  If someone hacks your computer and puts child porn on it, you're guilty of distribution.  Someone breaks into your home, trips on a rug, bashes his head, and dies, and you can be charged with criminally negligent homicide.  I body-checked a guy in to a wall today after he tried to rob me at an ATM, pretty sure I'm guilty of assault.  

 

I’m sure everybody with child porn claims to have been hacked. Sick *****. 

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Officer shoots, kills armed security guard outside south suburban bar

 

After security asked a group of drunk men to leave Manny’s Blue Room Bar around 4 a.m. Sunday, witnesses say someone came back with a gun and opened fire. Security returned fire, and according to witnesses, 26-year-old armed security guard Jemel Roberson apprehended one of the men involved outside.

 

"He had somebody on the ground with his knee in back with his gun in his back like, 'don’t move,'" witness Adam Harris said.

 

Soon after, witnesses say an officer responding to the shooting fired at Roberson after arriving on the scene.

 

"Everybody was screaming out, 'he was a security guard,' and they basically saw a black man with a gun and killed him," Harris said.

Friends say Roberson was an upstanding guy who was also a musician, playing keyboard and drums at several Chicago-area churches, who had plans to become a police officer.

 

https://wgntv.com/2018/11/11/multiple-wounded-in-robbins-bar-shooting-police-say/

 

Security guards need to wear a uniform to avoid this tragedy . The problem is still for armed civilians in situations like this

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28 minutes ago, ALF said:

Officer shoots, kills armed security guard outside south suburban bar

 

After security asked a group of drunk men to leave Manny’s Blue Room Bar around 4 a.m. Sunday, witnesses say someone came back with a gun and opened fire. Security returned fire, and according to witnesses, 26-year-old armed security guard Jemel Roberson apprehended one of the men involved outside.

 

"He had somebody on the ground with his knee in back with his gun in his back like, 'don’t move,'" witness Adam Harris said.

 

Soon after, witnesses say an officer responding to the shooting fired at Roberson after arriving on the scene.

 

"Everybody was screaming out, 'he was a security guard,' and they basically saw a black man with a gun and killed him," Harris said.

Friends say Roberson was an upstanding guy who was also a musician, playing keyboard and drums at several Chicago-area churches, who had plans to become a police officer.

 

https://wgntv.com/2018/11/11/multiple-wounded-in-robbins-bar-shooting-police-say/

 

Security guards need to wear a uniform to avoid this tragedy . The problem is still for armed civilians in situations like this

Can we wait for more facts please?

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3 minutes ago, Kemp said:

The more guns, the more shootings, the more dead. Pretty simple math.

The one recurring happenstance in every mass shooting (other than capture of the nutcase) is that the shooter gets shot. The sooner he gets shot the less people die. I think it is not a bad idea for more guns by responsible people in these circumstances. You are proposing something that is not possible and nothing more than a feel good notion. Pretty much like all leftist ideas.

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21 minutes ago, Kemp said:

The more guns, the more shootings, the more dead. Pretty simple math.

 

The forcible disarming of the US population would result in the largest protracted act of gun violence against civilians in US history my many, many magnitudes.

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On 11/7/2018 at 6:46 PM, The_Dude said:

 

I’m sure everybody with child porn claims to have been hacked. Sick *****. 

It happens more often than you think.

2 hours ago, Kemp said:

The more guns, the more shootings, the more dead. Pretty simple math.

Liberal logic in a nutshell.

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2 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

The forcible disarming of the US population would result in the largest protracted act of gun violence against civilians in US history my many, many magnitudes.

And You guys can’t wait for that moment.....right?

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Read an interesting book this morning on the anthropological research in to the basis of warfare.  

 

One of the interesting points it makes is that anthropology rarely studies warfare as an anthropological or social activity.  Rather, it studies the tools of warfare, and confuses those with the violence of warfare itself.

 

It put me in mind of this whole "people don't kill people, guns kill people" argument, and made me think that just maybe they're trying to solve the wrong problem...

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7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Read an interesting book this morning on the anthropological research in to the basis of warfare.  

 

One of the interesting points it makes is that anthropology rarely studies warfare as an anthropological or social activity.  Rather, it studies the tools of warfare, and confuses those with the violence of warfare itself.

 

It put me in mind of this whole "people don't kill people, guns kill people" argument, and made me think that just maybe they're trying to solve the wrong problem...

Just like my old pappy used to say. "It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian."

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14 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

Will be curious to find out if this is fake, or if a doc really posted this online while a mother waited to hear about her dead son.

 

Either way...unhinged. Completely unhinged.

 

 

 

 

It Damn well better be fake , it violates all kinds of ethics.

 

 

Besides it has that liberal over dramatic stench to it...............

 

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19 hours ago, TH3 said:

And You guys can’t wait for that moment.....right?

 

LOL...

 

Wut?

 

We can't wait for the government to start a massive campaign that results in the deaths of tens of thousands of law abiding gun owners?

 

Were you raised on a diet consisting of exclusively paint chips?

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The National Rifle Association recently told doctors who stray into the gun debate to “stay in their lane.” But we trauma surgeons are the direct witnesses and final chroniclers of gun violence. As I was with your son, I am too frequently the last person who speaks to loved ones. A stranger in mask and gown, their newest friend and their final companion. I want to tell you that their final words are something heartfelt, something special. In truth, the words are often sterile. Answers to questions such as “Do you have any allergies?” or “Have you ever had surgery?” We are, after all, professional. And I think — no, I hope — that is also what you want from us.

Nonetheless, it still feels callous. I know not everyone can be saved. But I ignore that logic and treat every single person who arrives before me as I would a member of my own family. I did not give up on your son until I exhausted every ounce of my training and every thread of my soul. In doing so, your son became like family to me. I will never understand the pain you are feeling, yet I find that anytime I lose a patient, I feel as if I lost someone close to me.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/to-the-mother-of-the-gunshot-victim-i-couldnt-save/2018/11/13/e2ceea74-e6aa-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?utm_term=.6ff33190014c

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Just now, Tiberius said:

Doctors saving gun shot victims is stupid? 

 

Drunk are ya? 

 

What a ***** tool. See you’re so partisan you think everyone is. I was talking about the NRA tweet telling doctors to “stay in their lanes”. Boy I bet you feel real ***** stupid right about now.  

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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

What a ***** tool. See you’re so partisan you think everyone is. I was talking about the NRA tweet telling doctors to “stay in their lanes”. Boy I bet you feel real ***** stupid right about now.  

I feel stupid because you are not clear in what you are saying? Nope. 

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I feel stupid because you are not clear in what you are saying? Nope. 

 

Gee how did I know this was going to be your response. So your immediate partisan bias is somehow my fault? Let’s recap shall we?  You post an op ed piece about an NRA TWEET.  I comment on a TWEET not an op ed piece. No seriously dude. You need too feel really ***** stupid.  

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On 11/14/2018 at 9:11 AM, Chef Jim said:

 

What a ***** tool. See you’re so partisan you think everyone is. I was talking about the NRA tweet telling doctors to “stay in their lanes”. Boy I bet you feel real ***** stupid right about now.  

 

He hasn't felt stupid in 10 years, you think Otto's starting now?

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On 11/12/2018 at 3:34 PM, Kemp said:

The more guns, the more shootings, the more dead. Pretty simple math.

 

Actually not that simple and completely the reverse.

 

try educating yourself.

 

https://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493660

 

On its initial publication in 1998, John R. Lott’s More Guns, Less Crime drew both lavish praise and heated criticism. More than a decade later, it continues to play a key role in ongoing arguments over gun-control laws: despite all the attacks by gun-control advocates, no one has ever been able to refute Lott’s simple, startling conclusion that more guns mean less crime. Relying on the most rigorously comprehensive data analysis ever conducted on crime statistics and right-to-carry laws, the book directly challenges common perceptions about the relationship of guns, crime, and violence. For this third edition, Lott draws on an additional ten years of data—including provocative analysis of the effects of gun bans in Chicago and Washington, D.C—that brings the book fully up to date and further bolsters its central contention.

 

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7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Gee how did I know this was going to be your response. So your immediate partisan bias is somehow my fault? Let’s recap shall we?  You post an op ed piece about an NRA TWEET.  I comment on a TWEET not an op ed piece. No seriously dude. You need too feel really ***** stupid.  

Ya, my partisan bias. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

He hasn't felt stupid in 10 years, you think Otto's starting now?

What's up Trump defender? What? 

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Wisconsin Glassware Company Gifts Employees With Handguns for Christmas

 

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A company in Wisconsin that produces glassware will be gifting all of its employees with handguns for Christmas to promote safety. According to the Appleton Post-Crescent, shot glass-maker BenShot decided on the ironic gift to promote team building as well.

 

 

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