zow2 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thaddeus Lewis anyone? at least the guy has some wheels to get out of trouble in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Serious question with the Bengals 9 days away: Plan A would be Josh Freeman - if his head is screwed on straight. THat said, I'm considering it a given that we will not pass the ball effectively that day. Tuel is a marginal talent with no arm strength to speak of, and 9 days is not enough time for an outsider to effectively assimilate into the offense. Wouldn't the FO consider signing Tebow and giving him a limited package with a plan of running fifty times against Cincinnati and winning a defensive struggle? I am not a Tebow supporter, recognize that he will never pass the ball effectively, and do not consider him a helpful longterm backup. I'm saying that if you are signing a guy off the street to try to make your team competitive for 1-2 weeks, wouldn't you consider it? Edited October 4, 2013 by Flip Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) This is the same injury RGIII had in early december last year and he only missed 1 game... I can't tell if it was because he had a Bye or if he just took the week off. Too bad we don't have a Kirk Cousins as a backup. Edited October 4, 2013 by YoloInTheBlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Marrone also said its conceivable that whoever they sign could start against the Bengals. Hope Russ has the Taurus warmed up. Translation ... "Tuel scared the **** out of me too" Edited October 4, 2013 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Translation ... "Tuel scared the **** out of me too" LMFAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) All that I can say is he would 100% know. They are preparing for 6-10 weeks as of this morning. I guess my point is that there is zero chance that my source is misinformed. The only thing is that the MRI today may show something different than last night. I am not holding my breath but crossing my fingers. If this is accurate, the Bills need to add another QB. If I'm Josh Freeman, I'm much more interested in the Jacksonville opportunity than the Buffalo opportunity. At the end of the year, he'd obviously leave to go someplace with a better long-term opportunity to become a starter. From Freeman's perspective, why go through the effort of learning a whole new offense for a one year backup opportunity? Why not sign a multi-year deal, and learn the offense of the team you hope to be with over the long-term? Assuming Freeman signs with someone other than Buffalo, where does that leave the Bills? We can't go into the next 6 - 10 games with Tuel as the only healthy QB on the roster. Trent Edwards is available. Edwards isn't starter material. But at this point, we have to be realistic about the face we're going to be getting a QB no one else wanted. Edwards is humble, he works hard, he has respectable physical tools, he's more accurate than Fitz, and he doesn't take stupid chances with the football. Given that the Bills are basically picking through other teams' leftovers, that might be the best deal we're going to get. Edited October 4, 2013 by Edwards' Arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 What happened to "drug rehab" just rumors? Rumors started by Tampa -- and the "drug" was for his ADHD. Tampa played him DIRTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Is Nassib on Giants roster or PS? He knows the system, just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Serious question with the Bengals 9 days away: Plan A would be Josh Freeman - if his head is screwed on straight. THat said, I'm considering it a given that we will not pass the ball effectively that day. Tuel is a marginal talent with no arm strength to speak of, and 9 days is not enough time for an outsider to effectively assimilate into the offense. Wouldn't the FO consider signing Tebow and giving him a limited package with a plan of running fifty times against Cincinnati and winning a defensive struggle? I am not a Tebow supporter, recognize that he will never pass the ball effectively, and do not consider him a helpful longterm backup. I'm saying that if you are signing a guy off the street to try to make your team competitive for 1-2 weeks, wouldn't you consider it? NO. TEBOW IS NOT AN NFL QB FOR THE LAST TIME! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, LET IT GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Serious question with the Bengals 9 days away: Plan A would be Josh Freeman - if his head is screwed on straight. THat said, I'm considering it a given that we will not pass the ball effectively that day. Tuel is a marginal talent with no arm strength to speak of, and 9 days is not enough time for an outsider to effectively assimilate into the offense. Wouldn't the FO consider signing Tebow and giving him a limited package with a plan of running fifty times against Cininnati and winning a defensive struggle? I am not a Tebow supporter, recognize that he will never pass the ball effectively, and do not consider him a helpful longterm backup. I'm saying that if you are signing a guy off the street to try to make your team competitive for 1-2 weeks, wouldn't you consider it? Yes I would consider it. Serious question with the Bengals 9 days away: Plan A would be Josh Freeman - if his head is screwed on straight. THat said, I'm considering it a given that we will not pass the ball effectively that day. Tuel is a marginal talent with no arm strength to speak of, and 9 days is not enough time for an outsider to effectively assimilate into the offense. Wouldn't the FO consider signing Tebow and giving him a limited package with a plan of running fifty times against Cincinnati and winning a defensive struggle? I am not a Tebow supporter, recognize that he will never pass the ball effectively, and do not consider him a helpful longterm backup. I'm saying that if you are signing a guy off the street to try to make your team competitive for 1-2 weeks, wouldn't you consider it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Is Nassib on Giants roster or PS? He knows the system, just a thought. Interesting. Imagine the cluster $uck that would create if he produced and won a couple of games. Oh boy. Edited October 4, 2013 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's the LCL... That is lateral like Cutler had, EJ was on the bike ala Jay Jay the Vajay Jay Cutler? AND it just a sprain. Hoyer had the ACL go... The ACL and MCL are the bad ones, right? Front and middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I am not a Tebow supporter, recognize that he will never pass the ball effectively, and do not consider him a helpful longterm backup. I'm saying that if you are signing a guy off the street to try to make your team competitive for 1-2 weeks, wouldn't you consider it? Is the choice between Tebow and Tuel, or Tebow and Freeman?...I would take Tebow over Tuel just because of the experience aspect...But I would take Freeman and even Thad Lewis over Tebow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Is the choice between Tebow and Tuel, or Tebow and Freeman?...I would take Tebow over Tuel just because of the experience aspect...But I would take Freeman and even Thad Lewis over Tebow... I would take you, KOKBILLS, over Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Serious question with the Bengals 9 days away: Plan A would be Josh Freeman - if his head is screwed on straight. THat said, I'm considering it a given that we will not pass the ball effectively that day. Tuel is a marginal talent with no arm strength to speak of, and 9 days is not enough time for an outsider to effectively assimilate into the offense. Wouldn't the FO consider signing Tebow and giving him a limited package with a plan of running fifty times against Cincinnati and winning a defensive struggle? I am not a Tebow supporter, recognize that he will never pass the ball effectively, and do not consider him a helpful longterm backup. I'm saying that if you are signing a guy off the street to try to make your team competitive for 1-2 weeks, wouldn't you consider it? So you want a QB to play that won't pass the ball effectively? Care to explain? That's kinda their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) I'll probably get tarred and feathered for this but ... If they don't see someone they *really* like (i.e not a stop gap) maybe they let Tuel start until Manuel gets back. I have to assume they liked Tuel as a backup before last night. Kicking him to the curb after a bad road game coming in cold and with probably damn few first team reps in weeks seems like an overreaction. Realistically the Bills were probably not making the playoffs this season with or without Manuel. Why not let Tuel start at this point with proper preparation and see what he has. If he sucks, then they know they need a backup QB this off season. If he becomes adequate they can rest easier in the future. What is the point of bring in a stop-gap QB now? Edited October 4, 2013 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I wonder how much of this is "EJ really won't be out that long, but we need to make it sound like it might be longer in order to attract better talent." Why would Freeman want to sign with us if he knew EJ would only be out one or two games? Just the conspiracist in me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The squad needs to sign Tebow ASAP. Freeman won't come here, because he knows he'd be a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I'll probably get tarred and feathered for this but ... If they don't see someone they *really* like (i.e not a stop gap) maybe they let Tuel start until Manuel gets back. I have to assume they liked Tuel as a backup before last night. Kicking him to the curb after a bad road game coming in cold and with probably damn few first team reps in weeks seems like an overreaction. Realistically the Bills were probably not making the playoffs this season with or without Manuel. Why not let Tuel start at this point with proper preparation and see what he has. If he sucks, then they know they need a backup QB this off season. If he becomes adequate they can rest easier in the future. What is the point of bring in a stop-gap QB now? Because at 2-3 you can't throw the towel in on the season.... especially with the AFC East as wide open as it's been in over a decade. The squad needs to sign Tebow ASAP. Freeman won't come here, because he knows he'd be a backup. Stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I would consider tebow in this limited context, pending who else is seriously in the discussion. Any to tgreg99---of course tebow is not an nfl qb! Who said he is? The problem is we don't have one on the team now and won't for 3 or 4 games. Tebow brings some things to the plate and gives us a better chance than teul for example. It's kind of a no win situation ,isn't it? There is a reason these guys in the conversation are NFL castoffs!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 I'll probably get tarred and feathered for this but ... If they don't see someone they *really* like (i.e not a stop gap) maybe they let Tuel start until Manuel gets back. I have to assume they liked Tuel as a backup before last night. Kicking him to the curb after a bad road game coming in cold and with probably damn few first team reps in weeks seems like an overreaction. Realistically the Bills were probably not making the playoffs this season with or without Manuel. Why not let Tuel start at this point with proper preparation and see what he has. If he sucks, then they know they need a backup QB this off season. If he becomes adequate they can rest easier in the future. What is the point of bring in a stop-gap QB now? Good point. It's not as if Freeman was tearing it up in Tampa - last image I have of him is punting the ball out of his own end zone vs. the Jets for a safety. Tuel was ungodly awful yesterday though. I guess it can't get any worse. We have to bring someone in though for depth alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The squad needs to sign Tebow ASAP. Freeman won't come here, because he knows he'd be a backup. Can we stop the Tebow comments, please? He is an awful QB. If he was so great he would be on an NFL roster right now. A number of teams have bad QBs and still don't sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I like the idea of David Carr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 This team can't catch a break. Next 4 games are toughies. CINCI @ Miami @ Saints KC only 2 of those teams are undefeated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I would consider tebow in this limited context, pending who else is seriously in the discussion. Any to tgreg99---of course tebow is not an nfl qb! Who said he is? The problem is we don't have one on the team now and won't for 3 or 4 games. Tebow brings some things to the plate and gives us a better chance than teul for example. It's kind of a no win situation ,isn't it? There is a reason these guys in the conversation are NFL castoffs!!!!! No. You're wrong. 100%. Tebow can't play the position AND brings incredible baggage and is a locker room cancer. If you want to destroy the burgeoning chemistry on this team, Tebow is your man. If you care about the Bills being a competent team in the future, you keep Tebow far far far away from OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Because at 2-3 you can't throw the towel in on the season.... especially with the AFC East as wide open as it's been in over a decade. Stop. You're embarrassing yourself. I'd say the same to you sir. The amount of overly negative, and positive, attention the kid gets is embarrassing. Tebow is a serviceable backup. He's won games. He can run an offense better than Tuel can. He's not our savior, but a decent emergency quarterback. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I'd say the same to you sir. The amount of overly negative, and positive, attention the kid gets is embarrassing. Tebow is a serviceable backup. He's won games. He can run an offense better than Tuel can. He's not our savior, but a decent emergency quarterback. End of story. No, he's not. If he was a decent emergency QB he'd be on an NFL roster. You're embarrassing yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The season is not lost if we can sign someone who doesn't kill us and gives the offense some type of threat. If I'm Freeman, I sign one year with the Bills because they have potential to win games. That gets me a lucrative offer in the offseason. Plus, Buffalo is away from the media spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I would consider tebow in this limited context, pending who else is seriously in the discussion. Any to tgreg99---of course tebow is not an nfl qb! Who said he is? The problem is we don't have one on the team now and won't for 3 or 4 games. Tebow brings some things to the plate and gives us a better chance than teul for example. It's kind of a no win situation ,isn't it? There is a reason these guys in the conversation are NFL castoffs!!!!! Tebow brings nothing to the plate except a ton of media attention that we don't need. He doesn't give us a better chance no matter what. JP>Tebow, FITZ>Tebow, RJ> Tebow. ENOUGH WITH TEBOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 I like the idea of David Carr Same here. Much better than Freeman. Carr knows his place in the league. Seems like a good guy. Have never heard anything to the contrary. Freeman appears to have some baggage. What's the point when he'll only serve as a replacement for a few weeks. The season is not lost if we can sign someone who doesn't kill us and gives the offense some type of threat. If I'm Freeman, I sign one year with the Bills because they have potential to win games. That gets me a lucrative offer in the offseason. Plus, Buffalo is away from the media spotlight. If i'm Freeman, I don't sign with the Bills b/c how many games will he be winning if he only starts 2-3 weeks..which by the way is a pretty tough 2-3 weeks stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Same here. Much better than Freeman. Carr knows his place in the league. Seems like a good guy. Have never heard anything to the contrary. Freeman appears to have some baggage. What's the point when he'll only serve as a replacement for a few weeks. Carr doesn't have the arm anymore in my opinion. He's shell shocked from the horrible offensive lines he had to play behind for years. Carr gives you less of a chance of a QB controversy than Freeman, but Freeman gives you a better chance to win. Just my opinion of course. Edited October 4, 2013 by tgreg99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 No, he's not. If he was a decent emergency QB he'd be on an NFL roster. You're embarrassing yourself. OK, we get it. You don't like Tebow! Guess what? Neither do I! The guy is capable of managing a certain style of game (that involves little passing) and he has had some success doing that in this league. We are not talking "great idea" here or even "acceptable idea"....we are talking about coming up with best possible bad idea to get us out of **** storm. I think this is the part you are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 OK, we get it. You don't like Tebow! Guess what? Neither do I! The guy is capable of managing a certain style of game (that involves little passing) and he has had some success doing that in this league. We are not talking "great idea" here or even "acceptable idea"....we are talking about coming up with best possible bad idea to get us out of **** storm. I think this is the part you are missing. And yet, for someone who doesn't like him you continue to defend him. You're wrong. He's garbage, the entire league knows it. He divides every locker room he enters (which is more damning than his terrible mechanics). Calling for Tebow to be signed lowers the Football IQ of the entire board. Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 There are a lot of kinds of baggage. I don't happen to know what kind Freeman has. I would find it VERY hard to believe he would be anything but a saint if he came to the bills right now! had a chance to start and play for a few games right away and reestablish his credentials as a starting QB in this league to other teams. There probably aren't any other places he could go in and play right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 OK, we get it. You don't like Tebow! Guess what? Neither do I! The guy is capable of managing a certain style of game (that involves little passing) and he has had some success doing that in this league. We are not talking "great idea" here or even "acceptable idea"....we are talking about coming up with best possible bad idea to get us out of **** storm. I think this is the part you are missing. Tebow is not the best possible bad idea to get us out of ****storm. this is ridiculous. You sound like his damn agent. Tebow to Buffalo- NO NO NO NO NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 There are a lot of kinds of baggage. I don't happen to know what kind Freeman has. I would find it VERY hard to believe he would be anything but a saint if he came to the bills right now! had a chance to start and play for a few games right away and reestablish his credentials as a starting QB in this league to other teams. There probably aren't any other places he could go in and play right away. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Pat White did a nice job in Washington for preseason. they hated having to let him go. not sure if he is back there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Because at 2-3 you can't throw the towel in on the season.... especially with the AFC East as wide open as it's been in over a decade. i know what you mean. But they are 2-3 overall with the Pats* at 4-0 and the Phins at 3-1. And maybe more important, the Bills are 0-2 in the division and 1-3 in the conference. And starting what you think is a capable backup for a game or two is what you do when your #1 goes down, not panic shopping. Also, if Marrone thought Tuel was a capable backup before, last night should not have changed his mind so quickly. If Marrone did not think Tuel was an adequate backup that begs the even more disturbing question, why in the world would Marrone and Whaley allow the situation to exist where if their #1 went down they immediately need to go into a panic mode to hire someone off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Tebow brings out the crazy. Good grief. Which, I guess, is reason to stay away from him, and that is unfortunate. He's a terrible thrower. We get it. But he's a tremendous athlete who has a knack for winning. To beat a dead horse, the kid took the freaking Broncos to the freaking playoffs and beat the freaking Steelers. He's freaking good enough for a couple of freaking games already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 And yet, for someone who doesn't like him you continue to defend him. You're wrong. He's garbage, the entire league knows it. He divides every locker room he enters (which is more damning than his terrible mechanics). Calling for Tebow to be signed lowers the Football IQ of the entire board. Stop it. No one is calling for him "to be signed". You should read more and criticize Tim Tebow less. The original poster asked if Tebow should be considered in the discussion here. I think he should be. Doesn't mean he wins the job. It means he earns a spot in the discussion. Not sure what you watched last night, but guess what? All games started by Teul will be Bills losses, guaranteed. I actually think Tebow's odds of some success are greater. I am certainly open to other suggestions as well, though no one that is brought in like this will be worth a damned. You get that part, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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