Dorkington Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. Â Who says we're only looking at 1 player at a time? Who says that in Pettine's new Defense adding another DT/NT isnt as important as another LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. maybe the front office is looking for value wherever they can get it, a "most bang for the buck" type thing. they may have also looked at video of last years run defense and thought it might not be a bad thing to try to start fixing it. Edited April 2, 2013 by swnybillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. Â They need a rotation at DT. Additionally need some insurance in case Dareus has any stamina or conditioning issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Wait one cotton pick in minute!!! Everyone knows the Bills dropped the ball by not signing anyone in the first 12 hours of free agency...this guy must really suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. Doesn't mean DT is not a need. Can't always get the players in the order you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Fantastic signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. Â Well may be the boys in the lab aren't finished cooking up the players to fill these "way bigger needs." Â Precisely who should we have signed instead of Branch> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. Â Somebody has a boo boo foot again so we definitely need a DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Who says we're only looking at 1 player at a time? Who says that in Pettine's new Defense adding another DT/NT isnt as important as another LB? Â Exactly...Especially when you consider that fact that the Bills only had one true NT...And he's missed the better part of the past two years with back issues...Considering that point, it's a huge signing... Â I pretty much assume with Pettine's system the Bills will manufacture more pressure on the QB...But defending the run...without a true NT...is an entirely different story...For 3 years now teams have lined up and run the ball right at they heart of the Bills Defense with not just good, but at times tremendous success...Was some of that LB's missing tackles and blowing their gap assignments? No doubt about it... But it was also Dareus, Williams, or whoever else was in the middle getting owned at times... Â So anyway...Nothing wrong with bringing in someone who can help plug up the middle...Especially with Troup's future in as much doubt as his actual ability to be effective...And I consider any move that will keep KW, and Dareus, off the Nose to be in the Bills best interest... Edited April 2, 2013 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like the signing, confused by one year deal, but also confused why we are shopping for a DT when we have way bigger needs. Â So would you be happier with a bad signing at a position of need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 So would you be happier with a bad signing at a position of need? Â I've decided Dork is either a staunchly committed troll or the most miserable person on the face of the planet (albeit not mutually exclusive from troll). Â Either way, the ignore function be thine friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Bills Website Interview with Branch: Â http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Focus-Alan-Branch-1-on-1-Interview/bc477974-df22-498f-8d76-4b8ca2215637 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Kelvin Sheppard should be celebrating. I think he stinks, but he'll stink a lot less with a more stout DL. And this guy is more stout than anyone they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 PR observation: Â BB.com already has a story on him. Â Nearly a week after Kolb, I have yet to see anything there about that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 PR observation: Â BB.com already has a story on him. Â Nearly a week after Kolb, I have yet to see anything there about that guy. I assume that it is simply a personal thing, and that Kolb is just on vacation, or moving, or whatever. It's a done deal, they just have to get him in town and sign the contract. As soon as he signs he will be paraded around. You could tell from what Marrone said today, he is just waiting until it is "official" and then will talk. Marrone even said he will go out of his way to come back and talk to the media guys as soon as that happens, so you know he just expects it is a formality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 If we signed Aaron Rogers, there would be parading the second he signed the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 If we signed Aaron Rogers, there would be parading the second he signed the contract. But Kolb hasn't signed the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 They need a rotation at DT. Additionally need some insurance in case Dareus has any stamina or conditioning issues. Wait -- i thought it was CJ that got winded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Who says we're only looking at 1 player at a time? Who says that in Pettine's new Defense adding another DT/NT isnt as important as another LB? Â Like I said, I'm confused about it. Obviously they have a plan and priorities that don't match up with my thoughts. Hence why I have a desk jockey job, and not a job in the NFL. Â So would you be happier with a bad signing at a position of need? Why does it have to be that? I'd rather have a solid signing at a position of "need". Like I said, I'm ok with this signing, just a bit confused by it. I'm not saying its a bad signing at all. Â I've decided Dork is either a staunchly committed troll or the most miserable person on the face of the planet (albeit not mutually exclusive from troll). Â Either way, the ignore function be thine friend. Â Believe it or not, I'm quite happy. I'm just not "trusting" of the Bills in general, they make a lot of mistakes. As I said above, I like the signing, just a bit confused by it. Another person mentioned rotation, which is a good point, as I'm sure Carrington will be more used as a DE in the hybrid defense that it sounds like we're running. Consider me educated. Sorry for trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfreak17 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 At any other time in the Bills history, I would have liked this. But given the looooooooooong list of areas we need to improve, this signals some financial mismanagement and poorly set priorities. LB, WR, QB...once we have solidified these areas, then the top brass can spend money on DL. Same goes for the draft. This guy might play well for the Bills, and I'll cheer for him and all....but...seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Who are DT, DE and OLB on the roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Quote from him from CBS site: "Buffalo intrigued me a lot. ... My aggressive style is similar to theirs," Branch said. "I feel they had me in mind from the beginning. ... This is perfect for me."  Aggressive style? Didn't Bills play Seattle in Toronto last year  Maybe he heard from Lynch that Toronto is a good place to live in when playing in Buffalo and you get a game each year to bring your coworkers to your crib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Quote from him from CBS site: "Buffalo intrigued me a lot. ... My aggressive style is similar to theirs," Branch said. "I feel they had me in mind from the beginning. ... This is perfect for me."  Aggressive style? Didn't Bills play Seattle in Toronto last year  Maybe he heard from Lynch that Toronto is a good place to live in when playing in Buffalo and you get a game each year to bring your coworkers to your crib.  The new 2013 scheme, not Wanny's 1990's vanilla scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Who are DT, DE and OLB on the roster?  Given the hybrids and the different fronts that teams run within the same game, let alone same season, it's tough to define.  But here is our list of talent that would fill those roles one way or another:  Mario Williams Kyle Williams Marcel Dareus Alex Carrington Alan Branch Mark Anderson Manny Lawson Nigel Bradham Arther Moats  Seems we're short on DEs, but we should be able to find 5-6 guys out of that list to play DT, DE, and OLB regardless of scheme.  At any other time in the Bills history, I would have liked this. But given the looooooooooong list of areas we need to improve, this signals some financial mismanagement and poorly set priorities. LB, WR, QB...once we have solidified these areas, then the top brass can spend money on DL. Same goes for the draft. This guy might play well for the Bills, and I'll cheer for him and all....but...seriously?  So your "looooooooooong list" is really 3 positions? 2 of which we've already added players via FA?  Really what it comes down to is that we need to add at least 1 WR in FA, and maybe another LB. And all will still most likely be addressed in the draft. I'll even throw in OL as well, and give you that one.  Not that long of a list, and not that many answers available in FA right now. Might as well improve the roster where ever possible, when ever possible. Edited April 2, 2013 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 At any other time in the Bills history, I would have liked this. But given the looooooooooong list of areas we need to improve, this signals some financial mismanagement and poorly set priorities. LB, WR, QB...once we have solidified these areas, then the top brass can spend money on DL. Same goes for the draft. This guy might play well for the Bills, and I'll cheer for him and all....but...seriously? Â We have been historically bad against the run. Pettine's defense needs a nose tackle. Prior to this signing, we had no true nose tackle on the roster. This was as big a need as anything else outside of Quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentonexile Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Sensible signing with a big upside... nice pickup Bils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Given the hybrids and the different fronts that teams run within the same game, let alone same season, it's tough to define.  But here is our list of talent that would fill those roles one way or another:  Mario Williams Kyle Williams Marcel Dareus Alex Carrington Alan Branch Mark Anderson Manny Lawson Nigel Bradham Arther Moats  Seems we're short on DEs, but we should be able to find 5-6 guys out of that list to play DT, DE, and OLB regardless of scheme.    So your "looooooooooong list" is really 3 positions? 2 of which we've already added players via FA?  Really what it comes down to is that we need to add at least 1 WR in FA, and maybe another LB. And all will still most likely be addressed in the draft. I'll even throw in OL as well, and give you that one.  Not that long of a list, and not that many answers available in FA right now. Might as well improve the roster where ever possible, when ever possible.  Personally I like the signing, but nonetheless, he does have a legitimate concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm confused (... I know). The write up on buffalobills.com talks about him playing 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT, but many of the posters here are talking about him at NT. Is this guy a NT or a DE when they go 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm confused (... I know). The write up on buffalobills.com talks about him playing 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT, but many of the posters here are talking about him at NT. Is this guy a NT or a DE when they go 3-4? Â The answer simply put is: Â Â Â All of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smapdi Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm confused (... I know). The write up on buffalobills.com talks about him playing 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT, but many of the posters here are talking about him at NT. Is this guy a NT or a DE when they go 3-4? Â I'm guessing both. He'll see some time at NT in the 3-4 and I bet Dareus will also see some snaps at NT. One thing our defensive line have is versatility. Nearly everyone on the roster can and has played multiple positions along the line. Â Addressing another poster, Another DT was definitely a need. I don't see how you could depend on Troupe for anything at this point in his career. Big men get tired so you can't just assume that Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus will be able to play every snap. Â Branch is also a very good run defender which will be put to good use here. We weren't exactly the stoutest team against the run last season. This signing checks off another box on the roster and gives us one less position that we need to spend a draft pick on. I'd much rather sign Branch and then be able to spend that pick on another WR or OLB which need talent, badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The answer simply put is:    All of the above  If you watch the video he also says he is willing to play safety. I know Aaron Williams sucks but should the new guy really be taking pot shots like that at a brand new teammate? He even chuckles as he says it. I know he is a big guy but I am guessing Williams takes a run at him in the locker room or at practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like this signing a lot. He is good against the run and with all the other talent on the DL he will fit in nicely. I wouldnt be surprised to see a front 3 of KW on one side, Dareus on the other, Branch in the middle and Mario at OLB blazing at the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 At any other time in the Bills history, I would have liked this. But given the looooooooooong list of areas we need to improve, this signals some financial mismanagement and poorly set priorities. LB, WR, QB...once we have solidified these areas, then the top brass can spend money on DL. Same goes for the draft. This guy might play well for the Bills, and I'll cheer for him and all....but...seriously? Â Nothing about building NFL rosters is a linear process. Ever. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) But given the looooooooooong list of areas we need to improve, this signals some financial mismanagement and poorly set priorities. LB, WR, QB...once we have solidified these areas, then the top brass can spend money on DL. Same goes for the draft. This guy might play well for the Bills, and I'll cheer for him and all....but...seriously? Â So would you have preferred a bad signing at one of those positions? What other QBs out there, do you want them to sign? What leads you to believe they are not / have not looked at those positions? Edited April 2, 2013 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I like this signing a lot. He is good against the run and with all the other talent on the DL he will fit in nicely. I wouldnt be surprised to see a front 3 of KW on one side, Dareus on the other, Branch in the middle and Mario at OLB blazing at the QB. Â At times, I wouldn't be surprised if we see this formation. If they do plan on following through with all the disguised blitzing that we believe they will perform, it's not as critical for them to get heavy pass pressure with the front four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Â Â Like I said, I'm confused about it. Obviously they have a plan and priorities that don't match up with my thoughts. Hence why I have a desk jockey job, and not a job in the NFL. Â Â yea - but even so, just because they signed a DT today doesnt mean it was seen as a bigger need or priority than something else, it just means they found a guy that was a good fit at a value they liked and that guy agreed to their offer. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 This "but he's a 4-3 player! he doesn't fit a 3-4!" stuff cracks me up. Like players are chosen at birth to be one or the other, and if you put him in a different scheme he will become a drooling stumbling retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 If you watch the video he also says he is willing to play safety. I know Aaron Williams sucks but should the new guy really be taking pot shots like that at a brand new teammate? He even chuckles as he says it. I know he is a big guy but I am guessing Williams takes a run at him in the locker room or at practice. Â I think he meant it more like he's versatile and wants to play. I doubt he knows who Aaron Williams even is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 he's 6'6 340lbs I'm sure he fits in any scheme he wants to play in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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