inkman Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Did you take high school algebra? The success or failure of these QB's are independent events. Therefore Barkely's probability of success or failure has nothing to do with the prior QB's. If you toss a coin 9 times and get heads all nine times, the probability of getting a head on the tenth toss is still 50/50. I'm not sure this analogy works. All the QB's have the constant of playing at USC (arguably the most talented offensive players in the country), so while their individual talent may be a variable the fact that all of them have access to playmakers that most other college QB's do not does mean something, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 There is nothing typical about this kid when it comes to what makes him tick. I was impressed to learn that he actually spearheaded relief efforts in Africa and Haiti among other places. Not just went to those places but actually organized and recruited others to help in relief efforts. That just isn't stereoptypical behavior for most people, let alone USC quarterbacks. Very impressive. Â GO BILLS!!! Â For once, you and I agree on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Seems to be a very thoughtful and data-driven analysis of Barkley, with good and bad points and a lot of examples.  From Football Outsiders, very legit outfit and no particular ax to grind  Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Seems to be a very thoughtful and data-driven analysis of Barkley, with good and bad points and a lot of examples.  From Football Outsiders, very legit outfit and no particular ax to grind  Linky  Good article! After reading it, I could imagine Barkley being successful in a rhythm offense, like the one the 49ers employed during the '80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Good article! After reading it, I could imagine Barkley being successful in a rhythm offense, like the one the 49ers employed during the '80s. Â The Bills have been running a rhythm method offense for over a decade. That's where we pull out just before we score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBackupQB Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/college-football-rapidreports/20039051/big-east-notebook-syracuse-coach-doug-marrone-wishes-uscs-matt-barkley-left-early-for-nfl  ""Last October, Barkley shredded the Orange secondary with 324 yards and five touchdowns. During Monday's Big East coaches' teleconference, Marrone indicated that Barkley, not Robert Griffin III, would have been considered the top quarterback in last April's NFL Draft alongside Andrew Luck""  Read the article he continues to rave about Barkley....  And Buddy Nix mas a man Crush On Matt Barkley  and Barkley is also a guy you can trade back into the first rd to get while holding onto the 8th pick,,,,  its practically a done deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 after Barkley has his pro day there will be no trading back into the first round to get him.....the Bills may have to jump up a few spots actually......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 and Barkley is also a guy you can trade back into the first rd to get while holding onto the 8th pick,,,, Â its practically a done deal I agreed with you until you said that. There's no way Geno AND Barkley make it out of the top 10. The Cards have already stated they are high on Barkley too. I hope they get him, I don't want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Its a pipe dream to believe he will be there late into the first round. If the Raiders dont take him before, the Cards are going to take him at 7, so do with that information what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 http://www.cbssports...t-early-for-nfl  ""Last October, Barkley shredded the Orange secondary with 324 yards and five touchdowns. During Monday's Big East coaches' teleconference, Marrone indicated that Barkley, not Robert Griffin III, would have been considered the top quarterback in last April's NFL Draft alongside Andrew Luck""  Read the article he continues to rave about Barkley....  And Buddy Nix mas a man Crush On Matt Barkley  and Barkley is also a guy you can trade back into the first rd to get while holding onto the 8th pick,,,,  its practically a done deal  I don't know where they got those numbers from, but they're completely off. He threw for less than 200 yards but 6 tds. http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/480322/matt-barkley  And again, what is up with people not wanting a QB at #8 but then trading back in the 1st to get him? It makes zero sense. Why risk losing him? And if you don't fell comfortable taking him at #8, why are you drafting him i nthe 1st place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 As I said if we want one of the top 2 QB's in this class, we are going to have to trade UP. You guys listen to the media talking heads, NFL teams don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 If your money is on Barkley it's fool's money. The Bills are going to suck this year so I'd wait until next year to grab a QB in the 1st round. Too many holes on this team and no franchise QB's available in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Â And again, what is up with people not wanting a QB at #8 but then trading back in the 1st to get him? It makes zero sense. Why risk losing him? And if you don't fell comfortable taking him at #8, why are you drafting him i nthe 1st place? Â Â i don't know.....the trade back/get a qb in the 2nd round sentiment scares me. Â grab a guy at #8, lets quit messing around with the most important position on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPCinTULLY Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Another California QB? Because the Bills have done sooo good with them as of late i.e Rob Johnson and Trent Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Its a pipe dream to believe he will be there late into the first round. If the Raiders dont take him before, the Cards are going to take him at 7, so do with that information what you will. Â I'm going to print it out and rub it all over myself. That ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) Another California QB? Because the Bills have done sooo good with them as of late i.e Rob Johnson and Trent Edwards  weak comparisons abound. Aaron Rogers and Tony Romo are from Cali as well FTR.  and the king of all kings Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. Edited March 15, 2013 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Barkley 11tds 1 int 71% passes completed against Marrone. 2-0 also. Geno Smith 5 tds 5 ints 56% 0-3 against Marrone. One more thing about Nassib........He`s a DOME Q.B. and he comes from Philly. I lived there a few yrs and it`s Tropical compared to Buff . I lived in S.Buffalo till I was 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's proven that guys whose names begin with "M" (like Matt ... or Mark ...) from USC are terrible. This is what the Kipers and McShays of the world won't tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I don't know where they got those numbers from, but they're completely off. He threw for less than 200 yards but 6 tds. http://espn.go.com/c...22/matt-barkley  And again, what is up with people not wanting a QB at #8 but then trading back in the 1st to get him? It makes zero sense. Why risk losing him? And if you don't fell comfortable taking him at #8, why are you drafting him i nthe 1st place? With Barkley, I agree with that. But when I hear Schopp use the same logic to say "just go ahead and draft Nassib in the 1st round", I gurgle vomit. I'm ok with either Barkley or Smith in the 1st, but I'm not the one who needs to get this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeisterHollow Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 after Barkley has his pro day there will be no trading back into the first round to get him.....the Bills may have to jump up a few spots actually......... Â Yes - that is really what I'm afraid of, that not only Geno Smith goes, to say Oakland, which would leave Philly and Arizona - not to mention the Browns - all ahead of us and potentially looking at QB. Barkley has been so far under the radar, and I feel like teams like Buffalo are crossing their fingers and toes hoping that he continues to be overlooked, so that they'll get lucky and have him fall to them at 8. Truth is, I suspect Barkley is higher on a lot of team's boards than Smith is. He is the only QB I'd be happy with the Bills trading up to get. If, by some great fortuen that has thus far eluded the Bills, Barkley falls to 8, there will be no hesitation; the Bills will run to the podium with the selection. Â If they can't get him, however, then I'm okay with them going with a QB in the 2nd or 3rd. There are other QB's I think have a real shot at being good NFL QB's in the draft (Manuel, Nassib, Scott, Jones, Glennon) but it is equally scarry to think of the Bills really liking and believing in a guy (one of the above) and thinking he'll be there in the 2nd or 3rd, and then miss out on him because they waited. That would really suck. And, while I'm talking about what COULD suck - I could easily see the Patriots using their first rounder on, say, Barkley, if he were still available, or another QB with a high ceiling, just to screw the Bills and Jets. Think about it - both teams are in bad shape at QB (Buffalo FAR worse), and New England would, with one pick, totally take away the Bills ability to compete. Â Lots to things to hope for and fear - that is why this time of year is so fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 With Barkley, I agree with that. But when I hear Schopp use the same logic to say "just go ahead and draft Nassib in the 1st round", I gurgle vomit. Â I'm ok with either Barkley or Smith in the 1st, but I'm not the one who needs to get this right. Yeah Mayocks 5th ranked QB in a weak class. Thats who I want . The Dome QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) Its a pipe dream to believe he will be there late into the first round. If the Raiders dont take him before, the Cards are going to take him at 7, so do with that information what you will. Best player available pls. Just run the Syracuse hurry-up, read option offense with T Jack for a season and see what happens. Bills are going to suck this year, so lets just get some high quality bodies in here. I see a quick mobile O Lineman being taken # 1. With Cordy on the right and a better Cordy on the left, you can run a fast paced O. Let Brad Smith run it , Tebow style. Why not? The Pats and Phins will be loaded and Marrone gets a pass for this year anyway. Lets have some fun. Edited March 15, 2013 by 8and8Forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Another California QB? Because the Bills have done sooo good with them as of late i.e Rob Johnson and Trent Edwards  Of all the legitimate reasons to be critical of Barkley you thought typing this narrow-minded pile of poo was the one to best represent your stance... awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Of all the legitimate reasons to be critical of Barkley you thought typing this narrow-minded pile of poo was the one to best represent your stance... awesome. Yeah it`s getting old. Probably wants the domer QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I don't know where they got those numbers from, but they're completely off. He threw for less than 200 yards but 6 tds. http://espn.go.com/c...22/matt-barkley  And again, what is up with people not wanting a QB at #8 but then trading back in the 1st to get him? It makes zero sense. Why risk losing him? And if you don't fell comfortable taking him at #8, why are you drafting him i nthe 1st place?  Look at the date of the article. They are referencing what Barkley did against Syracuse in 2011.  GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) http://www.cbssports...t-early-for-nfl  ""Last October, Barkley shredded the Orange secondary with 324 yards and five touchdowns. During Monday's Big East coaches' teleconference, Marrone indicated that Barkley, not Robert Griffin III, would have been considered the top quarterback in last April's NFL Draft alongside Andrew Luck""  Read the article he continues to rave about Barkley....  And Buddy Nix mas a man Crush On Matt Barkley  and Barkley is also a guy you can trade back into the first rd to get while holding onto the 8th pick,,,,  its practically a done deal  Barkley and Nassib are not starter material at the next level. Simply put...they are too short, stocky, and slow with average NFL arms.  There's no way that either of these guys are the QB the Bills are targeting. Doug Marrone coached on the Saints who had Drew Brees as their QB. He knows what basic physical skills a QB must have to be a viable successful NFL starter. Edited March 15, 2013 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 after Barkley has his pro day there will be no trading back into the first round to get him.....the Bills may have to jump up a few spots actually......... Â All depends on his shoulder. There were serious concerns around the league. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 My moneys on Nassib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Look at the date of the article. They are referencing what Barkley did against Syracuse in 2011. Â GO BILLS!!! And when did he throw the other 5tds against them? 11 tds and 1 pick. .Ge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Barkley and Nassib are not starter material at the next level. Simply put...they are too short, stocky, and slow with average NFL arms. Â There's no way that either of these guys are the QB the Bills are targeting. Doug Marrone coached on the Saints who had Drew Brees as their QB. He knows what basic physical skills a QB must have to be a viable successful NFL starter. Â Brees is shorter than both. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I just dont think Barkley has the arm to play in Buffalo  the guy to look at to trade back into the first for is Bray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 As I said if we want one of the top 2 QB's in this class, we are going to have to trade UP. You guys listen to the media talking heads, NFL teams don't. Â Totally agree. Everyone knows it's a QB driven league. If teams drafted Locker, Gabbert and Ponder so high...it baffles me why the talking heads in media assume the 2013 class will drift out of the top 10. Please. Geno and Barkley will be drafted before #8. I suspect the Bills will be able to get Nassib, Glennon and Wilson at #8 if they so choose. IF they don't draft a QB at #8 they will risk not getting one at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Totally agree. Everyone knows it's a QB driven league. If teams drafted Locker, Gabbert and Ponder so high...it baffles me why the talking heads in media assume the 2013 class will drift out of the top 10. Please. Geno and Barkley will be drafted before #8. I suspect the Bills will be able to get Nassib, Glennon and Wilson at #8 if they so choose. IF they don't draft a QB at #8 they will risk not getting one at all. If it comes down to Glennon or nASSib . I~ll take Glennon in a heartbeat over the slower ,shorter,weaker arm DOME QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 EJ Manuel for me, but he might be off the board at the 8th pick. BPA at 8 and whoever is around in the second. Â Â Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Another California QB? Because the Bills have done sooo good with them as of late i.e Rob Johnson and Trent Edwards  Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Warm weather QBs in cold cities doing just fine.  COACHING is the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It is my guess that the QB the bills want is a second tier guy because you can't count on getting a Smith or Barkley at 8. So would they cut Fitz if there was a chance the QB they want most might not be there, I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 If it comes down to Glennon or nASSib . I~ll take Glennon in a heartbeat over the slower ,shorter,weaker arm DOME QB Â Me too. I like the guy that can throw frozen ropes down the field. Nassib did perform for Marrone and they threw a ton of short passes and screens. If that's the offense Marrone is bringing to BLo then i can see them grabbing Nassib as their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 If it comes down to Glennon or nASSib . I~ll take Glennon in a heartbeat over the slower ,shorter,weaker arm DOME QB Â weaker arm dome QB, lol, brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 And when did he throw the other 5tds against them? 11 tds and 1 pick. . Ge  He had 5 TDs in 2011 and 6 TDs with an INT in 2012 vs. Syracuse. That's 11 TDs, 1 pick vs. Syracuse the last two years.  GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Nassib is garbage, reminds me of Fitz with his inconsistent arm. He doesn't put any touch on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts