Jim in Anchorage Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Has anyone noticed yet how much Pettine resembles Jimmy Spags? Is it possible he may do a dr strangelove and involuntarily yell J-E-T-S at his first Bills press conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Has anyone noticed yet how much Pettine resembles Jimmy Spags? Or that you've never seen them in the same room together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I really like the Pettine selection as DC for a few reasons and I've heard a lot of positives about the hire, but I tried to find some truth to the talks about it being more Rex's D than Pettine's. I came across an article in the NY Daily News that stated the following: "Pettine and Ryan have been a successful team for years, finishing first, third, fifth and eighth in total defense in the past four years. Pettine became the primary play-caller through the years". http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ex-jet-pettine-hired-bills-d-coordinator-article-1.1236288 What concerns me is that their D got worse as Pettine's authority/play-calling became more prevalent. I know a case can be made that Revis went down early this past year and that some of their players are past their prime, but is this a true indication of Pettine rather than the bluster we've heard to date about how stout "his" D was in NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Read the Buffalo News piece on the homepage. It's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Is this quote from Damien Woody an indication that we'll draft another CB early? "The Jets have been masters of the “overload blitz,” in which they send more rushers on one edge of the offensive line than can be blocked. While New York has ranked among the top 10 in sacks only once in the past four years, it has excelled at creating pressure and forcing the quarterback to unload quickly for measly gains underneath the coverage. “If you want to know the key to that defense, it’s the secondary,” Woody said. “If those guys can cover, it allows Mike Pettine to draw those exotic blitzes. That’s one thing you really haven’t seen from Buffalo. It hasn’t been an exotic-type blitz team. That’s what you’re going to see out of Buffalo, but you need guys who can cover.” http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130110/SPORTS/130119968/two-bills-drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Is this quote from Damien Woody an indication that we'll draft another CB early? "The Jets have been masters of the “overload blitz,” in which they send more rushers on one edge of the offensive line than can be blocked. While New York has ranked among the top 10 in sacks only once in the past four years, it has excelled at creating pressure and forcing the quarterback to unload quickly for measly gains underneath the coverage. “If you want to know the key to that defense, it’s the secondary,” Woody said. “If those guys can cover, it allows Mike Pettine to draw those exotic blitzes. That’s one thing you really haven’t seen from Buffalo. It hasn’t been an exotic-type blitz team. That’s what you’re going to see out of Buffalo, but you need guys who can cover.” http://www.buffalone...two-bills-drive When coach after GM after former player after coach after GM insists you can never have enough DBs, this should come as no surprise to anyone other than Bill from NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I guess we need guys who can cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Any good CB's in FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Any good CB's in FA? A rough list of who is a UFA at CB. Aqib Talib Brent Grimes Sean Smith Chris Houston Cary Williams Derek Cox Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie E.J. Biggers Mike Jenkins Bradley Fletcher Keenan Lewis Sheldon Brown Quentin Jammer Brice McCain Leodis McKelvin Tony Carter Terence Newman Kyle Arrington Tracy Porter Antoine Cason Rashean Mathis Jacob Lacey Pacman Jones Jerraud Powers Joselio Hanson Darius Butler Captain Munnerlyn Stanford Routt Marcus Trufant Leigh Bodden Chris Owens Shawntae Spencer Kelvin Hayden William Middleton Pat Lee Cedric Griffin Greg Toler D.J. Moore Michael Adams Drayton Florence Ryan Mouton Zackary Bowman Michael Coe Alan Ball Will Allen Drew Coleman Alphonso Smith Chris Carr Chris Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Any good CB's in FA? Maybe Grimes if he fully recovers from injury: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/brent-grimes-done-for-season-with-achilles-injury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Still not a done deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Any good CB's in FA? Here's the PFF list, not really a lot to work with. Even if a good CB is available, you have to throw $50M+ at them (see Carr, Finnegan, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Still not a done deal? Who are you, Sal Maiorana? Is this was any more widely reported somebody would be calling to tell you personally. The Bills haven't scheduled a news conference, but there's no reason to believe it isn't a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Just my opinion, but I think due to the fact that Hackett hasn't been officially announced either, Marrone is waiting to get his entire staff in place (coordinators + assistants) before he announces them in one big group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Just my opinion, but I think due to the fact that Hackett hasn't been officially announced either, Marrone is waiting to get his entire staff in place (coordinators + assistants) before he announces them in one big group. That makes sense. I didn't catch that Hackett hadn't been announced yet, frankly. I've just looked for the last day and seen nothing other than Mort's tweet referenced, then eventually other people saying "multiple sources indicate" for the Pettine hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Just my opinion, but I think due to the fact that Hackett hasn't been officially announced either, Marrone is waiting to get his entire staff in place (coordinators + assistants) before he announces them in one big group. Based upon what Marrone said during his introductory press conference, this does make perfect sense. The coordinators are not the "stars" -- it's all about the entire staff "bleeding Bills blue." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 A rough list of who is a UFA at CB. Aqib Talib Brent Grimes Sean Smith Chris Houston Cary Williams Derek Cox Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie E.J. Biggers Mike Jenkins Bradley Fletcher Keenan Lewis Sheldon Brown Quentin Jammer Brice McCain Leodis McKelvin Tony Carter Terence Newman Kyle Arrington Tracy Porter Antoine Cason Rashean Mathis Jacob Lacey Pacman Jones Jerraud Powers Joselio Hanson Darius Butler Captain Munnerlyn Stanford Routt Marcus Trufant Leigh Bodden Chris Owens Shawntae Spencer Kelvin Hayden William Middleton Pat Lee Cedric Griffin Greg Toler D.J. Moore Michael Adams Drayton Florence Ryan Mouton Zackary Bowman Michael Coe Alan Ball Will Allen Drew Coleman Alphonso Smith Chris Carr Chris Johnson That's a long list of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 And there's your official announcement, via vtext. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 And there's your official announcement, via vtext. And just in case people don't believe you: http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Mike-Pettine-named-Buffalo-Bills-defensive-coordinator/b80953b6-1278-4c5b-8796-fbcad28028d8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Apparently Marrone flew to NJ to meet with Pettin immediately after his introductory press conference. I guess he really wanted him. Edited January 10, 2013 by BRAWNDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Interesting comments from our new DC http://blogs.buffalo...ign=blog_header http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Focus-Mike-Pettine-Sit-Down-Interview/355b2269-c24f-40a6-98d0-8a09404f1f21 Edited January 10, 2013 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) And just in case people don't believe you: http://www.buffalobi...96-fbcad28028d8 Sal Maiorana @salmaiorana The #Bills formally announce the hirings of Pettine and Hackett as coordinators....and I'm the BATMAN! Actually this guy is even better! PTR Edited January 10, 2013 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Interesting comments from our new DC http://blogs.buffalo...ign=blog_header http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Focus-Mike-Pettine-Sit-Down-Interview/355b2269-c24f-40a6-98d0-8a09404f1f21 good start - sounds like what wed expect. i look forward to hearing about/seeing its execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Interesting comments from our new DC http://www.buffalobi...d0-8a09404f1f21 Just came here to link that interview video. LOTS of good stuff in there. LOTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Just came here to link that interview video. LOTS of good stuff in there. LOTS. I hope everyone on this board clicks and listens; it might be an end to the hand-wringing over whether we're a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. One thing that strikes me, is that our three new coaches all sound really, really articulate and sharp. Not your father's Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 This is all different and listening to all this makes me damn happy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 “I just know what our system is going to bring to the table. I think the fans will be excited about it because we’re going to be high energy and we are going to be an attacking style of defense. We’re going to dictate to the offense. We’re not going to sit back and let offenses dictate to us, so if you’re going beat us it’s because you’ve taken our best punch.” That's all I need to hear. OC still scares me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 “I just know what our system is going to bring to the table. I think the fans will be excited about it because we’re going to be high energy and we are going to be an attacking style of defense. We’re going to dictate to the offense. We’re not going to sit back and let offenses dictate to us, so if you’re going beat us it’s because you’ve taken our best punch.” That's all I need to hear. OC still scares me though. One of the interesting things about both Hackett and Pettine is that they are each sons of football coaches. I am feeling pretty good about our coaching staff right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I hope everyone on this board clicks and listens; it might be an end to the hand-wringing over whether we're a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. One thing that strikes me, is that our three new coaches all sound really, really articulate and sharp. Not your father's Bills. Speaking of... Another thing I noticed and liked was that both of our Coordinators are sons of successful coaches. I know it doesnt mean much, but I like that these guys are "Football Life" type guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyrich Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 If this comment was already made, my bad. So I knew I recognized Mike Pettine, I couldn't place where. Now I do. He is from North Penn High School, locally here outside of Philly. Our new D coordinator was the coach of North Penn when ESPN ran an unusual special about a high school football team for one season. That season was North Penn here outside of Philly, and Mike P was the coach. It was a great show. Awesome. North Penn High School is an awesome program as well. Some one should look up that show on youtube or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Franchize Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) I hate that too. however, I believe the Jets play multiple fronts with both 3 and 4 linemen. The biggest hope is that they move Mario around more. I believe he was averaging a sack a game in Wade's defense before he got hurt. I agree. With Mario we can move around and show both 3 man and 4 man fronts. It would be a little upsetting if we had been drafting LB's built for a 4-3 but fortunately our LB's are built for NCAA Division 3 football. Our current talent should translate well for what he is accustom too. And could he make Gilmore the shut down corner we want him to be? Edited January 10, 2013 by XXL Franchize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyrich Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 If this comment was already made, my bad. So I knew I recognized Mike Pettine, I couldn't place where. Now I do. He is from North Penn High School, locally here outside of Philly. Our new D coordinator was the coach of North Penn when ESPN ran an unusual special about a high school football team for one season. That season was North Penn here outside of Philly, and Mike P was the coach. It was a great show. Awesome. North Penn High School is an awesome program as well. Some one should look up that show on youtube or something. Found it. the full documentary is awesome. The attached video is for 7 minutes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I hope everyone on this board clicks and listens; it might be an end to the hand-wringing over whether we're a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. One thing that strikes me, is that our three new coaches all sound really, really articulate and sharp. Not your father's Bills. Haven't listened to the interview yet, but read most of the quotes. Very enthused by what I've seen. My reservations about Pettine were 1.) How much of the D was run by Rex Ryan, and 2.) Is he a 3-4 guy? Because if so, that sets us back. #1 won't be answered until we see the D in games, so I won't worry about it till then. But I'm definitely not worried about #2 after Pettine's comments. I feel pretty good about this hire. Pettine has been able to learn from a lot of greats, and hopefully he's ready to come into his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Found it. the full documentary is awesome. The attached video is for 7 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_vuVLGTXg Great stuff. I will have to watch the entire documentary. Based on the interview on BB.com, Junior was 0-5 against his Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Interesting comments from our new DC http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Focus-Mike-Pettine-Sit-Down-Interview/355b2269-c24f-40a6-98d0-8a09404f1f21 This guy's saying all the right things. Like him already. I especially love the stuff he said towards the end of the clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Just win baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Just my opinion, but I think due to the fact that Hackett hasn't been officially announced either, Marrone is waiting to get his entire staff in place (coordinators + assistants) before he announces them in one big group. Then they'll have cucumber sandwiches and tea with the media. The servers will wear white gloves. It's gonna be great! good start - sounds like what wed expect. i look forward to hearing about/seeing its execution. Whose execution? Edwards? Wanny? They should cancel the tea if there's gonna be blood. So I knew I recognized Mike Pettine, I couldn't place where. Now I do. Yes we know. He's a dead ringer for Jimmy Spagnola. Is he a 3-4 guy? Because if so, that sets us back. I've kinda been playing wacka mole with this point but if Wade Phillips, Dom Capers, and Mike Nolan can successfully transition a team from the 4-3 to the 3-4 in one offseason, why can't Pettine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) wgr550 interview going on now is really inspiring for Bills fans check the replay if you're not listening live. Edited January 11, 2013 by JinWPB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 What concerns me is that their D got worse as Pettine's authority/play-calling became more prevalent. I know a case can be made that Revis went down early this past year and that some of their players are past their prime, but is this a true indication of Pettine rather than the bluster we've heard to date about how stout "his" D was in NY? When your offense cannot stay on the field and give good field positions to the opponents, you cannot expect your defense to bail you out all the time (The same story applies to the Bills too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I had posted a link earlier in this thread that it Pettine's "system" is actually predicated around the players he has at his disposal. I think good DC's in today's NFL play a hybrid system that is based around their core personnel and adjusts to the situation on the ground. I like the Pettine hire...a lot. Here's hoping he turns out to be a super aggressive version of Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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