Magox Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Malta, I would say there's a big difference between the 21st and the 28th pick...which are both first rounders. I agree with you San jose. I'd much rather have had the 21st pick than the 28th pick. We probably can't get Pettigrew with the 28th pick. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 My only concern is that the #21st pick would have gotten Pettigrew. No way he falls to us now. With so many draft picks and so many holes to fill at least we can actually draft the best player available. We have options now: 11: DL (Orapko, Raji, Brown) 28: OT (Britton, Oher (if he falls)) 42: TE (Nelson, Cook, Coffman) or: 11: OT (Oher, Britton (too early though) 28: TE (Pettigrew, Ingram, Nelson) 42: DE (Sidbury, Barwin, Johnson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We lost a LT who screwed us last year, was unhappy, no dedication to team.. statistically among the worst LT in sacks allowed. Many false starts, holding calls . . He was a FA pick up right ? ...so from nothing we got 3 good picks . I applaud the Bills for this move. They offered him good money but I wouldn't throw the bank at him with the stunt he pulled on the team last year. Your opinion fits mine the best, so you are brilliant. Throw in the fact that we'll get 3 picks for an UDFA tight end... We did all right. Let's move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 One of the worst trades of all time. Trading an all pro LT tackle in his prime? Horrible. Oh yeah, here is the other bad news: the current front office will be selecting the players for these draft choices. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 My only concern is that the #21st pick would have gotten Pettigrew. No way he falls to us now. With so many draft picks and so many holes to fill at least we can actually draft the best player available. We have options now: 11: DL (Orapko, Raji, Brown) 28: OT (Britton, Oher (if he falls)) 42: TE (Nelson, Cook, Coffman) or: 11: OT (Oher, Britton (too early though) 28: TE (Pettigrew, Ingram, Nelson) 42: DE (Sidbury, Barwin, Johnson) You know what would be even better? Peters 11: Ayers 42: Ingram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone Animal Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I think the Eagles overpaid. After we sign Michael Vick, the DL's will be held back on a containment rush so that it won't matter who we have blocking. Fill the team with waiver wire linemen, and let Vick, Lynch and TO win a Super Bowl and become the symbols of WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Yeah,that shows the athletic ability Peters has. Problem is he doesn't have the work ethic and desire to match. He will always show flashses but never live up to his potential long-term IMO. I'm sure he went from special teams player to Pro bowl left tackle without even trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJ91 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Abbey Road. The first thing that I did when I went to London was have my picture taken walking across Abbey Road (as many other tourists have). Very cool. It certainly has nothing to do with the Bills, but I always liked the Beetles myself. I watched Paul McCartney doing a recent concert on some cable station the other night. He has to be in his mid 60's at least, by now. You could never tell, he cranked out hit after hit and sounded awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 One of the worst trades of all time. Trading an all pro LT tackle in his prime? Horrible. Oh yeah, here is the other bad news: the current front office will be selecting the players for these draft choices. Good luck. In his prime that quit on his team last year and when he was gone the Bills were 5-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddoublee Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 One of the worst trades of all time. Trading an all pro LT tackle in his prime? Horrible. Oh yeah, here is the other bad news: the current front office will be selecting the players for these draft choices. Good luck. lol. very true. there is no such thing as fair value when you get unproven draft picks for a proven NFL starter w 2 pro bowls. Bills Lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimGraham Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Everybody ... Just wanted to let you know things are happening so fast and my phone is ringing so much I won't be able to post every link today. Please check the AFC East blog for updates as I learn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 My only concern is that the #21st pick would have gotten Pettigrew. No way he falls to us now. With so many draft picks and so many holes to fill at least we can actually draft the best player available. We have options now: 11: DL (Orapko, Raji, Brown) 28: OT (Britton, Oher (if he falls)) 42: TE (Nelson, Cook, Coffman) or: 11: OT (Oher, Britton (too early though) 28: TE (Pettigrew, Ingram, Nelson) 42: DE (Sidbury, Barwin, Johnson) So now do we keep the 11th overall due to a huge need for an OT? If Oher's still there, we have to take him, but if not, listen to offers for teams to trade up for our 11th? Thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I can't wait to watch Peters get destroyed against the NYG twice a year. Then sprinkle in a little Dallas 3-4 pass rush a couple of times. Sorry Jason the probowl handouts are over. I only wish you knew what the hell you are talking about. I'd feel better. Unfortunately you are wrong and he is a dominant player and we got shafted. This sux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Everybody ... Just wanted to let you know things are happening so fast and my phone is ringing so much I won't be able to post every link today. Please check the AFC East blog for updates as I learn them. Damn, what else is going on??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 So now do we keep the 11th overall due to a huge need for an OT? If Oher's still there, we have to take him, but if not, listen to offers for teams to trade up for our 11th? Thoughts anyone? What huge need? We have Walker, he'll step right in! Chambers to RT McKinney at LG. I'm looking for a 4th round interior OL, that will be fine. Let's go get a WR and TE in the first so Trent will have plenty of weapons. Actually, I think Moreno and Pettigrew will be the best draft! That way we can trade Freddie too! And then in the second we can take a DB that has "great value"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 In his prime that quit on his team last year and when he was gone the Bills were 5-1. Peters started the last five games of that 5-1 stretch. The Bills' record in games he missed the last two seasons, including his first-half injury against the Giants: 2-3. 2007: Giants 38, Bills 21; Eagles 17, Bills 9. 2008: Bills 34, Seahawks 10; Bills 30, Broncos 23; Pats 13, Bills 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 So you would have rather just paid the guy that burned his team LAST year and the guy that still have two years on his contract who would have probably sat out even though the Bills were offering him around $9 million a year? Makes sense to me. And people thought T.O. was a cancer. My belief is that an organization that is striving for greatness would have recognized Peters importance and would not have driven this car off the road. This organization's lack of leadership and vision is glaring,and will result in continued mediocity (at best) in the coming years. Hmm....maybe if they didn't make such a HUGE mistake and overvalue and overpay Dockery, the Bills could have paid Peters like the All-Pro that he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 My only concern is that the #21st pick would have gotten Pettigrew. No way he falls to us now. With so many draft picks and so many holes to fill at least we can actually draft the best player available. We have options now: 11: DL (Orapko, Raji, Brown) 28: OT (Britton, Oher (if he falls)) 42: TE (Nelson, Cook, Coffman) or: 11: OT (Oher, Britton (too early though) 28: TE (Pettigrew, Ingram, Nelson) 42: DE (Sidbury, Barwin, Johnson) Maybe we can trade our 3rd and Philly's third back to them in order to jump to 21? How does that work on the ol' draft value chart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Everybody ... Just wanted to let you know things are happening so fast and my phone is ringing so much I won't be able to post every link today. Please check the AFC East blog for updates as I learn them. The link: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast And this should tell us all we need to know about the relationship between Peters and the Bills: Peters likes what he's hearing from EaglesPeters is meeting with the Philadelphia Eagles sans agent Eugene Parker, and talks are going extremely well. So well, in fact, that the deal could be announced Friday. The initial expectation was it could take until Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 F-ck this team. Time to take a couple days off from being a Bills fan. See y'all when my anger has subsided a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 So now do we keep the 11th overall due to a huge need for an OT? If Oher's still there, we have to take him, but if not, listen to offers for teams to trade up for our 11th? Thoughts anyone? I think you take him, but I don't know enough about him honestly. I'm sure he'll still be there. I wish we could grab Pettigrew in the first round but it won't happen. We're left in limbo at #28. My guess is we take Unger/Mack there since it's good value, then take a DE in round 2 and Coffman in 3 (although I'd love to deal a 4th for Scheffler and let him compete with Fine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 What huge need? We have Walker, he'll step right in! Chambers to RT McKinney at LG. I'm looking for a 4th round interior OL, that will be fine. Let's go get a WR and TE in the first so Trent will have plenty of weapons. Actually, I think Moreno and Pettigrew will be the best draft! That way we can trade Freddie too! And then in the second we can take a DB that has "great value"! Walker does not have the footwork to play LT. He will get beaten by speed rushers. So, we now need to keep a back in to help on the left side, one less outlet for Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonramz Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 terrible... we finally have a solid LT and we trade him b/c we are too cheap to pay him.... Coulda had him for 9 mil/yr last year.... oops, how are ya gonna market this one Russ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Walker does not have the footwork to play LT. He will get beaten by speed rushers. So, we now need to keep a back in to help on the left side, one less outlet for Trent. ummmm, I guess I forgot something: /sarcasm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The view from the other side, courtesy of ESPN NFC East blogger Matt Mosley: Peters will be a huge upgrade for Eagles Eagles fans have been waiting all offseason to see what their team would do with a surplus of cap room and draft picks. And on Friday, Andy Reid and Co. answered the bell by agreeing in principle on a trade that would bring Bills left tackle Jason Peters to Philadelphia. Peters At first blush, I think the Eagles made a solid deal in giving up the No. 28 overall pick and a fourth-rounder for Peters. I'll be anxious to see what pick the Bills receive in 2010, but no matter what, it appears the Eagles have solidified the most important position on the offensive line for the next five years or so. Peters has outplayed his contract in Buffalo and his ability warrants the type of contract he's about to receive (likely in the $11.5 million range). Quarterback Donovan McNabb reportedly wanted to take a wait-and-see approach as to what the Eagles might do to upgrade the offense. In my mind, Peters is a bigger upgrade than any receiver out there (Anquan Boldin and Braylon Edwards) would be. Peters, an undrafted player out of Arkansas, has emerged as one of the best left tackles in the game. Playing in Buffalo kept him under the radar, but now he'll have a chance to perform in front of national audiences on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Walker does not have the footwork to play LT. He will get beaten by speed rushers. So, we now need to keep a back in to help on the left side, one less outlet for Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 What you and others fail to understand is that Peters had no blocking assignment on that particular play. He did his job, which was to just stand there like a fat stupid load and watch Elam beeze by, unmolested, right to the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I only wish you knew what the hell you are talking about. I'd feel better. Unfortunately you are wrong and he is a dominant player and we got shafted. This sux! Dominant player when motivated... where was that motivation last year when he came from sitting on his fat butt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 From Tim's latest: Peters likes what he's hearing from Eagles "Peters is meeting with the Philadelphia Eagles sans agent Eugene Parker, and talks are going extremely well. So well, in fact, that the deal could be announced Friday. The initial expectation was it could take until Sunday. " More proof Peters didn't want to be in Buffalo anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 From Tim's latest: Peters likes what he's hearing from Eagles "Peters is meeting with the Philadelphia Eagles sans agent Eugene Parker, and talks are going extremely well. So well, in fact, that the deal could be announced Friday. The initial expectation was it could take until Sunday. " More proof Peters didn't want to be in Buffalo anymore? Tim's source said the contract with the Eagles is going to "make Peters very happy". Another source said it's likely to be around the 11.5 mil. That would have made him happy in Buffalo, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I was sitting at the 20 yard line, opposite that play. Don't have to remind me of that one. I also watched him dominate Umineoyra in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 6th rounder in 2010 is the undisclosed pick according to CBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 What you and others fail to understand is that Peters had no blocking assignment on that particular play. He did his job, which was to just stand there like a fat stupid load and watch Elam beeze by, unmolested, right to the QB. Yes, yes you are so right! I can't believe that the Eagles would consider him valuable enough to trade for, and then to pay. In fact, I don't understand why we let Dockery go since he did such a fine job on that play! You'd of thought we would have just cut JP and kept Dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Don't mind trading him. Just think we should have got A LOT more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Brutal. Just absolutely wretched. It breaks down like this.....we are a cold weather team that had a suckass OL for 15 or so years. Finally, we luck into a blocker with huge talented, a tough s.o.b. What to do? We trade him away for a few bu!!schit draft picks that we all know what Jauron and company will do with them. Bills Fans primarliy consist of blue collar raised tough guys. We sit in the elements and cheer our favorite team, and they look like a bunh of whatever the politically correct term for midgets is these days. Flbills, 1billsfan and all the rest of you Losman fans (in or out of the closet).....please hear this.....I am feeling your pain, and I mean this sincerely. Unless Trent is even better than I thought (and I think he is good), this really might seal the deal on his development. This really sucks. Oh well, any news about Donte Whitner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamK Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 F-ck this team. Time to take a couple days off from being a Bills fan. See y'all when my anger has subsided a bit. I am with you 100%. It's sickening. I feel just like the day we lost Drury and Briere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Brandon is an amatuer. This franchise is a joke. Even Detroit Lions fans have pity on us. RTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Just absolutely wretched. It breaks down like this.....we are a cold weather team that had a suckass OL for 15 or so years. Finally, we luck into a blocker with huge talented, a tough s.o.b. What to do? We trade him away for a few bu!!schit draft picks that we all know what Jauron and company will do with them. Bills Fans primarliy consist of blue collar raised tough guys. We sit in the elements and cheer our favorite team, and they look like a bunh of whatever the politically correct term for midgets is these days. Flbills, 1billsfan and all the rest of you Losman fans (in or out of the closet).....please hear this.....I am feeling your pain, and I mean this sincerely. Unless Trent is even better than I thought (and I think he is good), this really might seal the deal on his development. This really sucks. Oh well, any news about Donte Whitner? screw peters - chump plays (or sits) for the eagles now. i'm a bills fan... GO BILLSSS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Please. THIS is the day you are humiliated? Not the countless on the field mishaps or flops? No kidding. The Bills traded up to get JP Losman and McCargo and now humiliated? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 screw peters - chump plays (or sits) for the eagles now. i'm a bills fan... GO BILLSSS!!!! Me too Senator, and I want them to win every bit as much as you. We disagree on a player or 2, but the Bills matter more than this freaking idiot. I know this. The thing is, we don't have a left tackle and we haven't had a really good one since Wolford. Fina? He wad decent for a year or 2, but in all he was an undersized bag of s--t. And here we are, back to square 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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