11/20/2025 Bills @ Texans post game thread

[Nitro]

4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I don’t think the roster is the issue. I think we are horribly held back by incompetent coaching on all sides of the ball. Bring in Daboll. Shake it up

Daboll is not a HC material.  Have a friend who is a HUGE Giants fan.  He kept pointing out that Daboll was over his head in NY.   Great OC but HC?  I am not on board with that.  

[Jrb1979]

10 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

They allowed 261 yards of offense and 3 points in the 2nd half when a turnover already put them in FG range. Think you are not being realistic. That game was on the offense...they got chance after chance after chance in the 2nd half and kept squandering them.

That same offense that everyone keeps saying is one of the best in the league.  I get they were playing the top defense in the NFL but it was another game they struggled to put up points in the 2nd half. 

9 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I don’t think the roster is the issue. I think we are horribly held back by incompetent coaching on all sides of the ball. Bring in Daboll. Shake it up

The roster is definitely an issue. They weren't that good last year either. The big reason they went to the Championship game was a lot went right for them. Josh with his MVP season and  the high amount of turnovers by the defense. 

[Success]

We aren't able to pressure opposing QB's.  That really stands out.

 

I'd love to add, "but at least we're stout against the run."

 

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

That same offense that everyone keeps saying is one of the best in the league.  I get they were playing the top defense in the NFL but it was another game they struggled to put up points in the 2nd half. 

It's an offense that is among the best in the league when Allen is playing at an elite level.  The problem is NO QB in the history of the NFL can play at an elite level every week.  The Bills have chosen to not structure their roster to take full advantage of their uniquely gifted QB.  They have instead changed their offensive philosophy to compliment their defense while directing the lions share of resources to that defense.  Unfortunately they have failed at both efforts:  Their D is bad and they have not provided their MVP level QB with the weapons needed to fully exploit his skill set.

 

This is not rocket science and should be obvious to every Bills fans that's been paying attention to the last 6 years.  The alternative is to do what way to many Bills fans do:  nibble around at the edges of the problem by blaming injury's or Allen for not taking the easy completions.  Come on folks we know what the real problem is.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Success said:

We aren't able to pressure opposing QB's.  That really stands out.

 

I'd love to add, "but at least we're stout against the run."

 

And this was made numbingly obvious on that game changing end of the half TD drive by the Texans.  We generated no pass rush while playing McD's famous soft prevent defense which made a back up QB look like Mahommes.

 

 

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

 

And Josh replies "what the hell are we doing here"

[BillsVet]

In a way, this game somewhat reminds me of the Week 4 2024 game at Baltimore.  Whereas Baltimore brought it on blitzes IIRC, last night it was from the entire Houston front-4.  Texans and Baltimore's coverage was tight although Buffalo's WRs couldn't separate in either game and Josh got knocked around each time.  

 

The following week at Houston was bad with Josh going something like 9 of 30 passing, which prompted the trade for Amari Cooper.  

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Im actually starting to get a feeling that Brady being fired isn’t impossible. I never would have expected that to be the case but I’m getting a feeling it could happen 

[Livinginthepast]

56 minutes ago, Casey D said:

And 8 sacks and a sh*tload of penalties.  Should have lost by 20.  Yet 1st and 10 at Houston 20 with 20 seconds to play and a TD wins.  Really amazing they got that close, as -3 on turnovers alone and teams win just 4.3% of time.

This was the problem yet again. Our defense doesnt know how to force fumbles anymore. We never seem to want to smack out the ball but cannot wrap up either. Our soft zone rarely is close enough to get us INTs. Our easy to read defense doesnt disguise anything so we rarely get the misthrows by opposing QBs (like Allen's deflected INT last night). Hell our DBs never turn around in pass coverage to get INTs on underthrows either. All from a defensive coach??

[Low Positive]

I'm beyond angry, even after sleeping on it. For the second time in three games, what I saw was a team that would rather lose than play hard enough to meet the urgency of the moment. The Texans had their season on time line last night, and we didn't match their effort. If the team doesn't care, maybe I should stop caring, too. 

13 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Im actually starting to get a feeling that Brady being fired isn’t impossible. I never would have expected that to be the case but I’m getting a feeling it could happen 

This time, there is no in-house candidate to take over mid-season, and it is almost impossible to bring in someone from the outside who doesn't know the plays they are supposed to call. We're stuck, at least for this year.

[Georgia Bill]

I can't recall any team at this point in the season with a 7-4 record and a very good chance of making the playoffs firing their head coach, offensive coordinator, or defensive coordinator.  For everyone posting that they want one of those - all I can says is dream on.   

[DapperCam]

8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

This time, there is no in-house candidate to take over mid-season, and it is almost impossible to bring in someone from the outside who doesn't know the plays they are supposed to call. We're stuck, at least for this year.

Daboll + Kromer could absolutely do it, but I don’t think McDermott is friendly with Daboll anymore.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Georgia Bill said:

I can't recall any team at this point in the season with a 7-4 record and a very good chance of making the playoffs firing their head coach, offensive coordinator, or defensive coordinator.  For everyone posting that they want one of those - all I can says is dream on.   

McDermott is not getting fired.

 

I would say very slight chance Brady does.

 

McDermott and Josh both basically called him out after last nights game, which isn't great for him.

 

I of course don't think he will if I had to bet , but I wouldn't rule it out

[Sestak4ever]

We are lacking the basics of blocking and tackling. So many whiffs on blocks. Also Houston tackled and wrapped up continuously. Us, on the other hand, were making contact and getting run through. Tons of missed tackles. Been seeing that all year.

[Coach Tuesday]

33 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Im actually starting to get a feeling that Brady being fired isn’t impossible. I never would have expected that to be the case but I’m getting a feeling it could happen 

 

Last night's game reminded me of the home night game against the Jets where plays were coming in late, the offense was totally out of sync and dysfunctional but hit a couple of explosives to make it look better than it was, the defense failed in big moments, and right afterwards Greg Roman was fired.  So it's not out of the question in my mind.

[BullBuchanan]

0.0% chance this guy passes a PED test.

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

37 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Im actually starting to get a feeling that Brady being fired isn’t impossible. I never would have expected that to be the case but I’m getting a feeling it could happen 

There will be changes this offseason, not buying the argument some make that we're going to run it back because of the new stadium.

[SCBills]

37 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Im actually starting to get a feeling that Brady being fired isn’t impossible. I never would have expected that to be the case but I’m getting a feeling it could happen 

Just do it.  It literally cannot be worse. 
 

He works with Kromer on the run game and Kromer will still be here.  
 

Josh calling his own plays could likely replicate Five Man Protection Mesh Brady’s simplistic bs in the passing game. 
 

Let Joe go take the LSU or PSU job, hit the recruiting trail and gtfo of Buffalo. 

[Bills!Win!]

The 1999 Buffalo Bills were 7-4 at one point 

 

The 2023 bills were 6-6 at one point

 

The sky seems like it’s falling but the world will not end if we play on the Road in the playoffs.

 

Winning the division hasn’t helped us make the Super Bowl and last five years has it?

 

Maybe once, and for all, the bills need to have the underdog mentality to make it to the Super Bowl, ironically, on the road in the playoffs and no playoff games at highmark 

[QLBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

 

Yeah but they're not gonna fire the head coach. That's the problem.

 

 

Actually, that's not what the stats show.

 

 

QBs are typically team captains. They're typically the highest-paid player on the team. They're the one position that's expected to be available for every media session. Josh is 20% of the salary cap.

 

All of the above come with certain responsibilities.

 

 

The Josh "haters" (actually there's not really any such thing) come out after losses as do those who believe he can do no wrong.

 

Many people here can say that Josh is their favorite player ever... but also that he's not playing up to his standards.

 

 

 

Josh is a great guy. Dawk is a nice guy... on a nice team with lots of nice guys coaching and playing.

 

 

Most of it falls on the coaches. It's their job to motivate, to scheme, to game plan, and to put the players in a position of success.

 

The coaches have failed miserably in those areas. The caveat is that the injuries have been incomprehensible.

 

 

As I've mentioned numerous times, Dorsey was fired on November 14th. Today is November 21st.

 

 

Poon Ford has had a career rebirth after his one forgettable season with the Bills.

 

 

The Bills have Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Cinci. The way they're playing I'd almost expect they'll lose one of those games.

 

 

I need you to share the stats on this D and SP teams units to explain your position. You saying it doesn’t make it accurate. 

[Niagara Dude]

On 11/20/2025 at 7:51 AM, BuffaloBill said:

Bills 19 Texans 23

 

Thread opened at the end of the game.

 

Go Bills!!!!!

I thought the biggest let down and turning point in the game was after the Davis TD kickoff return. I would have liked to see Babich being more aggressive with heavy blitzes to get a sack and maybe get the ball back to Allen for more points before the half.  They instead played prevent and Texans who are not a great offence go down the field and score a TD with 5 secs left

 

Credit to our defence because they played well enough to win in the second half,  but that TD hurt and we were chasing the rest of the game