machine gun kelly Posted November 17 Posted November 17 He’s benefiting of having Poyer in his ear after every play. 2 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 17 Posted November 17 Bishop’s ceiling is higher than Robert Downey Jr in the 90s. 1 1 Quote
Comebackkid Posted November 17 Posted November 17 probably higher than mine. theoretically, hypothetically and realistically based on past history and future speculation. 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted November 17 Posted November 17 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Better than poyer and Hyde when he reaches his peak That’s bold but I like it. His ceiling is probably higher because of his athleticism. Those guys both reach all-pro status. If Bishop does that, it’ll be a massive success. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted November 17 Posted November 17 I mean he looks awesome! So idk. I think it's safe to assume at minimum he'll be a solid player. But he's playing at an extremely high level right now 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 17 Posted November 17 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s bold but I like it. His ceiling is probably higher because of his athleticism. Those guys both reach all-pro status. If Bishop does that, it’ll be a massive success. McDermott really is a whisper with defensive backs who buy in to him His mixture of football talent football IQ and athleticism I think is going to actually propel him past those two guys who were studs But we always said the sum of those two parts with poyer and hyde and how they grew with McDermott was a massive part for their success.. individually maybe not all pro caliber, playing besides each other they were a All-Pro Duo Cole is going to hit like poyer, runs faster than Micah, has hands , can jump... Individually he screams future high-end safety Sky is the limit with his age and athleticism and football IQ Edited November 17 by Buffalo716 5 2 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted November 18 Posted November 18 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Hasn't helped the Bills D so much... Poyer is not the problem Quote
Lafromboise Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Just instincts. He has a great feel and intuition. It's the most important trait to be a great defensive back. Either you got it or you don't and it's looking like he's got it. Proud of him. 1 Quote
Brandon Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Athletically, he can be as good as anyone. It's just a matter of his instincts and his understanding of his role in the system. Quote
dcinmuncie Posted November 18 Posted November 18 It’s funny how just two months ago the secondary was a major issue now I’m seeing a bright future with him, Hancock, benford and mad max for the next 3-4 years 1 Quote
DaggersEOD Posted November 18 Posted November 18 9 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I heard McD and Beane were close to actually cutting Bishop, after a really harsh post here on TBD. Good thing they held the course. “My god man do you see the number of likes this post has?! He has to go!” 2 Quote
NewEra Posted November 18 Posted November 18 8 hours ago, dcinmuncie said: It’s funny how just two months ago the secondary was a major issue now I’m seeing a bright future with him, Hancock, benford and mad max for the next 3-4 years And this is why judging the teams chances to win it all in sept and October is comical. Injuries and player/coaching progressions and how they adapt is more important than anything happening in those months imo. Lots changes throughout the season 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 18 Posted November 18 I think it is pretty high. The issue was a pretty low floor and until JoPo got in alongide him that is what we got. But no question - Bish has been great the last 4 or 5 games. Very optimistic now for his future. Bishop, Benford and Hairston is three nice young building blocks in that secondary. 1 Quote
Puckman5 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 To determine the height of an NFL players ceiling, we must first calculate his median floor height and add some yet to be determined number of feet / (his propensity for injury variable x his average number of missed meetings) squared . It's that simple! 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 On 11/17/2025 at 3:49 PM, machine gun kelly said: He’s benefiting of having Poyer in his ear after every play. This really seems to be the key. For me at least. It lines up well for sure. Even better than Poyer raising the guys back there with Him ? he is playing pretty solid football himself This is fun. Hairston and White swapping reps was cool too. McD might be owed a thank you. Imagine if the team were anywhere near fully healthy Bishop FTW 22 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said: Poyer is not the problem Might have been dry sarcasm from our Weo 🙄 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 19 Posted November 19 11 hours ago, Puckman5 said: To determine the height of an NFL players ceiling, we must first calculate his median floor height and add some yet to be determined number of feet / (his propensity for injury variable x his average number of missed meetings) squared . It's that simple! Quote
HardyBoy Posted November 19 Posted November 19 13 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think it is pretty high. The issue was a pretty low floor and until JoPo got in alongide him that is what we got. But no question - Bish has been great the last 4 or 5 games. Very optimistic now for his future. Bishop, Benford and Hairston is three nice young building blocks in that secondary. He's playing well when Lewis subs in for Poyer too though... I'm not saying Poyer definitely isn't the reason, but shouldn't his play drop significantly on passing downs when Lewis comes in then? Could it be just that something clicked for him and coincided when Poyer started playing, or maybe more that Rapp was the issue and brining in any replacement level player would have facilitated Bishop's ability to only have to think about his role and not covering for Rapp? Quote
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