Lose on purpose?

[Comebackkid]

just to be safe we should prob through an interception or two as well...  might as well get them out of the way before the hard part of the schedule.  

 

[The Red King]

Actual math statistics, from a college course...

 

...what are the odds of getting a 'heads' on a coin?  50%.  Now, lets say you flip a coin three times and manage to get 'heads' three times.  What are the odds you get 'heads' again?  50%.  Because the prior flips that already occured have no bearing at all on the next flip.

 

So no, we do not need to lose the turnover battle on purpose to raise the odds against doing so later.

[Italian Bills]

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

This might be the dumbest post I've ever read on here and that says a lot.

Agree 100%

[Devilmann]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I think this is just a masterful troll job.  However, if you flip a coin 50 times in a row and it's heads each time......the next flip will still give you a 50% chance of being heads or tails.  Past results don't matter.

Quickly we need you to go back to the future to see if this conundrum gets resolved. 

[CoudyBills]

5 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Do you eat crayons?

Probably just the yellow ones...

[ClosetFan]

I think a famous man once said - There are lies, damn lies, and statistics . . .

[Sojourner]

6 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Do you eat crayons?

What ever happened to that poster?

[cwater10]

Having a three game lead in division is bad luck.  Miami has proven this just a few years ago. Trap!

 

[SoMAn]

7 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

Convoluted logic. 
If you flip a coin and it comes up ‘tails’ 10 consecutive times, are the odds better that it will come up ‘heads’ with the 11th flip of the coin? 
No. It’s still 50-50 every time. 
Deliberately losing a turnover battle to improve the chances of it not happening again in the future is nonsensical.

Maybe the only thing stupider would be purposely losing a game. 🙄

Edited September 28 by SoMAn

[SoMAn]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I think this is just a masterful troll job.  However, if you flip a coin 50 times in a row and it's heads each time......the next flip will still give you a 50% chance of being heads or tails.  Past results don't matter.

Oops. Just replied with the same. I had trouble bringing myself to read the entire thread until now.

Edited September 28 by SoMAn

[machine gun kelly]

When I think of the genesis thread, it reminds me of this…..

 

Normally, 4merper has decent takes, but luck has no bearing on turnover battles, but coaching does have something to do with it.  McD sweats the small stuff and it’s the reason we keep wining game after game, because it’s coached into them.  4merper, maybe some of the guys are being hard on you, which is why I tried to lighten things up with a joke.

 

The answer to your real question is we should want to win the turnover battle as long as possible as it shortens the field which is why we won 13 games last year, and sat the starters in a meaningless finale with the patriots.  I’m confident we can make 7-0 with the Saints, Cheats, Falcons, and the Panthers.  The bye is coming at a good time to maybe get Hairston by the Chiefs, as well as Oliver, Milano, and these games will give Strong a little more playing time, as we can load managers Tre.

[Augie]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

Forget the fumble, I think we should remove the pressure of an undefeated season RIGHT NOW! Think of how liberating that would feel!!! 

[Kwai San]

8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

This is like putting the condom on after sex.

THIS post absolutely WINS the internet award of the day!!!  Well Done @Royale with Cheese, Well Done Sir!

[sirebors]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

 

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The dumbest post I've ever read. 

 

Maybe we should purposely and intentionally have Josh Allen get hurt, so we can prove that we can win without him. And if he gets hurt now it'll lesson the chance that he'll get hurt later. 

[Captain Hindsight]

[Puckman5]

8 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Shakespeare couldn't write a response more appropriate.  Well done sir.   

[Mr. WEO]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Exactly.  It’s cool we have this long streak but it leaves it unclear if we NEED to win the turnover battle,.  Also, each week the odds increase that we lose it.  If we are way ahead, we might as well get those odds back in our favor.

 

so by pretending to "lose the TO battle", the Bills prove they can win without winning the TO battle?

 

why didn't you have someone read this before you clicked "submit"?

[oldmanfan]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

I am just going to assume alcohol was involved with this post.

[Big Turk]

6 hours ago, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said:

 

That's still kind of obvious.  We need a more mooanced approach.  It's like when the punter wants to back up five yards so he stands there waiting for the snap for a full 10 seconds before getting flagged for delay of game.  It's so obvious that he wants to back up 5 yards that the opposing coach always declines the penalty.  What they should do is have one of the OL guys false start just ahead of an actual snap - - less obvious, more suttle.

 

How about this?  Which offensive skill position guy got the lowest Wonderlik score?  Have him spike the ball on the 1 yard line before going in for a TD.  Too bad we don't have McKelvin anymore.  After that kick-off return fumble late against NE, he'd have been perfect.

 

Wait - - SMH, did we have a no-turnover streak going before that NE game?

 

I've got it...how about the Bills simple refuse to snap the ball on offense and see if they can set an NFL record for the longest game ever today? We can see what the ref does when he has to keep marking the ball half the distance to the goal when it gets inside their own 1 yard line. Will he break out the magic index card to measure?

 

Why?  I don't know, and I don't give a darn!

 

Trying to logic with OP leaves you like this apparently...

 

 

Edited September 28 by Big Turk

[CSBill]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I’m not talking about losing the game and no opponent should be taken for granted but….

 

If the game is in hand and there haven’t been any turnovers, should the Bills lose a fumble on purpose to end their streak of games not losing the turnover battle?  To me, yes.  Why:

 

1 reason against is it would be nice to keep the streak.

 

2 reasons for include both proving we can win games even when we have more turnovers and also every week we don’t lose the turnover battle increases the odds that the following week we will.  It would be far better to have that happen now than against a team like KC.

 

Okay, last time: This is drugs, this is your brain on drugs . . .

 

 

 

 

Edited September 28 by CSBill