Allen2Moulds Posted July 24 Posted July 24 6 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Yes. 😁 The reason this doesn't concern me, is because he is very accurate in the playoffs. 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted July 25 Posted July 25 4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: The issue I have with this sentiment and these numbers is that in this day and age I don't think when people talk "deep ball" they are discussing 20 yard pass plays. You can quantify it any way that it needs to be sugar coated to save face for Josh, but he is not accurate on passes that are truly deep down field. I'm talking 40-50 yards. Moon balls as it were. Now granted the further the target the slimmer the window to hit it. And passes that deep require the ability of the WR to track it. But more often than not it seems like Josh is so scared to under throw and get picked off (arm punt) that he overthrows the target range by a fair amount. I feel like Josh throws a deep over the shoulder the ball the same he throws short curl in coverage Hard and flat He could work on his arc lol if he has a WR he could trust to get over 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted July 25 Posted July 25 55 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: With the versatility of their OL I could see them trying to get away with carrying one less. I can't see less than 3 TEs. Honestly I'd carry one less LB. They so rarely play more than 2. My crusade to not have a FB on the team looks like it will never come to fruition. Gilliam says hello. Again , this year I wish they would line him up more often and send him on a screen for seven yards to destroy a corner 1 1 2 Quote
sunshynman Posted July 25 Posted July 25 6 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Would you say the WR room silently got better? Hope they didn’t get Kincaid skinny! Quote
Rubes Posted July 25 Posted July 25 35 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Gilliam says hello. Again , this year I wish they would line him up more often and send him on a screen for seven yards to destroy a corner Love me some more Gilliam. Dude is a baller. 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted July 25 Posted July 25 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: The issue I have with this sentiment and these numbers is that in this day and You can quantify it any way that it needs to be sugar coated to save face for Josh, but he is not accurate on passes that are truly deep down field. I'm talking 40-50 yards. Moon balls as it were. Now granted the further the target the slimmer the window to hit it. And passes that deep require the ability of the WR to track it. But more often than not it seems like Josh is so scared to under throw and get picked off (arm punt) that he overthrows the target range by a fair amount. I have no stats whatsoever, but I think that there are a few guys who are accurate on the deep ball - no more than a half dozen - and Josh isn't in that group, but he's in whatever the next group is. Ten or 12 starting quarterbacks don't have the arm strength to get the ball deep with any accuracy at all. Josh's arm strength alone puts him above all of those, and his accuracy is in fact decent, as we've seen often enough. Most QBs, including Josh, are going deep only once or twice a game, if that. It simply isn't a big part of the game. So, I don't get worrying about him being mediocre on a play that most QBs are mediocre or worse and that only happens once or twice a game. If I could be a fly on the wall when Brady and McDermott are discussing the passing game, I seriously doubt that discussions about Josh's deep-ball accuracy would come up very often, if at all. 1 2 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted July 25 Posted July 25 9 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: If we learned anything from the Miller situation, i truly hope its, prepare for the worst/hope for the best, and LOAD MANAGEMENT! Dude should absolutely not see the field in regular seasons unless its 3rd down..... and Im not kidding, its not until 4th quarter. Let the young guys get the development reps and keep JB safe. Win/Win So you're saying he should only play 3rd Downs and only in the 4th Quarter? I understand being nervous about him being injured as a fan. But if that's all he's being used for, he should have never been signed. I agree with you on load management and not asking him to do too much. But that's too far. Quote
Rocky Landing Posted July 25 Posted July 25 11 minutes ago, balln said: Literally no Kincaid mention in 2 days 1 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted July 25 Posted July 25 20 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Literally only one Kincaid mention in 2 days 7 Quote
balln Posted July 25 Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Literally only one Kincaid mention in 2 days Yea not good enough. First rounder at non premium position we traded up for 1 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted July 25 Posted July 25 26 minutes ago, balln said: Yea not good enough. First rounder at non premium position we traded up for Yes! This! What I have always found is that football games and championships are won with players who get the most mentions during training camp! It is impossible for any team to win a championship without mentions! 1 1 Quote
NewEra Posted July 25 Posted July 25 It looks like James Cook has added some good weight. He keeps getting stronger. I expect a monster season from this kid if our OL play continues its play. 3 Quote
Rocky Landing Posted July 25 Posted July 25 46 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Yes! This! What I have always found is that football games and championships are won with players who get the most mentions during training camp! It is impossible for any team to win a championship without mentions! Not just the number, mind you. They have to occur within 48 hours of the start of camp. 2 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted July 25 Posted July 25 5 hours ago, Lafromboise said: Yup. I was just thinking in my head how lethal jp to lee was on go routes. Check out the Houston game in 06. Absolutely beautiful perfect in stride. Makes sense. (Loved that 1st quarter especially. Fun one. Did Losman win that at the end with an in-breaking TD along the back of the endzone?) Quote
BigAl2526 Posted July 25 Posted July 25 29 minutes ago, NewEra said: It looks like James Cook has added some good weight. He keeps getting stronger. I expect a monster season from this kid if our OL play continues its play. That's good news. I think one of the concerns Beane has with meeting Cook's asking price might be that Cook is on the light side to carry the kind of work load that the higher paid backs (King Henry and Saquon Barkley) are expected to carry for their teams. Cook got quite a few carries last season, but not in the same ballpark as Barkley and Henry. I don't know if that is going to change as Buffalo likes Ty Johnson and Ray Davis in the roles they had last season and I think they are still going to get their reps. The Bills may still be reluctant to pay Cook the 15 million a year he's asking for, but bigger and stronger is still a good thing. 1 1 Quote
Johnny Bravo Posted July 25 Posted July 25 14 hours ago, Dan said: So in other words, those facts don’t fit your preconceived opinion… therefore we must move the goal posts and discount them and rely on your eye test. No, he is saying the categories in your facts don’t fit the 50 yards bombs he was talking about. The category of 20 yards passes in the fact you shared include deep outs and crosses as well as 50 yard bombs. Josh is great at the 20 yarders and bad at the 50 yarders. 1 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted July 25 Posted July 25 15 hours ago, Pete said: Virgil is the 6th WR. I’m a big Shavers fan, but Virgil offers more at ST and has more speed. Virgil has been starting Gunner, and that’s fast way to roster spot. Tasker became a Bills legend as the gunner and developed into a useful WR. 2 1 Quote
sunshynman Posted July 25 Posted July 25 12 hours ago, balln said: Literally no Kincaid mention in 2 days He's too skinny that can't see him. Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 25 Posted July 25 13 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: With the versatility of their OL I could see them trying to get away with carrying one less. I can't see less than 3 TEs. Honestly I'd carry one less LB. They so rarely play more than 2. My crusade to not have a FB on the team looks like it will never come to fruition. They kept 9 OL last year. I can't see them wanting to let any of those 9 go, especially when the rules require you have to have 8 up on gameday. They kept 5 linebackers (some years have kept 6) and again because of what you need for special teams I don't see a world where keeping only 4 makes sense. They will keep: 2 QBs, 1 FB, 3 RBs, 5 WRs, 3 TEs, 9 OL, 8 DL, 5 LBs, 9 DBs, 3 STs - as a minimum. That gets you to 48. I think it leaves you 5 spots to allocate between WR, DL, DB and any wildcard you don't want to lose at another spot. 2 2 Quote
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