Johnny Bravo

I'm not a fan of pitbulls and I've never owned one, but I did a lot of research on dogs before buying my GSD and my Rottweiler. Even if the stats he presented are accurate, they can still be misleading. Very few of reported pitbull attacks are from pitbulls and even fewer are from family pets. People often report dog attacks by any scary looking breed as having been pitbull attacks when very few are. Furthermore, virtually zero fatal dog attacks are from family pets who are socialized to be around people. Almost without exception, fatal dog attacks are by dogs who live on a property but who do not regularly interact with the people who own him.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epdf/10.1177/00031224231221741?utm_source=copilot.com does this count? that said, you raised an interesting point when you compared the percentage of GDP from prisoners to other professions. I’ll have to think about that some. Thanks. Go Bills!

I’m not a no-nothing (sic). I have studied economics my entire adult life both professionally and as a hobby. But I don’t need to know anything about economics to refute your conclusion from the articles you posted. I just need to know basic math with an 8th grade understanding of percentages. I did produce something. Using your numbers I showed $11b, which you called a significant part of the US economy, is a small fraction of a percent of our overall GDP. Is $11b a lot of money to me? Yes. So is $100,000-but it isn’t a significant part of the US economy. As far as my feelings on the matter go, I don’t have any. Whether or not prisoners should be paid more, or offered employment at all isn’t something I’ve thought about at all, really. I might even agree with you in terms of what our policies should be, but it seems pretty apparent that I would arrive at that conclusion via a very different path than you would. My only issue was with your claim that $11b is significant-because it isn’t.

$11B is 0.035% of the US GDP. It took me about 30 seconds to look up the GDP and divide that into the $11b figure you cited. Do you believe that 0.035% is a significant part of the US economy? If so, what would you believe is an insignificant figure?

Which are these developed countries with zero laws, inept policing, bribery, poor tracking, etc? Please be specific I love America and I love Americans. I think the United States is the greatest country that has ever existed. But, my love for America doesn’t mean pretending that things that are true aren’t. I don’t know why Americans commit more violent than Germans, Swedes, the French, etc. but it’s true.

Not inherently worse, but it is just a fact that Americans commit more crimes than other developed countries-and it’s not particularly close. And this isn’t a new thing…this phenomenon goes back to the 1800s. I don’t know why it’s true. It just is.

Our prisons are full because Americans commit so many crimes. Also, I don’t think it’s a given that prisons are supposed to deter. That may be a nice side benefit but I believe their primary purpose is the punish the offender for their specific crimes.

So is your argument that the Bills need fewer guys like Josh? And what should the new draftees be focusing on? are they allowed to feel emotion only after a Super Bowl win?

Focused on what? Making sure they feel the right emotions and reacting the way folks on a message board think they should? Josh was almost inconsolable after the Denver game. Should he have been more focused on being stoic so the team can rally behind him next year?

I wouldn’t want Josh cut, but it would change my opinion of him.

I think this is a fair point. We should judge different people by different standards. Mick Jagger's behavior should get a different response from than my kid's teacher's behavior. You are right. I think cheating is fundamental and destructive to families-which are the cornerstones of a healthy society-and therefore should be universally condemned. Do I think Vrabel's cheating is irredeemable? No. Is it huge and should he conduct be condemned? Yes.

@Jauronimo seems to be one of those people to who an eye roll constitutes a point.

Who cares if we knew they were married before? We know they are married now and in a healthy society we should have opinions about people who don't honor the vows they made on their wedding days. To your question "what business of yours is Mike Vrabel's marriage?". Vrabel is a public figure and that comes with extra responsibility to conduct himself in a certain way. When public figures fall short of a standard the public has every right, and I would even say an obligation to talk about and even judge their behavior. @Jauronimo, I don't know you, but you just seem to be against the idea of judgement. The irony is that your judgement of people who have opinions about Vrabel's character is quite clear.

My question was posed to someone who “knew” that Vrabel had cheated, so the question as to what we know or don’t know is moot. Vrabel made vows to his wife which, if they were like the vows I’ve heard at every wedding I’ve ever been to were one way-I will honor you, be faithful to you, etc. They weren’t promises made only as long as he was happy or his wife treated him a certain way. He broke those vows and I think that makes him a weak, fraction of a man I don’t think it’s open-minded or gracious to act like this isn’t a big deal which defines him as a person for now.

Why wouldn't you judge him? If he cheated on the woman he made vows to be faithful, why shouldn't you assess that behavior and find the man who did it lacking?