SoonerBillsFan Posted July 16 Posted July 16 I wonder if at some point the NFL will move to remove owners like Brown, Haslam and Johnson. there are other Billionares that would invest in the team to make them more competitive. Quote
Sojourner Posted July 16 Posted July 16 14 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I wonder if at some point the NFL will move to remove owners like Brown, Haslam and Johnson. there are other Billionares that would invest in the team to make them more competitive. Probably get truck stop perks from Haslam, lot lizards included. On a serious note, look at the Commanders. Ownership change and the franchise did a complete 180° in its first year… 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted July 16 Posted July 16 This would be hilarious. And demonstrate just how dysfunctional the Bungles are. Love how they undermine the only quarterback in the league who, when I watch play, sometimes looks better than ours. And they trade their best defensive player soon too? Quote
stlbills13 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 He can make millions in college these days too. But it would still be a bad decision. 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 Dear Mr. Stewart, Please return the #1 jersey you posed with at the draft. You will immediately incur a $5 per day late fee for each day it is not returned. Cincinnati Bengals Accounting Department 5 Quote
DrBob806 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 46 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I wonder if at some point the NFL will move to remove owners like Brown, Haslam and Johnson. there are other Billionares that would invest in the team to make them more competitive. Sometimes, all it takes is a draft pick or two. Are we forgetting how inept the Bills were before JA? 1 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 16 Posted July 16 10 hours ago, Watkins90 said: No because then you ***** other players. Other teams will just stick the same contract language into other deals. You don't want to set the precedent. It's about language that the Bengals are trying to put in that would void guaranteed money in certain situations. This is language that isn't traditionally in contracts. So, he should stand his crown. ***** the owners, they always looking to screw the players out of money at any turn. I didn't know this. I agree with you, and him. Thanks Watty. 1 Quote
Augie Posted July 16 Posted July 16 4 minutes ago, DrBob806 said: Sometimes, all it takes is a draft pick or two. Are we forgetting how inept the Bills were before JA? One player alone, even Josh Allen, cannot overcome dysfunction that starts at the top with the owner, IMO. That’s why Joe Burrow has only been to the playoffs twice in the last five years, and he has 2 top WR’s. Quote
Charles Romes Posted July 16 Posted July 16 Kerwin and Miller - who are great btw - were talking about this and suggested the teams may collude and black ball him out of the top of the ‘26 draft if this were to occur. Otherwise there would be a wave of this activity going forward. At any rate, love watching the Bengals unravel due to FO failure. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted July 16 Posted July 16 1 hour ago, JP51 said: Methinks Stewart is posturing here... something tells me he will show up in Cinci at somepoint... but interesting play by him... I am just not convince he is gonna leave Millions on the table and risk going back getting injured etc... but geez I wonder what he is all out of joint about. If you live long enough you see this in different flavors over and over again. The guy always, always, goes back to the team or is traded. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Gregg said: This is why he will stay with the Bengals. You don't leave millions on the table especially playing a sport where your career could end on any play. No doubt. Hes not dropping to the 7th IF this happens but is definitely dropping atleast to like the 3rd or later. On top of that, if his career plays out the way he imagines, hes also not getting a 2nd contract (the big $$ one) until a year later. The ripple effect of doing this is just so huge. I think hes 100% in the right here, but pushing forward would be an awful decision by him. Just likw the awful situation Cinci has put themselves in. Imagine pissing off your top 15, future of the franchise... while also having s*** all over Hendrickson lol all while doing all this in plain sight, knowing you need FA's for, well, forever 🤣🤣. Absolutely ridiculous thing to do to your franchise over a theoretical, with a guy who's never had off field issues too. Unfathomable stupidity Too close to college season to try and lawyer his way back to A&M too 1 hour ago, stlbills13 said: He can make millions in college these days too. But it would still be a bad decision. He'd have to fight in court to get that right... and college ain't gunna roll over and accept that easily as it would be a precedent setter... unless for some reason it's beneficial for them to do so, and it could be?? But if it was, id imagine itd already be in place soooo 🤷 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: If you live long enough you see this in different flavors over and over again. The guy always, always, goes back to the team or is traded. The most likely scenario aside from them resolving this, IMO is a trade (hilarious for a disagreement on a theoretical scenario)... What do we think a trade compensation would look like? Would be limited to a DE needy team, outside of division, and out of conference if trading team is a serious contender. Acknowledging the above probably puts us off limits, id give them Epenesa + 4th (maybe 3rd) Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted July 16 Posted July 16 3 hours ago, T master said: Did this guy mean opt out of his agreement to be a Bengal by being drafted by them or his UNSIGNED contract that the Bengals refuse to work on with him ? Or did I miss something and Stewart has signed but has just decided to be difficult with the team ? Isn't this in some ways similar to the Eli Manning thing refusing to play for the Chargers or Jim Kelly refusing to go to the Bills and playing for the team he went to after being drafted ?? The tweet was incorrect when it said 'opt out'. Stewart hasn't signed a contract with the Bengals yet so there's nothing to opt out of. Eli Manning threatened something similar, but the Chargers traded him within minutes of drafting him. I don't think anyone has actually sat out a season to get re-drafted since the 80's. It's too much of a financial sacrifice to refuse to sign the contract, sit out an entire year, and hope to get re-drafted next year. 1) He would fall significantly in the draft. Rather than a 1st round pick rookie contract (~19 mil over 4 years) he's probably looking at more like a 4th round rookie contract (~5 mil over 4 years). 2) He wouldn't be able to sign a 2nd contract until 2030 instead of 2029 - missing a year of prime earnings. It's hard to imagine a player giving that up over language in a contract. He would have to really, really, really hate the Bengals. 1 Quote
Paup 1995MVP Posted July 16 Posted July 16 12 hours ago, Watkins90 said: No because then you ***** other players. Other teams will just stick the same contract language into other deals. You don't want to set the precedent. It's about language that the Bengals are trying to put in that would void guaranteed money in certain situations. This is language that isn't traditionally in contracts. So, he should stand his crown. ***** the owners, they always looking to screw the players out of money at any turn. Screw the players? Have you seen some of the contracts the owners are handing out to guys who are big time? And some not so much big time? Football is a team game. It is not so much about individual players except a select few QB's, a few star WR's and a few special talents on Defense. The rest of the players are pretty much interchangeable. There is a salary cap which levels the playing field, and makes you fit the best 53 players you can find in a finite pool of money. How is that screwing the players? Shemar Stewart had 1 1/2 sacks last year at Texas A & M. That is laughable. He should feel blessed that the Bengals even drafted him in the 1st round. Sign your contract, and prove to them that you are a bad ass that belongs on an NFL field. In the meantime he still may need to prove that he belongs on an SEC field with the ***** numbers he put up last year. 1 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted July 16 Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Kerwin and Miller - who are great btw - were talking about this and suggested the teams may collude and black ball him out of the top of the ‘26 draft if this were to occur. Otherwise there would be a wave of this activity going forward. At any rate, love watching the Bengals unravel due to FO failure. The other owners don't like Brown of the bengals that much Quote
Ya Digg? Posted July 16 Posted July 16 37 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Screw the players? Have you seen some of the contracts the owners are handing out to guys who are big time? And some not so much big time? Football is a team game. It is not so much about individual players except a select few QB's, a few star WR's and a few special talents on Defense. The rest of the players are pretty much interchangeable. There is a salary cap which levels the playing field, and makes you fit the best 53 players you can find in a finite pool of money. How is that screwing the players? Shemar Stewart had 1 1/2 sacks last year at Texas A & M. That is laughable. He should feel blessed that the Bengals even drafted him in the 1st round. Sign your contract, and prove to them that you are a bad ass that belongs on an NFL field. In the meantime he still may need to prove that he belongs on an SEC field with the ***** numbers he put up last year. Football is such a weird sport/business because it seems to be the only sport where fans OVERWHELMINGLY side with the billionaire owners. If he signs the current contract it does in fact potentially screw over future players. From what I understand the Bengals have made the wording intentionally vague. It does not say legal trouble makes it so they can void the entirety of the remaining contract, it just says trouble. So they could conceivably look at “trouble” as he showed up late to a couple of meetings, got fined, and now they can use that against him. its an unnecessary thing they are trying to put into the contract. If no other player has ever had this in their contract, why should Stewart accept it in his? 1 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted July 16 Posted July 16 Texas A&M probably paid him more then the Bengals offered him. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted July 16 Posted July 16 Bengals are so stubborn they'd pry draft him again out of spite. 2 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted July 16 Posted July 16 4 hours ago, boater said: His salary is fixed by the rookie pay scale in the collective bargaining agreement, so it's not that. My understanding though, how much of that money is guaranteed money is negotiable. Maybe that is the sticking point. Or maybe he objects to some clause in the minutiae. My bet is on the guaranteed money. That's not it. It has NOTHING to do with him and everything to do with the Bengals. The Bengals are forcing him to sign a pre-nup that stipulates they can void his contract for a myriad of reasons, and non specific reasons deemed as being "in default" of his contract that no other rookie is subject to. The Bengals are 100% to blame here. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/bengals-shemar-stewart-contract-dispute-2025-draft 59 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Screw the players? Have you seen some of the contracts the owners are handing out to guys who are big time? And some not so much big time? You understand they're contractually obligated to do this via the CBA right? Players must earn 48% of the league revenue. And frankly I think that's too low. Quote
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