HappyDays Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: Seems a bit like a money grab, All civil lawsuits are by definition money grabs. She filed a police report back when the incident allegedly happened and has posted about it on social media over the years. She is now trying to pursue her final chance at some kind of recourse. My speculative take is that the girl genuinely feels like she was wronged, but that doesn't mean she actually was in a legal sense. There is in fact a middle ground on this issue between "Hairston is a rapist" and "the girl is a lying money grabber." But it's a very messy middle ground with no clear answers. 11 10 5 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: All civil lawsuits are by definition money grabs. She filed a police report back when the incident allegedly happened and has posted about it on social media over the years. She is now trying to pursue her final chance at some kind of recourse. My speculative take is that the girl genuinely feels like she was wronged, but that doesn't mean she actually was in a legal sense. There is in fact a middle ground on this issue between "Hairston is a rapist" and "the girl is a lying money grabber." But it's a very messy middle ground with no clear answers. Also you need to find a lawyer to take a case like this on contingency (I am assuming) and it won’t be worth it to the lawyer unless the defendant has assets. So the “timing” is likely that. Civil suits are not cheap, no one is going to pursue one against someone with no money, most of the time. 1 2 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted July 2 Posted July 2 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Araiza did, I agree, get a raw deal. Mainly because the league's rules don't really cater for a situation like his where a rookie who hasn't yet played in the league is subject to criminal investigation. But there are two important differences: 1. Araiza was facing a criminal investigation and possible charge. The criminal investigation has long since concluded in Hairston's case. No charges were brought. Is it impossible that new evidence comes to light and the investigation is re-opened? No. But until that happens his case is in a different category both legally and in terms of the NFL rules. 2. Araiza was not honest with the team. That was part of what led them to release him. They felt he's intentionally misled them in his original account of events. Hairston has to this point been up front about the accusations. If it turns out later he has lied to the team I think the Bills would take that very seriously. Also, the Bills were not going to let a possible SB team be asked weekly about the status of their rookie punter's sexual assault investigation. It was an unnecessary distraction and simply not worth keeping him 2 Quote
muppy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 BLECH This is Not the news I want to wake up to and for the record any one who thinks a woman asks for a sexual assault is a creep of the highest order what a disgusting comment with not a sniff of proof EITHER WAY it does shine a light on how some people think though Is this woman an opportunist? Maybe Maybe not I'll wait for more facts what a sick story we not need this MESSY DRAMA Boooooooooooooo 6 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 23 minutes ago, HappyDays said: All civil lawsuits are by definition money grabs. She filed a police report back when the incident allegedly happened and has posted about it on social media over the years. She is now trying to pursue her final chance at some kind of recourse. My speculative take is that the girl genuinely feels like she was wronged, but that doesn't mean she actually was in a legal sense. There is in fact a middle ground on this issue between "Hairston is a rapist" and "the girl is a lying money grabber." But it's a very messy middle ground with no clear answers. This is a very rational take. We need more of them on this board 2 4 2 Quote
shane nelson Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Lets wait until he gets a big contract and then sue. Amazing 1 1 Quote
muppy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: What is so compelling about these types of lawsuits is the timing. It speaks volumes. The timing is very suspicious. This case begs a trial of some sort. Noone can fully know what happened between them besides those 2 people it just stinks. Unneeded baloney. I hope it is settled quickly LHM Edited July 2 by muppy Quote
hondo in seattle Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Another woman looking for quick easy cash. Shocking 😲 If you were there and know what happened, please contact the police. 3 4 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted July 2 Posted July 2 5 minutes ago, shane nelson said: Lets wait until he gets a big contract and then sue. Amazing Again: how life works: no lawyer is taking the case against a college student with no assets. 3 Quote
mikemac2001 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 31 minutes ago, muppy said: BLECH This is Not the news I want to wake up to and for the record any one who thinks a woman asks for a sexual assault is a creep of the highest order what a disgusting comment with not a sniff of proof EITHER WAY it does shine a light on how some people think though Is this woman an opportunist? Maybe Maybe not I'll wait for more facts what a sick story we not need this MESSY DRAMA Boooooooooooooo This was known about during the draft and talked about by our GM he was not charged back in 2021 and they didn’t bring a criminal case against him. Now it’s back in the news once he got drafted because he is making millions. If he was working at McDonald’s I don’t see this being a civil case. Edited July 2 by mikemac2001 1 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Never NEVER Give-up said: So, 4 years ago something happened. He was neither arrested nor charged with anything. He becomes a 1st round pick in the NFL and is slated to be paid millions et voila a civil suit is filed. Money grab, All. Day. Long. I’m guessing that the civil suit had been planned for some time and the legal team were waiting until he signed his contract, rather than going over whatever NIL money he had previously been making. If that happened, Harrison could have been like Rocky Balboa in Rocky V and say “sue me for what?” Edited July 2 by JohnNord Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: So if I’m reading this correctly, it was fully investigated and he was not criminally charged. Could he still be suspended or placed on the dreaded list of Roger? Yes, she reported it in 2021, it was investigated by police, and no charges were brought. The precedence that Roger Goodell has set is that since this happened prior to the player being in the NFL then the NFL will not suspend the player for it. Doesn't mean that Roger can't change his mind, but I'd say it's highly unlikely the league would suspend him. 1 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted July 2 Posted July 2 12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Again: how life works: no lawyer is taking the case against a college student with no assets. Especially when that college player is a top draft prospect and is set to sign for millions. The timing here is no coincidence. I’m sure they waited to file until he signed his rookie contract 1 Quote
nuklz2594 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 whenever this situation pops up years after the fact, have the victim take a lie detector test. may not be admissible in court, but could prevent lawsuits Quote
boater Posted July 2 Posted July 2 "He's an impeccable kid," Beane said. "We did a lot of research. I think all teams were aware of the Title IX thing. That was fully investigated by the school...It was one of those where there was zero information saying that this actually happened." I will trust Beane's research over the word of someone out to make money. 3 2 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted July 2 Posted July 2 23 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: If you were there and know what happened, please contact the police. The line is busy Quote
MJS Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Just have to wait and see how it turns out. I never jump to conclusions on these things. This was a known issue, though, and it sounds like the school couldn't find anything and the Bills did their research. We'll see how it turns out, but I highly doubt discipline will come from the NFL on this. Quote
Gugny Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, thronethinker said: This is civil and not criminal and therefore is the business of the two parties only. League and team should have no involvement. So if OJ was still an active player when he was found guilty in the civil suit for brutally murdering the mother of his children and her friend, you’d have been okay with him staying in the NFL? 2 Quote
muppy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Just have to wait and see how it turns out. I never jump to conclusions on these things. This was a known issue, though, and it sounds like the school couldn't find anything and the Bills did their research. We'll see how it turns out, but I highly doubt discipline will come from the NFL on this. the fact he was investigated with no charges has made my blood pressure go down. That and Beane saying this was investigated pre draft and found still 1st round draft pick worthy is notable This drama was not known to me even post draft though just saying. Edited July 2 by muppy Quote
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