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1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

Seems a bit like a money grab,

 

All civil lawsuits are by definition money grabs. She filed a police report back when the incident allegedly happened and has posted about it on social media over the years. She is now trying to pursue her final chance at some kind of recourse.

 

My speculative take is that the girl genuinely feels like she was wronged, but that doesn't mean she actually was in a legal sense. There is in fact a middle ground on this issue between "Hairston is a rapist" and "the girl is a lying money grabber." But it's a very messy middle ground with no clear answers.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

All civil lawsuits are by definition money grabs. She filed a police report back when the incident allegedly happened and has posted about it on social media over the years. She is now trying to pursue her final chance at some kind of recourse.

 

My speculative take is that the girl genuinely feels like she was wronged, but that doesn't mean she actually was in a legal sense. There is in fact a middle ground on this issue between "Hairston is a rapist" and "the girl is a lying money grabber." But it's a very messy middle ground with no clear answers.


Also you need to find a lawyer to take a case like this on contingency (I am assuming) and it won’t be worth it to the lawyer unless the defendant has assets.  So the “timing” is likely that.  Civil suits are not cheap, no one is going to pursue one against someone with no money, most of the time.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Araiza did, I agree, get a raw deal. Mainly because the league's rules don't really cater for a situation like his where a rookie who hasn't yet played in the league is subject to criminal investigation. 

 

But there are two important differences:

1. Araiza was facing a criminal investigation and possible charge. The criminal investigation has long since concluded in Hairston's case. No charges were brought. Is it impossible that new evidence comes to light and the investigation is re-opened? No. But until that happens his case is in a different category both legally and in terms of the NFL rules. 

 

2. Araiza was not honest with the team. That was part of what led them to release him. They felt he's intentionally misled them in his original account of events. Hairston has to this point been up front about the accusations. If it turns out later he has lied to the team I think the Bills would take that very seriously. 

Also, the Bills were not going to let a possible SB team be asked weekly about the status of their rookie punter's sexual assault investigation. It was an unnecessary distraction and simply not worth keeping him

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BLECH

 

This is Not the news I want to wake up to

 

and for the record any one who thinks a woman asks for a sexual assault is a creep of the highest order

 

what a disgusting comment with not a sniff of proof EITHER WAY

 

it does shine a light on how some people think though

 

Is this woman an opportunist? Maybe

 

Maybe not

 

I'll wait for more facts

 

what a sick story we not need this MESSY DRAMA

 

Boooooooooooooo

 

 

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23 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

All civil lawsuits are by definition money grabs. She filed a police report back when the incident allegedly happened and has posted about it on social media over the years. She is now trying to pursue her final chance at some kind of recourse.

 

My speculative take is that the girl genuinely feels like she was wronged, but that doesn't mean she actually was in a legal sense. There is in fact a middle ground on this issue between "Hairston is a rapist" and "the girl is a lying money grabber." But it's a very messy middle ground with no clear answers.

This is a very rational take.  We need more of them on this board 

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Posted (edited)
54 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

What is so compelling about these types of lawsuits is the timing. It speaks volumes. 

The timing is very suspicious. This case begs a trial of some sort. Noone can fully know what happened between them besides  those 2 people

 

it just stinks. Unneeded baloney. I hope it is settled quickly

 

LHM

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Posted
5 minutes ago, shane nelson said:

Lets wait until he gets a big contract and then sue.  Amazing 


Again: how life works: no lawyer is taking the case against a college student with no assets.

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Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, muppy said:

BLECH

 

This is Not the news I want to wake up to

 

and for the record any one who thinks a woman asks for a sexual assault is a creep of the highest order

 

what a disgusting comment with not a sniff of proof EITHER WAY

 

it does shine a light on how some people think though

 

Is this woman an opportunist? Maybe

 

Maybe not

 

I'll wait for more facts

 

what a sick story we not need this MESSY DRAMA

 

Boooooooooooooo

 

 

This was known about during the draft and talked about by our GM 

 

he was not charged back in 2021 and they didn’t bring a criminal case against him. 
 

Now it’s back in the news once he got drafted because he is making millions. If he was working at McDonald’s I don’t see this being a civil case. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Never NEVER Give-up said:

So, 4 years ago something happened.  He was neither arrested nor charged with anything.  He becomes a 1st round pick in the NFL and is slated to be paid millions et voila a civil suit is filed.  Money grab, All.  Day.  Long.


I’m guessing that the civil suit had been planned for some time and the legal team were waiting until he signed his contract, rather than going over whatever NIL money he had previously been making.  
 

If that happened, Harrison could have been like Rocky Balboa in Rocky V and say “sue me for what?”

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Posted
1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

So if I’m reading this correctly, it was fully investigated and he was not criminally charged. Could he still be suspended or placed on the dreaded list of Roger?

 

Yes, she reported it in 2021, it was investigated by police, and no charges were brought. 

 

The precedence that Roger Goodell has set is that since this happened prior to the player being in the NFL then the NFL will not suspend the player for it. Doesn't mean that Roger can't change his mind, but I'd say it's highly unlikely the league would suspend him. 

 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


Again: how life works: no lawyer is taking the case against a college student with no assets.


Especially when that college player is a top draft prospect and is set to sign for millions. 
 

The timing here is no coincidence.  I’m sure they waited to file until he signed his rookie contract 

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whenever this situation pops up years after the fact, have the victim take a lie detector test. may not be admissible in court, but could prevent lawsuits

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"He's an impeccable kid," Beane said. "We did a lot of research. I think all teams were aware of the Title IX thing. That was fully investigated by the school...It was one of those where there was zero information saying that this actually happened."

 

I will trust Beane's research over the word of someone out to make money.

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Posted
23 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

If you were there and know what happened, please contact the police.  

The line is busy

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Just have to wait and see how it turns out. I never jump to conclusions on these things. This was a known issue, though, and it sounds like the school couldn't find anything and the Bills did their research. We'll see how it turns out, but I highly doubt discipline will come from the NFL on this.

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1 hour ago, thronethinker said:

This is civil and not criminal and therefore is the business of the two parties only. League and team should have no involvement. 


So if OJ was still an active player when he was found guilty in the civil suit for brutally murdering the mother of his children and her friend, you’d have been okay with him staying in the NFL?

 

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, MJS said:

Just have to wait and see how it turns out. I never jump to conclusions on these things. This was a known issue, though, and it sounds like the school couldn't find anything and the Bills did their research. We'll see how it turns out, but I highly doubt discipline will come from the NFL on this.

the fact he was investigated with no charges has made my blood pressure go down. That and Beane saying this was investigated pre draft and found still 1st round draft pick worthy is notable

 

This drama was not known to me even post draft though just saying.

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