PFF top 32 WRs for 2025

[DJB]

7 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

There is an argument there, but then you realize that Chase has had the same quarterback throwing to him for a very long time. Both in his college and NFL career. That level of comfort and familiarity is unseen in the NFL in a very long time.Jefferson had… Kirk cousins and Sam Darnold. Not quite the same…

Agreed it’s close but Jefferson is slightly ahead for me

 

Give JJ Burrow his entire career and Chase Darnold and Kirk  etc  and I don’t think it would be even close 

[Kirby Jackson]

It says on the write up for number 32 that a bunch of guys were considered for that spot. Who do you think were “honorable mention?” I’d say it’s definitely Jeudy and Pickens. Shocked that Jeudy didn’t make it after last year. I’d bet Odunze was certainly one of them. Diggs has to be there. Maybe Shakir?maybe Jakobi Meyers? Maybe Ridley? Maybe Mooney? Jennings? Addison? Pittman? Bateman? Reed or a different Packers WR? I’m not factoring in rookies.

Edited 6 hours ago by Kirby Jackson

[Goin Breakdown]

I'm Brandan Beane and I say this list is "stupid" and yall are beotches. 

[RoscoeParrish]

 

8 hours ago, Mango said:

 

One thing to note is QB contracts.

 

Sure some guys got paid like Hurts, but they aren't in the meat of their deals yet so they can pay everybody. Then on the other end you have the Bengals who paid Burrow and paid their WR' and they're all messed up because of it.

 

Buffalo, KC,and Baltimore have a much greater balancing act.

 

Stafford and the Rams are a bit of an outlier.

 

All that said, McBeane have just missed too many times with pass catchers in the draft. And their insurance on devoting resources to pass catching backs that they don't throw the ball to is maddening. Honorable mention to TE's as well.

 

 

The list that Kirby posted:

 

Eagles (2)

Ravens (1)

Bills (0)

Chiefs (1)

Lions (2)

Rams (2)

Commanders (2)

Packers (0)

Bengals (2

 

Has exactly 1 QB on a rookie deal.

 

Josh Allen has a lower cap hit than Stafford, Burrow, Lamar, Tua in 2025. He has only $4M more than Goff and $7M more than Love.

 

It’s very helpful on the money side of things to not pay a QB. But we managed to pay Diggs and Josh big money, together, for a few seasons. You certainly can’t pay everyone, but you can pay great ones.

32 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It says on the write up for number 32 that a bunch of guys were considered for that spot. Who do you think were “honorable mention?” I’d say it’s definitely Jeudy and Pickens. Shocked that Jeudy didn’t make it after last year. I’d bet Odunze was certainly one of them. Diggs has to be there. Maybe Shakir?maybe Jakobi Meyers? Maybe Ridley? Maybe Mooney? Jennings? Addison? Pittman? Bateman? Reed or a different Packers WR? I’m not factoring in rookies.

I think Jeudy should have made it, but there’s probably some thinking that he was an empty calorie numbers guy.

 

I didn’t watch a lot of Browns games (who did) but it is funny that he exploded in year 5.

[Kirby Jackson]

9 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

 

I think Jeudy should have made it, but there’s probably some thinking that he was an empty calorie numbers guy.

 

I didn’t watch a lot of Browns games (who did) but it is funny that he exploded in year 5.

I didn’t see much of them either. He only flip side is that he did it with awful QBs too. The Jeudy 2024 season should be studied because it made no sense. 🤣🤣

[BillsVet]

1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said:

It’s very helpful on the money side of things to not pay a QB. But we managed to pay Diggs and Josh big money, together, for a few seasons. You certainly can’t pay everyone, but you can pay great ones.

 

Each team wants to be in a position to pay a top QB...and most do.  It's just that most teams don't devote as many UFA cap dollars and draft picks to keeping a defense intact or re-building it so often because they don't compromise on that.  Which makes the cost to invest in a WR1 on the market or taking one higher in the draft too high.   

 

Ever year since about 2021 they've justified their avoidance of WR with some weak excuse, but what it really shows is the defense is more important than the offense.  And the cost is they can't draft or acquire a WR who is a clear WR1.  As an example, I calculated that since 2021 they've invested about 63% of their draft capital on defense.  

 

That philosophy of defense over offense is squarely in focus even more this year than last.  Because if it doesn't work out, as in a really good defense combined with Josh's ensemble cast of WRs, then they have nowhere to run.      

Edited 4 hours ago by BillsVet

[somnus00]

16 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

Seeing Brian Thomas Jr. at 15 still kills me

I really thought he was ours once he got past Cincy and the Rams. Didn't think the Jags would pick WR.

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, DJB said:

Beane could have had Jefferson and Ladd. Essentially traded one away and passed on another 

 

Brutal 

 

 

Every subsequent failed attempt to get a WR1 in the draft are honest mistakes compared to passing on AJ Brown, DK Metcalf and Terry McCLaurin in the 2019 draft and choosing Cody Ford instead.    They've been chasing ever since.

 

Beane has struggled to find an elite pass rushing DE but at least in that instance he has the excuse of having to deal with the rigidity of McDermott's scheme.    The amount of DE's who check all of the boxes to satisfy the wants of the McDefense are limited.   If you insist on 6'6" 270 pound DE's with 34" arms you gotta' be willing to keep throwing numbers at it and take on day 3 risks like they did in Carolina with Greg Hardy.   And perhaps McDermott hasn't been willing to allow Beane to go that far.   But you aren't getting an Aidan Hutchinson with the 28th pick.  

 

Beane has no such excuse at WR.   Those are unmitigated whiffs.  

[PrimeTime101]

18 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

The shakir disrespect

Shakir is getting disrespected cause with his speed, he's not taking it to the house enough. only 4 TD's 

[Paup 1995MVP]

2 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:

 

The list that Kirby posted:

 

Eagles (2)

Ravens (1)

Bills (0)

Chiefs (1)

Lions (2)

Rams (2)

Commanders (2)

Packers (0)

Bengals (2

 

Has exactly 1 QB on a rookie deal.

 

Josh Allen has a lower cap hit than Stafford, Burrow, Lamar, Tua in 2025. He has only $4M more than Goff and $7M more than Love.

 

It’s very helpful on the money side of things to not pay a QB. But we managed to pay Diggs and Josh big money, together, for a few seasons. You certainly can’t pay everyone, but you can pay great ones.

I think Jeudy should have made it, but there’s probably some thinking that he was an empty calorie numbers guy.

 

I didn’t watch a lot of Browns games (who did) but it is funny that he exploded in year 5.

Jeudy had Jameis Winston throwing to him.  He will let it rip all day long.  Yes he will throw some picks, but he gets his receivers lots of yards.  Jeudy had a huge game against the Broncos last year on MNF w Jameis throwing him the ball.  
 

I for one have no idea why Jameis doesn’t get more love around the NFL. He signs w the Giants and then they sign Wilson and draft Dart.  And look at the crap the Saints are throwing out there this year at QB.  Winston is a leader and loves the game of football.  He is the black Fitzie and a poor man’s Favre.  I would love him to be our backup over Trubisky. 
 

The game is so controlled by coaches today.  A guy like Winston who just goes out and throws it all over the yard is not what most coaching staffs want.  (Including I would imagine the Bills) The guy is just a breath of fresh air.  

[Ethan in Cleveland]

18 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

Seeing Brian Thomas Jr. at 15 still kills me

Yes this hurts.  No idea how much it would have cost Bills to go up ang get him, but many on this board were advocating for it in real time during last year's draft.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

So, now we care about PFF'S ranking? When did I miss the memo?

[Einstein's Dog]

30 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Jeudy had Jameis Winston throwing to him.  He will let it rip all day long.  Yes he will throw some picks, but he gets his receivers lots of yards.  Jeudy had a huge game against the Broncos last year on MNF w Jameis throwing him the ball.  
 

I for one have no idea why Jameis doesn’t get more love around the NFL. He signs w the Giants and then they sign Wilson and draft Dart.  And look at the crap the Saints are throwing out there this year at QB.  Winston is a leader and loves the game of football.  He is the black Fitzie and a poor man’s Favre.  I would love him to be our backup over Trubisky. 
 

The game is so controlled by coaches today.  A guy like Winston who just goes out and throws it all over the yard is not what most coaching staffs want.  (Including I would imagine the Bills) The guy is just a breath of fresh air.  

A couple of comments from me - one, Winston is not a leader.  He comes off as kind of stupid, the whole eat a "W" thing was bizarre.  And lately he has had this religious thing going on.

 

Secondly, IMO, the Bills would not want Winston as the backup.  The Bills do not have a good WR core and IMO that is what Winston needs.  The Tampa Winston teams had Evans and Godwin and Winston still threw a boatload of INTs.

 

But I do think Winston is better than what a lot of other teams have at QB, and plays a more exciting brand of ball.

[ticketssince61]

1. Too bad we traded up for Sammy instead of Mike Evans

2. What were the Titans thinking in trading away AJ Brown - what a steal for the Eagles

3. It does not seem to make sense to include the receiver's body of work over the past few years .It should only take into account recent production

4. I imagine that once you get the past top 15 or 20, there are a whole slew of players that really could be placed in that category

 

 

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are 9 teams with Super Bowl odds of +1900 or less. In parenthesis, the number of wide receivers inside of PFF’s top 32:

 

Eagles (2)

Ravens (1)

Bills (0)

Chiefs (1)

Lions (2)

Rams (2)

Commanders (2)

Packers (0)

Bengals (2)

I don’t know if this tells much. It is a little wild though that more than 1/2 of the top 9 teams have multiple WRs in the top 32 and at least 1 in the top 10. The Eagles with 1 & 7, Lions with 4 & 32, Rams with 5 & 16, Commanders with 10 & 30, and the Bengals with 3 & 14.

 

It is also wild that Ohio State has 5 guys in the top 32 (6 if you count Jameson Williams) and LSU has 4 of the top 15. 

That may also be a list of the top 9 QB's in the league as well. 

[ngbills]

3 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Shakir is getting disrespected cause with his speed, he's not taking it to the house enough. only 4 TD's 

And his best year is 800 yards. Outside of Buffalo people see a 800 yard season an peanuts. If he goes off for 1200+ next year I think he makes the list. 

[Pete]

21 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-wide-receiver-rankings-top-32-2025-season

Didn’t some poster argue that AJ Brown was not elite?  LOL

 

First words in that article:

 

A.J. Brown is the league's best wide receiver: Brown earned the league's highest receiving grade versus single coverage in 2024 (96.6) and leads the league in that category over the past three seasons (2022–24) with a 97.0 grade.

[LABILLBACKER]

14 hours ago, Mango said:

 

One thing to note is QB contracts.

 

Sure some guys got paid like Hurts, but they aren't in the meat of their deals yet so they can pay everybody. Then on the other end you have the Bengals who paid Burrow and paid their WR' and they're all messed up because of it.

 

Buffalo, KC,and Baltimore have a much greater balancing act.

 

Stafford and the Rams are a bit of an outlier.

 

All that said, McBeane have just missed too many times with pass catchers in the draft. And their insurance on devoting resources to pass catching backs that they don't throw the ball to is maddening. Honorable mention to TE's as well.

 

 

Why do I get the feeling that the Bills legacy during the Allen era will be to perpetually sign fa's at both wr & de. They just struggle to draft a game wrecker at either position.