wettlaufer Posted July 9 Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Long Suffering Fan said: I'm not saying that Kincaid didn't do those things. I'm saying that he runs 15-20 yards or so after the ball is released and this was not a laser throw Look at his footwork just as he enters the frame and you can tell that he didn't track the ball well. It looks like he slows down, speeds up, and then realizes his mistake and slams on the brakes. The majority of the time an NFL WR (and even Dalton himself some of the time) would have settled under the ball and not over ran it. Josh could never step into it from the snap. He made a good throw under the circumstances, for sure. I think a wind gust gave it a last-second nudge to the left, however. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted July 9 Posted July 9 One day there will be a 24 page thread about me being skinny. THAT is my goal. Until then, can someone pass the blue cheese? 5 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 How an athlete can play in Buffalo and not fatten up naturally is amazing. Quote
VW82 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 This thread is annoying. Kincaid is one of the few elite talents on offense not named Allen or Cook. He had a bad year due to injury. I expect him to come back healthy and dominate in year 3. Pairing elite TE route running ability with elite QB passing is almost always a recipe for success. I don't understand the knee jerk to crap all over DK, especially when he's the most likely candidate to make our offense basically unstoppable. 3 3 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted July 9 Posted July 9 He should copy Mahomes’ eating habits, apparently… 1 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 15 hours ago, Long Suffering Fan said: I'm not saying that Kincaid didn't do those things. I'm saying that he runs 15-20 yards or so after the ball is released and this was not a laser throw Look at his footwork just as he enters the frame and you can tell that he didn't track the ball well. It looks like he slows down, speeds up, and then realizes his mistake and slams on the brakes. The majority of the time an NFL WR (and even Dalton himself some of the time) would have settled under the ball and not over ran it. The instant Josh throws the ball, Kincaid has to jam on the brakes, turn around and dive backwards. He's running a deep post and the ball is thrown behind him and closer to the LOS, so he has to make a complicated adjustment, getting his feet further down the field and towards the sidelines than his body weight so he can drive and jump back towards the ball. That's always going to take time for a guy whose job on the play is to be running as fast as he can. You can see him speed up his feet and swing to the left while trying to slow his upper body down. It's an extremely awkward situation, more so for a guy with bad knees. No way he's settling under it, not in that situation. And he doesn't run anywhere near 15 - 20 yards. Maybe 12 or so? Maybe. He's in a horrible situation because his legs are behind him as he sprints and he has to get them in front of him and upfield to dive back towards the ball. Go look at the All-22. You don't have to guess as you do on the broadcast footage. You can see every step. You're right that it was not a laser throw, not at all, but he didn't have an extra instant to work with. There was no way to settle under it. He sees it, knows he will have to go from running full speed to going backwards and back downfield. It takes him several steps to do that, as it would anyone. If Josh had either thrown better under duress or had maybe two-tenths of a second more to gather himself, that's a TD running away. 1 Quote
Long Suffering Fan Posted July 10 Posted July 10 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: No way he's settling under it, not in that situation. He is not even running full speed, his head is turned toward the QB at the release, and his footwork is telling. He doesn't even have to settle under it. My point is he misread the throw and that is an underrated WR skill. We are going to disagree on this, which is fine. Quote
SCBills Posted July 10 Posted July 10 16 hours ago, VW82 said: This thread is annoying. Kincaid is one of the few elite talents on offense not named Allen or Cook. He had a bad year due to injury. I expect him to come back healthy and dominate in year 3. Pairing elite TE route running ability with elite QB passing is almost always a recipe for success. I don't understand the knee jerk to crap all over DK, especially when he's the most likely candidate to make our offense basically unstoppable. I’m expecting big things from him this year, but having an injury plagued sophomore slump as a highly drafted player is going to bring on criticism. Especially when he basically ended our season in symbolic fashion as a one play synopsis of why we haven’t gotten to a Super Bowl with Josh Allen yet. JA makes a superhuman play that would be remembered for years in NFL Playoff history should we go on to win the game and instead, it’s dropped, and we lose. Diggs blew a lot of goodwill by how we parted ways, but some of that goodwill was already out the door with the drop in the Divisional Round and overall lack of impact every postseason here. Fair or not, players at impact positions will be judged by their playoffs here far more than their regular seasons. So far, only Josh truly elevates his games in those moments. The fan bases frustration will continue until somebody decides they want to be his Travis Kelce, Tyreek Hill or Chris Jones. Three guys who have been huge reasons for the Chiefs dominance along with Mahomes. This year can put that all behind us, but it’s Year 3 and on a team with a lot of question marks at weaponry, a guy we actually invested in has to make the jump. 2 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 11 hours ago, Long Suffering Fan said: He is not even running full speed, his head is turned toward the QB at the release, and his footwork is telling. He doesn't even have to settle under it. My point is he misread the throw and that is an underrated WR skill. We are going to disagree on this, which is fine. It's indeed totally fine, but he's absolutely running full speed. You don't have a deep post called, notice that nobody's deep on the side you're running towards and nobody's going deep with you and think, "I'd better run slowly on this, let 'em have time to close on me, make the throw harder for Josh." He didn't misread the throw. He had a hard time going from a full sprint to adjusting to a throw in the most awkward possible direction for him. He had to get his feet not just ahead of him but also further towards the end zone so he could leap back towards the center of the field and the line of scrimmage at the same time. This forced him to run his legs ahead of his body, making a strange little curving path, but it was the fastest way he could adjust. There wasn't a way to do that quickly. 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted July 11 Posted July 11 On 7/8/2025 at 7:59 AM, Thurman#1 said: He absolutely has been good, damn good. But then not so good. He's been up and down. His first year he was really good. Second year up and down, and more down. But it's just not so that he's never been good. Maybe it's recency bias... or I had unrealistic expectations because of all the gushing over him on draft night and Jerry Jones looking so sad. You're right that looking back, he did certainly have some good stretches. Hopefully it was just injury related and he will heal up and be back to 100% this season! Quote
Thurman#1 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 It's weird that nobody has reported on how he looks since camp started, isn't it? Does he look bigger? The same? Have they asked him if he's stronger, if he's lifting more? He's playing really well so far, and that's the important thing. We know he was there a ton in the offseason putting in the work and getting stronger, as Beane has reported on that. But I am a bit curious about how he looks and nobody has asked, I guess. Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 He had a heck of a practice today... as long as he stays healthy and can still do the same blocking duties he did last season.. I can care less. Quote
inkman Posted August 6 Posted August 6 6 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: He looks fine to me. Does he look fine or does he look fiiiinnne? 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Shout out to Kincaid. Very good performance last night. Not just on his clutch catches, but he had a few HUGE blocks on runs. 4 1 Quote
FireChans Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Shout out to Kincaid. Very good performance last night. Not just on his clutch catches, but he had a few HUGE blocks on runs. He played very well, but this thread was the first thing I thought of when he got rolled to the dirt by that Ravens DB Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted September 8 Posted September 8 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: He played very well, but this thread was the first thing I thought of when he got rolled to the dirt by that Ravens DB I dont know, but he had a play early in the game (maybe first drive even) where he blocked his dude almost all the way into the Ravens bench. Was nice to see. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Kincaid played very well last night . He made plays with the opportunities he was given and blocked his tail off for a skinny guy Quote
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