GoBills808 Posted September 26 Posted September 26 2 minutes ago, uninja said: Ā And considering the cast of WRs he had to throw for that Super Bowl run it's honestly even more impressive. People can crap on Cam all they want, for the few years he was he was at his peak in the league he was a force on that Panthers team. Cam was the man loved watching him work 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: Hardly. He was paid 59 million over 6 years. 24 million guaranteed. Less than 10 mil a season Ā Just now, Ray Stonada said: that sounds like good money to me Ā $82M in career earnings. Not bad for a journeyman. (and future Hall of Famer!) 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 26 Posted September 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: im fully aware of the skill guys.Ā now name me an OLineman who matters for them. Aaron brewer has been great the last year+ whenever I see him. The dolphins make no sense tua looked even better when his offensive line was worse lol. Theyāre actually playing pretty decent this year which is shocking. On paper they really shouldnāt beĀ Ā tua looks so uncomfortable when he gets time it is bizarreĀ Edited September 26 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
MJS Posted September 26 Posted September 26 2 hours ago, dcinmuncie said: say what you want about Cam. he dresses like a clown. he can be annoying. but he did win a national championship. he had one of the greatest college football seasons i've ever seen. he was the first overall pick. he led his team to a superbowl appearance and has an MVP. not exactly a guy with a clicker. he knows his football Tua won a national championship as well and was a top 5 pick in the draft. Cam did all that because of unrivaled athletic ability, not because he was smart with x's and o's. I mean, I'm sure he knows football. He was an NFL QB. But that was never what made him special. It is usually the less physically gifted QBs (like Tua) who know the game better because they have to. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted September 26 Posted September 26 38 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Ā Ā $82M in career earnings. Not bad for a journeyman. (and future Hall of Famer!) And lets be real, he was one of the top 40 players in the world at his position for over a decade. He earned that 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Tua is locked in for next season the earliest the Fins could reasonably get out off Tua is 2027 and even then they have to take a 30+ million dollar cap hit... 2 Quote
transient Posted September 26 Posted September 26 18 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Tua is locked in for next season the earliest the Fins could reasonably get out off Tua is 2027 and even then they have to take a 30+ million dollar cap hit... 8 Quote
Jerome007 Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Tua is a quality QB, an NFL starter for sure, yet not elite, not even close to the Top 5. Yet he was paid as such, and I actually liked it very much when it was announced. IMO it made the Fins weaker, and well, that's good ha ha. We see it now.Ā BTW that was my worry with Josh. That he would be good but not great. You know, the kind of QB you don't get rid of but that doesn't give you a real chance at the Big One. He buriedĀ that worry quite fast ha ha.Ā Ā 3 hours ago, transient said: If the league hadn't let defenders beat the living crap out of Cam he'd probably still be playing at a higher level than Tua. Newton made a lot of designed runs inside the tackles, like a RB. I couldn't believe it. Not that you get injured, but all those hits have to affect the accuracy of a QB! Even small dings in your throwing shoulder and arm will affect it. Anyway, old news now. Just don't do that with Josh!Ā Quote
H2o Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Tua cannot operate outside of the timing based system he is in now. He's not really mobile. His arm strength is meh. He's not going to create on his own. It was a massive overpay by Miami.Ā 1 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Maybe the title of this thread should change to Tua gets 53m a year, Miami left holding the bag 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 27 Posted September 27 (edited) On 9/26/2025 at 3:50 PM, MJS said: Tua won a national championship as well and was a top 5 pick in the draft. Cam did all that because of unrivaled athletic ability, not because he was smart with x's and o's. I mean, I'm sure he knows football. He was an NFL QB. But that was never what made him special. It is usually the less physically gifted QBs (like Tua) who know the game better because they have to. Tua blew out his hip at Alabama and you get a lot of power from that trunk.. and he had a severe injury.. his arm was actually stronger by a decent amount pre-injury.. not that he had a Stafford or Josh Allen arm.. but he lost juiceĀ Ā Go back farther to when he was in high school he was actually was more a gun slinger... he actually relied all on his natural ability which was he was an amazing thrower of the footballĀ Ā When he went to the elite 11 finals.. Trent really grilled into him hard.. he was not a field general but a big play gunslinger who's talent led to a lack of some fundamentals... But over the three days he took to the best coaching and actually won the elite 11 finalsĀ Ā It's a shame because I've liked tua since high school but his terrible injury at Alabama definitely affected his arm strength because a smaller guy like him needs that lower body to drive through and it was a catastrophic injury Ā Even just watch his game-winning pass as a true freshman in the national championship game and he threads the needle on a 40 yard pass..with timing and anticipation and good arm strength as an 18-year-old true freshmanĀ Ā Not a favre or Josh Allen rope but for an 18-year-old kid, in the national championship game, coming off the bench... That's a hell of a throw not close to a lollipop Edited September 27 by Buffalo716 2 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted September 27 Posted September 27 15 hours ago, H2o said: Tua cannot operate outside of the timing based system he is in now. He's not really mobile. His arm strength is meh. He's not going to create on his own. It was a massive overpay by Miami.Ā Not only that he cannot throw in poor weather conditions. Ā He will never win in January. 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted September 27 Posted September 27 This includes free medical and a discount on brain scans 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 27 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: This includes free medical and a discount on brain scans "With every five scans, your sixth isĀ FREE! Ā And we use aĀ REALĀ doctor to determine if you're concussed!" Ā 1 Quote
Dan in Owego Posted September 27 Posted September 27 On 9/26/2025 at 3:17 PM, GoBills808 said: Cam was the man loved watching him work Yeah especially when he gave his best to recover that fumble in the Super Bowlš¤, maybe one of the all time lows I've ever witnessed from a professional athlete. After that display you don't have a lot of room to lecture. Quote
Jerry Jabber Posted September 27 Posted September 27 Hopefully the Dolphins extend Tua again after his current contract. Heās doing a great job for the Billsā¦cough, coughā¦excuse me, the Dolphins. Quote
Behindenemylines Posted September 27 Posted September 27 Letās all accept the fact that physically gifted sometimes merges with intellectual ability at the Ā QB position. Ā Ā most times one ability covers the other but other times it doesnāt.Ā Ā Manning (pick you brother) had a higher football IQ than most and used that for SB. Nobody will state their athletic ability was above average.Ā Ā other times athletic ability covers and gets you so far. Ā Maybe to a SB. Ā Ā itās a combo and I believe IQ Beats pure athleticism every time. Ā Ā Ā as a Bills fan this leaves me overly optimisticĀ Ā Quote
GoBills808 Posted September 27 Posted September 27 33 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: Yeah especially when he gave his best to recover that fumble in the Super Bowlš¤, maybe one of the all time lows I've ever witnessed from a professional athlete. After that display you don't have a lot of room to lecture. Horrendous takeĀ Quote
Dan in Owego Posted September 27 Posted September 27 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Horrendous takeĀ Really why? Ā could you see Josh doing the same? Quote
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