oldmanfan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: How dare he think and say things that other people might not agree with! I would never He has the right to his opinion as do you. I have the right to disagree. Welcome to America. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: NFL disavows Chiefs Kicker Harrison Butker's commencement address Did the Secretary disavow any knowledge of his actions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 The Butker thread yesterday disappeared. But let's just say the things doing the rounds on the artist formerly known as twitter fall into the "the man doth protest too much" in regards to the "deadly sins" section of his speech. And he wouldn't be the first. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 44 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: He has the right to his opinion as do you. I have the right to disagree. Welcome to America. If only thats where it ended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 This is a great litmus test between people who will fall all over themselves promoting and defending The Current Thing, versus someone who espouses traditional values. Free speech for me, canceling for thee 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The Butker thread yesterday disappeared. But let's just say the things doing the rounds on the artist formerly known as twitter fall into the "the man doth protest too much" in regards to the "deadly sins" section of his speech. And he wouldn't be the first. He played a little grab ass in college? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: One can live in section 8 housing, collect welfare and food stamps. 😏 Poor people are never happy? Money = happiness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Who's canceling him? He's making millions, has three rings, getting invited to make commencement speeches. People on a message board are not allowed to criticize when he says something stupid? By the way, I'm a father of two who is just as proud of that role as my work, and I went to Catholic School in Buffalo. Don't need a lecture on morals from a Chiefs kicker. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: Who's canceling him? He's making millions, has three rings, getting invited to make commencement speeches. People on a message board are not allowed to criticize when he says something stupid? By the way, I'm a father of two who is just as proud of that role as my work, and I went to Catholic School in Buffalo. Don't need a lecture on morals from a Chiefs kicker. I don't know about cancelling, but explain the NFL going all "The View" on him? A very predictable anti-Catholic reflex that's all the rage right now. And, this obviously political topic/post needs to be taken off the main page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 37 minutes ago, dorquemada said: This is a great litmus test between people who will fall all over themselves promoting and defending The Current Thing, versus someone who espouses traditional values. Free speech for me, canceling for thee Women having careers is “the current thing?” What an odd take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 So how does everyone like our Super Bowl chances this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 If you listen the whole speech and not the medias cutouts designed to create outrage, it’s not offensive at all, and basically correct. He compliments his wife wonderfully. im actually quite surprised by the NFLs response. It doesn’t read neutral at all. Neutral would have been appropriate. “Harrison Butker gave a speech in his personal capacity his views are not those of the NFL as an organization. The NFL is steadfast in our commitment to inclusion, which only makes our league stronger.” There needed to be a “…. His views are not NECESSARILY those of the NFL…”. Like the disclaimer before infomercials. or am I reading into it too much? Just seems like the NFL is knocking him down. Which is ridiculous because the league stays mostly silent when players beat women, crash cars at high speeds, do other illegal things …. 6 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 17 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: Who's canceling him? He's making millions, has three rings, getting invited to make commencement speeches. People on a message board are not allowed to criticize when he says something stupid? By the way, I'm a father of two who is just as proud of that role as my work, and I went to Catholic School in Buffalo. Don't need a lecture on morals from a Chiefs kicker. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 40 minutes ago, teef said: He played a little grab ass in college? He played a little something. In my experience it is always the religious straight ones who are really into it too....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He played a little something. In my experience it is always the religious straight ones who are really into it too....... That's an extreme allegation. Back it up with facts. Otherwise this is a petulant attack on religion. I'm not religious, either. There's no god, no heaven, no hell, or anything. Also, oddly a lot of replies are being scraped. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) I just watched the commencement speech for the first time. Am I missing something or was it a big who cares that the media again wants to blow up into something. It was boring like any other commencement speech and it was at a catholic university, so what did we expect it to be about. What did he say that is pissing everyone off? IMO, which thankfully I’m still allowed to have, he basically said he was grateful that his wife prioritized family and taking care of the home first over a career. Isn't that what we all want in our marriages? We should prioritize the home first so that our kids get some good morals in this jacked up world we’re throwing them out into. Now, he’s not the best public speaker or a wordsmith so things sound jumbled but he seemed genuine. Screw the media for attacking him. Would be nice if opinions were allowed to be had the same across the board in this country. He’s a kicker on an NFL team, not a politician running for office, let the man be. And I hate the chiefs so I'd be the first to attack if it was warranted lol Edited May 17 by NeverOutNick 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 minute ago, boyst said: That's an extreme allegation. Back it up with facts. You want my full body count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/15/2024 at 12:41 PM, Logic said: 1.) I support the right of every American to espouse whatever opinion they want, even if I don't agree with what they say. 2.) His specific message seems pretty on-brand for the audience to whom he was speaking. 3.) His words are incredibly tone deaf and, as others have pointed out, do not acknowledge the reality that the lived experience of a rich man (and his wife) is likely quite different than that of most normal people, and is not necessarily relatable or applicable. 4.) It seems somewhat bizarre to tell a bunch of women who are about to graduate from college that they ought to stick to the kitchen instead. 5.) Anything else I could say would likely offend people, venture into PPP territory, or generally not be productive. Instead, I will just keep my mouth shut and take my cue from my friends in the south and say regarding Harrison Butker: "Bless his heart". 1. You clearly do not abide by point 1. Otherwise you wouldn't feel the need for point 5 unless you are just signaling for the rest of these...um...fine citizens. Lol. This place. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You want my full body count? No, I don't care. Just weird you're throwing it at Butker like he was some serial groper or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Just now, boyst said: No, I don't care. Just weird you're throwing it at Butker like he was some serial groper or something. Not a serial groper. That wasn't my accusation. Just that the rumour mill is linking him to experiences at college that he would now consider "sin". And not just "sin". "Deadly Sin". Well I've sinned lots in that case and it hasn't been deadly yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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