Aussie Joe Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, alg said: The $11m makes a difference. Not sure how much. But why do it if you are trading him a month later ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Completely disagree. They will all be gone. I think one of Franklin, Legette, or Coleman is there at 60. Crazy because before the draft process started I thought Franklin would rise. But I guess being a little smaller and slower plus having a bad combine hurt him. Edited April 25 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: But why do it if you are trading him a month later ? Didn't they pay out some money to Diggs just before trading him? And doesn't the Dawkins terms make him more attractive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 A Dion trade results in: 2024 Dead Cap: $22,739,499 2024 Savings: $-11,229,666 I don’t know how they do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: A Dion trade results in: 2024 Dead Cap: $22,739,499 2024 Savings: $-11,229,666 I don’t know how they do that. Dion who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: A Dion trade results in: 2024 Dead Cap: $22,739,499 2024 Savings: $-11,229,666 I don’t know how they do that. That would kill my fight of fancy, but I doubt it's accurate. Dion likely has a bunch of guaranteed money, but most can be passed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Dion who? A poster is floating a Dion Dawkins trade. I think it’s impossible. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I can almost guarantee one of the WRs we want really bad will be there at 60. Not the ones I want 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: A poster is floating a Dion Dawkins trade. I think it’s impossible. Recall how many people thought the Collins signing was to turn Spencer Brown into a trade chip. Dawkins makes more sense. Edited April 25 by alg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, alg said: Didn't they pay out some money to Diggs just before trading him? And doesn't the Dawkins terms make him more attractive? Does it ? I think Dawkins was paid a fair market value for his extension .. I can’t recall them paying Diggs anymore money this season … I think they did have to pay like a $3m higher cap hit to cut him,,, Of course Diggs is a cancer they wanted rid of and I think they quite like Dawkins … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 The one thing I will say about Keon Coleman is he was way higher on draft boards in January and so I think he winds up going late 1 somewhere. People who liked Coleman before the combine aren’t going to hate him all of a sudden because he ran a slow 40. I just keep thinking about Beane being excited about Gabe Davis’ slow 40 because it allowed us to have a shot at him. I want Thomas or Mitchell, but I could see Coleman as a dark-horse. I think he will go higher than people think. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Does it ? I think Dawkins was paid a fair market value for his extension .. I can’t recall them paying Diggs anymore money this season … I think they did have to pay like a $3m higher cap hit to cut him,,, Of course Diggs is a cancer they wanted rid of and I think they quite like Dawkins … My enduring mental pic of Dawkins will be (after telling the world Buffalo could not lose at home) of stepping on Josh and killing a Shakir TD. I doubt I'm the only one who noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: A poster is floating a Dion Dawkins trade. I think it’s impossible. They just signed him to a top 10 contract. Like a couple weeks ago. Edited April 25 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Dion who? Celine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, alg said: Recall how many people thought the Collins signing was to turn Spencer Brown into a trade chip. Dawkins makes more sense. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to be a hater, but mathematically it doesn’t make sense. You are also taking away another leader on a team that has been gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, alg said: My enduring mental pic of Dawkins will be (after telling the world Buffalo could not lose at home) of stepping on Josh and killing a Shakir TD. I doubt I'm the only one who noticed. Ok.. Let’s see what happens the next 24 hours … I gotta feeling your run of correctly predicting what Beane does in the draft might be coming to an end… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, RiotAct said: Celine. She is looking fitter! Do you think we could get her if we can obtain a 3rd? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to be a hater, but mathematically it doesn’t make sense. You are also taking away another leader on a team that has been gutted. Not to worry. I expected people to laugh at me. But remember it if it goes down tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, alg said: My enduring mental pic of Dawkins will be (after telling the world Buffalo could not lose at home) of stepping on Josh and killing a Shakir TD. I doubt I'm the only one who noticed. That play sucked no doubt. But it’s a guy getting beat by one of the best players in the league. And it is one critical mistake In a game’s worth of dumb and preposterous mistakes and lack of execution and missed opportunities. It’s easy to hate on Dion, but that isn’t why they lost. 1 minute ago, alg said: Not to worry. I expected people to laugh at me. But remember it if it goes down tomorrow. I will not hesitate to hand out kudos if you are indeed correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, alg said: Not to worry. I expected people to laugh at me. But remember it if it goes down tomorrow. Trust me, I was saying all offseason that the time is now to trade Diggs. I got killed for it. Trading Dawkins right after signing him is like 100% less likely to happen. 6 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Celine. I guess our hearts will go on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Trust me, I was saying all offseason that the time is now to trade Diggs. I got killed for it. Trading Dawkins right after signing him is like 100% less likely to happen. Yeah, seemed like we were a year too late on Diggs. That extension was up there with Miller's contract. The signing makes Dawkins worth more. Locked up in his prime. IDK if I got the bonus/cap hit right, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 minutes ago, TOboy said: She is looking fitter! Do you think we could get her if we can obtain a 3rd? This would be a mistake of Titanic proportions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, alg said: Yeah, seemed like we were a year too late on Diggs. That extension was up there with Miller's contract. The signing makes Dawkins worth more. Locked up in his prime. IDK if I got the bonus/cap hit right, though. It wouldn’t make any sense. I would think about it if a team in the top 8 said we’ll give you our pick for Dawkins and 28. I just don’t see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I’ve never been more relaxed about an upcoming draft…I think it might be because I have such low expectations… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 27 minutes ago, alg said: My enduring mental pic of Dawkins will be (after telling the world Buffalo could not lose at home) of stepping on Josh and killing a Shakir TD. I doubt I'm the only one who noticed. Did you notice the otherwise amazing game he played on the 60+ other snaps? If you didn’t, the game is a available on youtube and you’ll see. He had a great season last year and dumping a left tackle in his prime is about the dumbest thing a team can do. Also, on that one play, he was facing the 2023 version of aaron donald (chris jones), and it’s not as if he got destroyed. He was up against the best d-lineman in the league on a money play, and it is what it is. Edited April 25 by dave mcbride 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 41 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Great to hear from you Brandon 😂… Bills just paid Dawkins an $11m Signing bonus just to trade him a month later ? They really lighting Pegs money on fire this offseason .. Lol might need to bump the 25% up to 30% 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Did you notice the otherwise amazing game he played on the 60+ other snaps? If you didn’t, the game is a available on youtube and you’ll see. He had a great season last year and dumping a left tackle in his prime is about the dumbest thing a team can do. Also, on that one play, he was facing the 2023 version of aaron donald (chris jones), and it’s not as if he got destroyed. He was up against the best d-lineman in the league on a money play, and it is what it is. Pretty much sums up why the Bills can’t beat the Chiefs. They always have someone better than our best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I don’t get it but if he falls, I’ll take it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, Thrivefourfive said: Pretty much sums up why the Bills can’t beat the Chiefs. They always have someone better than our best. Our best is josh allen, and he left the field with under 2 minutes to go and his kicker in position to make a kick that is usually made that would equal Mahomes’s output. He had no control over the fact that our kicker — who is stilll weirdly on the team after going 2 for 5 in the postseason — had the yips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 13 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I don’t get it but if he falls, I’ll take it Sounds like the kind of thing the Bills would put out there through Simms… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 15 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I don’t get it but if he falls, I’ll take it He isn't getting past 10. The Jets will run to the podium if he's there. As much as I want him to be a Bill, I really don't want him on the Jets just as much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Daniel Jeremiah has us taking Thomas at 28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, DJB said: Daniel Jeremiah has us taking Thomas at 28 There are zero trades in Jeremiah’s draft, which is ridiculous and an indicator to me that a person doesn’t have the courage of his own convictions. It is a day before the draft — project trades, which ALWAYS happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, alg said: I rarely post, but feel I owe the community an outlandish projection. And I have earned the right. - KNEW that Allen was the Josh before the pick when 90% of this board had Rosen. - Picked Oliver as the target. - Sorta knew Kinnkaid was the man. - Strongly believed Diggs would be traded even though everyone claimed the cap was a no-go. - IDK, I may be in Beane's head ... that's why I need to type this. With that out of the way: Setting the stage: - Most teams now regard Malik Nabers as the #1 WR - MHJ dropped a bit due to non-combine participation. - Rome is showing up on more mocks out of the top 10. - AZ is going to cash in on a trade-down. - And if AZ doesn't, the Chargers will. - LAC could go WR, but almost everyone expects Joe Alt. - The Giants likely shut out of QB convo, will go WR - TN is all about an OT. Maybe like LAC. - Bills signed L Collins. - Diggs was not the only player feeling their oats on Twitter. D Dawkins was there too with his predictions. And post-season, with the googly eyes hoping he would get his extension. 3x20m. - LAC wants to move down, and TN needs OT too. The Terms: - If the Bills believe they have a replacement on the roster for Dawkins, he will be used as trade bait for LAC/TN. - Bills could then make that trade without exhausting this and next year's draft capital. - 28, 60, 2025 2nd for 1.5/7 + 4th. Projection: - 1-4 QB - LAC - Joe Alt - NYG select - Nabers, a diva in waiting. He will make Diggs and his passive-aggressive antics look like a straight-shooting choirboy. - Bills via TN - MHJ. I may be overestimating Dawkins' return. And of course, misreading the tea leaves. But that is my Mighty Kreskin moment for the 2024 NFL Draft. The combine has little to no affect and where someone is drafted. It’s a TV show. Colleges have pro days and teams have private workouts. Bills are not trading Dawkins, they have no comparable replacement and Allen may walk if that happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Trade up for Brock Bowers and we’re in business. 2.5 elite tight ends. Make it happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, akcash said: Trade up for Brock Bowers and we’re in business. 2.5 elite tight ends. Make it happen. New craze to hit the NFL, offenses going from 3 WR sets to predominantly 3 TE sets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, akcash said: Trade up for Brock Bowers and we’re in business. 2.5 elite tight ends. Make it happen. That’s what I’m talking about. Kincaid, Knox, Bowers, Quintin Morris, and Lee Smith lined up wide for a Hail Mary in the 4th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 54 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: That play sucked no doubt. But it’s a guy getting beat by one of the best players in the league. And it is one critical mistake In a game’s worth of dumb and preposterous mistakes and lack of execution and missed opportunities. It’s easy to hate on Dion, but that isn’t why they lost. I will not hesitate to hand out kudos if you are indeed correct! Your generosity has been noticed here . Well done Dawkins is Josh's best friend on the field. he has proven it. aint goin no wheres If I am wrong I will own it Go Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: That’s what I’m talking about. Kincaid, Knox, Bowers, Quintin Morris, and Lee Smith lined up wide for a Hail Mary in the 4th. Lee Smith be Mossin people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 11 minutes ago, DJB said: Daniel Jeremiah has us taking Thomas at 28 Loved it and then I saw AD Mitchell go to KC at 32 😒 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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