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15 minutes ago, Beast said:

Yes.

 

Next question.


You mean like taking over a team, trading away and cutting players, and making the playoffs for the first time in 2 decades with Tyrod Taylor as your QB?

 

 

Kind of like that, but making it on a last second win by another team to back in and then missing the playoffs the following year still says its a test of McDermott. I know I want to see the team succeed, and that takes good leadership when you have roster turn over. The defense has some concerns but I think we are in good shape knowing we have the draft in front of us with Allen and a solid O. Still need to see what it is like with Babich as DC, and Brady's 1st full season at OC. If things start to go wonky how does he adjust.

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2 hours ago, bills6969 said:

I have concerns on the defensive side of the ball.  Specifically, with replacing Poyer/Hyde. Replacing their production/leadership will not be easy. Need some leaders to step up on D.

 

As long as we have JA17, a Super Bowl should always be the goal.  There are alot of shoes to fill going into this season.  I do like that we aren’t really coming up in conversation for Super Bowl contenders.  I think we get a bit overlooked this year, which I think will be good for this team.

lol no

 

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I find this baffling. Help me understand. The Bills have plugged in a variety of guys over the McDermott era and have been more or less the same. They’ve played extended periods without Poyer, Milano, Tre, Von, Hyde, etc… The scheme has had them more or less the same defense regardless of who is out there. They play a conservative zone where they try to avoid big plays and keep the game close. Why do we think, with most of the same guys (minus Poyer, Floyd & Hyde plus Milano) that they will be significantly different? Sean McDermott’s defenses are always about the same. Explain why I should be scared? If the answer is “pass rush” they may need to generate more with the blitz but outside of Floyd (who disappeared late in the year) what’s changed? 
 

The offense has to replace their number 1 and number 2 WRs from last year (not to mention their 4th & 5th). Those 2 guys account for like 250 targets. They added a special teamer and a gadget guy. Why are we comfortable that it’ll work with no boundary WRs on the roster except Shorter and Hollins? The Bills still need 200ish targets from guys not on the roster. It’ll be so easy to defend them right now with no outside threats. There is a Grand Canyon-sized chasm between the need for offense vs. the need for defense right now.


Help me understand how you’re comfortable with the offense but not the defense?


He just didn’t think it through like you did. 

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1 hour ago, Ga boy said:

Gotta do D line in first, then get Legette and/or Coleman.  Jets look tough but we’ll win division. Just need a couple more plays to get by KC.  We can beat any NFC team.  Any questions?

So we are prioritizing a rotational DL above a #1 (and #2 for that matter) WR? The Bills still have about 200 targets unaccounted for and no boundary WRs (except Hollins & Shorter). Sorry, I don’t see it. As far as needs right now, I see it as:

 

WR1

 

 

WR2

 

 

everything else 

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2 hours ago, Rubes said:

I agree with OP that defense is the big question mark for me this year. Will we be able to generate a pass rush? Will the secondary make up for the losses? Will Milano stay healthy for a full season?

 

I expect we'll be okay on offense, but I can't see us going very far if the defense is a notch or two worse than last year.

 

 

I hear you both that defense is a question mark.  But then, last season with losing Edmunds and not having a clear cut MLB or Von Miller to start the season and with Tre White as a giant ? based on the end of 2022, I thought our defense was iffy and our offense would have to carry us (which, I thought it could)

 

Turned out it was the other way around - our defense was solid until we lost Tre, DaQuan and Milano, with Floyd playing great in place of Miller and Tre back to his old form.  Our offense was tenuous with splendid plays offset by miscues.

I think the D will be O.K. provided Milano is back to form and we get SOMETHING from Von Miller besides interviews and podcasts.  Both the guys we brought in at S (Rapp and Edwards) can play, so can Douglas and Benford.  Injuries are a huge question right now, as we're thin behind the starters.

 

I guess from that, my learning is I have more faith in McDermott and Beane to bring forward a defense that works no matter what and to add what they need if they don't, than I do in them to devote enough resources and have the right OC and players in place on offense.

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2 hours ago, bills6969 said:

I have concerns on the defensive side of the ball.  Specifically, with replacing Poyer/Hyde. Replacing their production/leadership will not be easy. Need some leaders to step up on D.

 

As long as we have JA17, a Super Bowl should always be the goal.  There are alot of shoes to fill going into this season.  I do like that we aren’t really coming up in conversation for Super Bowl contenders.  I think we get a bit overlooked this year, which I think will be good for this team.

You have to define what "being in contention" means to you.  That is going to mean different things to different people.

 

Did you think, for example, that we were in contention to win the SB last year?  I did not.

 

"In contention" to me means one of a handful of teams being discussed to win a SB and expectations to do so, with some luck, being realistic.

 

We MIGHT be in contention next year; next year's team doesn't exist yet so it 's hard to comment on that.

 

I am predicting playoffs and an exit from them right around where we always do, and the post-season discussion being about "heat on McDermott" more than ever, if he isn't fired outright at season's end.

 

I would gladly trade me being totally wrong for a SB victory.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

You have to define what "being in contention" means to you.  That is going to mean different things to different people.

 

Did you think, for example, that we were in contention to win the SB last year?  I did not.

 

Question: did you ever?  

 

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52 minutes ago, Beast said:

Yes.

 

Next question.


You mean like taking over a team, trading away and cutting players, and making the playoffs for the first time in 2 decades with Tyrod Taylor as your QB?

Never forget the emotional trauma suffered by many on this board when they unloaded Sam Watkins and Marcel Darius, too funny!

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44 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I hear you both that defense is a question mark.  But then, last season with losing Edmunds and not having a clear cut MLB or Von Miller to start the season and with Tre White as a giant ? based on the end of 2022, I thought our defense was iffy and our offense would have to carry us (which, I thought it could)

 

Turned out it was the other way around - our defense was solid until we lost Tre, DaQuan and Milano, with Floyd playing great in place of Miller and Tre back to his old form.  Our offense was tenuous with splendid plays offset by miscues.

I think the D will be O.K. provided Milano is back to form and we get SOMETHING from Von Miller besides interviews and podcasts.  Both the guys we brought in at S (Rapp and Edwards) can play, so can Douglas and Benford.  Injuries are a huge question right now, as we're thin behind the starters.

 

I guess from that, my learning is I have more faith in McDermott and Beane to bring forward a defense that works no matter what and to add what they need if they don't, than I do in them to devote enough resources and have the right OC and players in place on offense.


My gut says we need a better D to do better in the regular season (Pats game, Eagles game, Broncos game, etc.) and better O to go deeper in the playoffs. 

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