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I have concerns on the defensive side of the ball.  Specifically, with replacing Poyer/Hyde. Replacing their production/leadership will not be easy. Need some leaders to step up on D.

 

As long as we have JA17, a Super Bowl should always be the goal.  There are alot of shoes to fill going into this season.  I do like that we aren’t really coming up in conversation for Super Bowl contenders.  I think we get a bit overlooked this year, which I think will be good for this team.

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17 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

I have concerns on the defensive side of the ball.  Specifically, with replacing Poyer/Hyde. Replacing their production/leadership will not be easy. Need some leaders to step up on D.

 

As long as we have JA17, a Super Bowl should always be the goal.  There are alot of shoes to fill going into this season.  I do like that we aren’t really coming up in conversation for Super Bowl contenders.  I think we get a bit overlooked this year, which I think will be good for this team.

The Bills currently have the 4th lowest odds to win the Super Bowl. As long as Josh Allen is with the Bills they are in Super Bowl contention. How they address WR determines if they become “more likely” or “less likely” as the season approaches. That’s the only thing left that’s a needle mover one way or the other.

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We will be, as long as we get at least one boundary WR in a draft that can start day one, just another one of my opinions…, 

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I agree with OP that defense is the big question mark for me this year. Will we be able to generate a pass rush? Will the secondary make up for the losses? Will Milano stay healthy for a full season?

 

I expect we'll be okay on offense, but I can't see us going very far if the defense is a notch or two worse than last year.

 

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It would be very “if the NFL was scripted” if we not only won the SB, but hosted the Texans to get there and Diggs could finally watch the Bills celebration in person… as his new team limps into the locker room broken hearted. Revenge for 2019 and for the Diggs drama all in one. Oh, and we beat the Chiefs in a Divisional playoff game with a blowout. 
 

sooooo script writers, if you’re reading this, you’re welcome and please do not deviate from my notes here. You can repay me with a Bills SB championship or two over the next 3 seasons

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Rubes said:

I agree with OP that defense is the big question mark for me this year. Will we be able to generate a pass rush? Will the secondary make up for the losses? Will Milano stay healthy for a full season?

 

I expect we'll be okay on offense, but I can't see us going very far if the defense is a notch or two worse than last year.

 

I find this baffling. Help me understand. The Bills have plugged in a variety of guys over the McDermott era and have been more or less the same. They’ve played extended periods without Poyer, Milano, Tre, Von, Hyde, etc… The scheme has had them more or less the same defense regardless of who is out there. They play a conservative zone where they try to avoid big plays and keep the game close. Why do we think, with most of the same guys (minus Poyer, Floyd & Hyde plus Milano) that they will be significantly different? Sean McDermott’s defenses are always about the same. Explain why I should be scared? If the answer is “pass rush” they may need to generate more with the blitz but outside of Floyd (who disappeared late in the year) what’s changed? 
 

The offense has to replace their number 1 and number 2 WRs from last year (not to mention their 4th & 5th). Those 2 guys account for like 250 targets. They added a special teamer and a gadget guy. Why are we comfortable that it’ll work with no boundary WRs on the roster except Shorter and Hollins? The Bills still need 200ish targets from guys not on the roster. It’ll be so easy to defend them right now with no outside threats. There is a Grand Canyon-sized chasm between the need for offense vs. the need for defense right now.


Help me understand how you’re comfortable with the offense but not the defense?

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The questions on defense might be overblown. Both safety spots are really the only positions with significant change. While Hyde and Poyer were great in their time with the team, there is no denying they were both old last season by safety standards. Not out of the question that we are not losing much at all by moving on from both in the grand scheme of things. 

 

As @Kirby Jackson noted, the defense in particular has played a lot of games in the McDermott/Allen era without key defensive pieces for long stretches. Losing  Floyd, Hyde and Poyer likely doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. 

 

I get concerned about the defense in the postseason every year though. 

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1 hour ago, bills6969 said:

I have concerns on the defensive side of the ball.  Specifically, with replacing Poyer/Hyde. Replacing their production/leadership will not be easy. Need some leaders to step up on D.

 

As long as we have JA17, a Super Bowl should always be the goal.  There are alot of shoes to fill going into this season.  I do like that we aren’t really coming up in conversation for Super Bowl contenders.  I think we get a bit overlooked this year, which I think will be good for this team.

I'm not worried about the D as long as Milano comes back healthy. 

 

As far as leaders, I recall when we traded for Rasul Douglas he was praised by MANY of his Packers teammates as being a strong leader. I expect him to naturally step up. Bernard in his second year running the defense is a natural guy to step up. Edwards has won 2 Super Bowls. Rapp has a ring. Lots of experience there.

 

I think what we miss out on as far as the steady leadership we had will be offset by fresher legs. 

 

One other thing I think that's going to be unpopular. We lost former team captains in Morse, Diggs, Poyer, Hyde, Matakevich ect...but that's not always a bad thing. Just because someone is a leader doesn't mean they lend the right kind of leadership or leadership that can get you to the next level. This was an evolution that needed to happen.

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6 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

The questions on defense might be overblown. Both safety spots are really the only positions with significant change. While Hyde and Poyer were great in their time with the team, there is no denying they were both old last season by safety standards. Not out of the question that we are not losing much at all by moving on from both in the grand scheme of things. 

 

As @Kirby Jackson noted, the defense in particular has played a lot of games in the McDermott/Allen era without key defensive pieces for long stretches. Losing  Floyd, Hyde and Poyer likely doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. 

 

I get concerned about the defense in the postseason every year though. 

Gotta do D line in first, then get Legette and/or Coleman.  Jets look tough but we’ll win division. Just need a couple more plays to get by KC.  We can beat any NFC team.  Any questions?

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If contention means a playoff spot, then "Yes." If it means that we will be at least playing in the conference championship, then "No."

 

We take a small step back and then with more draft capital and a better cap situation, the team puts itself into a legitimate contender again going forward 

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10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'm not worried about the D as long as Milano comes back healthy. 

 

As far as leaders, I recall when we traded for Rasul Douglas he was praised by MANY of his Packers teammates as being a strong leader. I expect him to naturally step up. Bernard in his second year running the defense is a natural guy to step up. Edwards has won 2 Super Bowls. Rapp has a ring. Lots of experience there.

 

I think what we miss out on as far as the steady leadership we had will be offset by fresher legs. 

 

One other thing I think that's going to be unpopular. We lost former team captains in Morse, Diggs, Poyer, Hyde, Matakevich ect...but that's not always a bad thing. Just because someone is a leader doesn't mean they lend the right kind of leadership or leadership that can get you to the next level. This was an evolution that needed to happen.

Agree!!  Change over is good in an organization that didn’t meet goals.

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Yes.

 

Next question.

47 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

It will be a test of McDermott. Great coaches do more with less


You mean like taking over a team, trading away and cutting players, and making the playoffs for the first time in 2 decades with Tyrod Taylor as your QB?

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I think the defense looked significantly worse when all the injuries hit this last season. I think this upcoming year will be a bit of a re-tool type season, with some youth on the defense filling starting roles, and young players on offense at the skill positions also taking on new roles with more touches/targets.

 

I would say the goal this year should be to win the division, and then anything beyond that is gravy. If everything goes perfectly we could win the Super Bowl (with Allen anything is possible).

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