Nephilim17 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 People were talking about Ed Oliver like he was a bust and he came on strong and now people are saying he's outperformed his 4-year $68 million second contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Not the best example, but when Ted Washington came to Buffalo after 4 years in the league, he played lights out! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) How about Marshawn Lynch?? Of course, his failures in Buffalo were more off the field....but I think that counts. Edited April 17 by Special K 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 32 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Not the best example, but when Ted Washington came to Buffalo after 4 years in the league, he played lights out! I think it’s as good as any. He played for 3 teams in 5 years. Didn’t start for the 49ers for several years. Eventually came to Buffalo after 5 years and turned into pro bowl player. He was a first round pick as well. Edited April 17 by Mikie2times 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 His early years were just before my time, but wouldn't OJ qualify? Statistically, his 1st 3 yrs he was very mediocre (I think he was hurt for one of them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Amad Rashad Good night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, eSJayDee said: His early years were just before my time, but wouldn't OJ qualify? Statistically, his 1st 3 yrs he was very mediocre (I think he was hurt for one of them). No, OJ attained success with same team. It was unfortunate that the brilliant John Rauch decided he would make him a pass receiving RB. OJ should say thank you to Lou Saban when he sees him up in…oh, wait a minute… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 hours ago, Rubes said: Was he really a failed first rounder? Not a complete bust but definitely a disappointing first rounder for the Bears. His best football has all been since leaving there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, Billy Claude said: Steve Young obviously. Not a new team but a new coach, Alex Smith was a bust until Jim Harbaugh. Geno Smith? How far into the 2nd round are you counting as the 1st round? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 10 hours ago, Virgil said: Drew Brees? 2nd rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Just wait. The Josh Rosen redemption era is about to hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86poker Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Marshawn Lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, Special K said: How about Marshawn Lynch?? Of course, his failures in Buffalo were more off the field....but I think that counts. Good one. I think he's about as good as any so far. Still, it's interesting how few and far between the examples are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) Elam isn't a failed first rounder. Most of the time when he plays, he plays pretty well. He has had some key INT's in big games for us at big times and in the endzone. Pittsburgh in the playoffs last year for example. For some reason, McD is unwilling to let him play and learn. Injuries have played a part in it, but I don't really understand how almost everytime he is pressed into duty(other than the Jags game where his ankle was basically unable to function properly) and he makes plays that you keep taking him out. He hasn't been given the opportunity really, and maybe he hasn't earned it in training camp or practice or preseason or whatever. But Goddamn, how many big plays does he have to make IN REAL LIVE GAMES THAT MATTER before you give him a chance? Does McD have some secret agenda where he simply dislikes him to the point he will only play him if forced to? Edited April 17 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 12 hours ago, Virgil said: Drew Brees? second round guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 You wait and see, big things are coming for Elam.......big things indeed. It won't be long before Elam's picture replaces JA's on the Wegmans grocery bags. I called it here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Elam isn't a failed first rounder. Most of the time when he plays, he plays pretty well. He has had some key INT's in big games for us at big times and in the endzone. Pittsburgh in the playoffs last year for example. For some reason, McD is unwilling to let him play and learn. Injuries have played a part in it, but I don't really understand how almost everytime he is pressed into duty(other than the Jags game where his ankle was basically unable to function properly) and he makes plays that you keep taking him out. He hasn't been given the opportunity really, and maybe he hasn't earned it in training camp or practice or preseason or whatever. But Goddamn, how many big plays does he have to make IN REAL LIVE GAMES THAT MATTER before you give him a chance? Does McD have some secret agenda where he simply dislikes him to the point he will only play him if forced to? They did hire a new coach for the corners (addae), and there is a new defensive coordinator in place (babich). Previous secondary coach John Butler was also the "passing game coordinator", and Elam's post-season comments seemed to indicate that they may have butted heads a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Ed Oliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Does Michael Vick's run with the Eagles count? Not really a bust with the Falcons, but did make a ProBowl with the Eagles, named comeback player of the year, and made the playoffs twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udubalum07 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: They did hire a new coach for the corners (addae), and there is a new defensive coordinator in place (babich). Previous secondary coach John Butler was also the "passing game coordinator", and Elam's post-season comments seemed to indicate that they may have butted heads a bit. What comments did Elam make after the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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