NFL draft rumors 2024

[Reed83HOF]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Yea this sucks.  BTJ is one of my favorites.  

 

Allbright had Josh Allen didn't he?  I think he was the only one who did 

Yes he did and I believe he was the o ly one. Albright is legit and this makes me sad 

[Warriorspikes51]

7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Yes he did and I believe he was the o ly one. Albright is legit and this makes me sad 

 

His route running appears very underrated to me.  He also does not shy away from contact and will at times fight for extra yards
 

he mentioned in an interview wanting to show teams his football IQ.

If he's smart, I'm sure the Bills have him as their WR4 or WR5  

another bonus as mentioned in the clip is his return ability with the new KR rules...

 

 

 

 

 

Let's assume the Bills either do a smallish trade up or stay put at 28 & take Xavier Worthy

My immediate hope would be we move way up in Round 2 for Xavier Legette

I'd sign up for that draft right now. 

Edited April 24 by Warriorspikes51

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

His route running appears very underrated to me.  He also does not shy away from contact and will at times fight for extra yards
 

he mentioned in an interview wanting to show teams his football IQ.

If he's smart, I'm sure the Bills have him as their WR4 or WR5  

Odunze or bust guy here...no way we get to the other 2 imo....

 

This was our biggest need before trading Diggs and not swinging here is a mistake imo. The money we saved from trading him allows us to spend more money in UFA next offseason to plug safety and even C/IOL. 

 

I don't see Beane risking a McDuffie situation and those are a lot of targets to replace. An $8 million FA WR and Shakir and Kincaid is not enough. IIRC, the bust rates in the top wrs is low, while the bust rate in rd1 wrs is well the next tier down and reaching for speed. 

 

When WRs get paid with a QB, those 2 players are a third of the cap. This is a can't afford to miss position. I'm just not sure we can convince a team to drop all the way down to 28....

 

This place will burn down if KC makes a huge move up and we muddle around...

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Odunze or bust guy here...no way we get to the other 2 imo....

 

This was our biggest need before trading Diggs and not swinging here is a mistake imo. The money we saved from trading him allows us to spend more money in UFA next offseason to plug safety and even C/IOL. 

 

I don't see Beane risking a McDuffie situation and those are a lot of targets to replace. An $8 million FA WR and Shakir and Kincaid is not enough. IIRC, the bust rates in the top wrs is low, while the bust rate in rd1 wrs is well the next tier down and reaching for speed. 

 

When WRs get paid with a QB, those 2 players are a third of the cap. This is a can't afford to miss position. I'm just not sure we can convince a team to drop all the way down to 28....

 

This place will burn down if KC makes a huge move up and we muddle around...

 

I like Worthy, but yes Odunze would be phenomenal.

I also think if we manage to keep pick 60, we could land Troy Franklin to go with Odunze.

[TheBeaneBandit]

10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

His route running appears very underrated to me.  He also does not shy away from contact and will at times fight for extra yards
 

he mentioned in an interview wanting to show teams his football IQ.

If he's smart, I'm sure the Bills have him as their WR4 or WR5  

another bonus as mentioned in the clip is his return ability with the new KR rules...

 

 

 

 

 

Let's assume the Bills either do a smallish trade up or stay put at 28 & take Xavier Worthy

My immediate hope would be we move way up in Round 2 for Xavier Legette

I'd sign up for that draft right now. 

That or imo they won't be able to get far enough up for Leggett.....but maybe Coleman. I nice 1b combo imo.😎

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

I like Worthy, but yes Odunze would be phenomenal.

I also think if we manage to keep pick 60, we could land Troy Franklin to go with Odunze.

No way any of Franklin, Leggett, or even Coleman to last anywhere near 60.

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Odunze or bust guy here...no way we get to the other 2 imo....

 

This was our biggest need before trading Diggs and not swinging here is a mistake imo. The money we saved from trading him allows us to spend more money in UFA next offseason to plug safety and even C/IOL. 

 

I don't see Beane risking a McDuffie situation and those are a lot of targets to replace. An $8 million FA WR and Shakir and Kincaid is not enough. IIRC, the bust rates in the top wrs is low, while the bust rate in rd1 wrs is well the next tier down and reaching for speed. 

 

When WRs get paid with a QB, those 2 players are a third of the cap. This is a can't afford to miss position. I'm just not sure we can convince a team to drop all the way down to 28....

 

This place will burn down if KC makes a huge move up and we muddle around...

Not seeing the logic ..

One of the Top 10 has to move down to 28 … for essentially 2025 picks .. why not just take Odunze instead themselves  if he is going to be such a difference maker? Or is he only a difference maker for the Bills?

 

 

[Reed83HOF]

53 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

I like Worthy, but yes Odunze would be phenomenal.

I also think if we manage to keep pick 60, we could land Troy Franklin to go with Odunze.

 

I'm conflicted this year because there is a lot of talent at WR in the draft. With Davis, I was fine a roll player WR replacement. I will admit that I was also hoping for a bigger move to eventually replace Diggs in 2 years, but I'm not sure I was willing to sell the farm for it. 

 

The Diggs move did change a lot on my perspective. I'm certainly for the we need to get younger, clean the cap up and re-tool. We couldn't run it back again because that iteration of our team was not good enough. The reality is we are entering Allen prime. I just can't see us taking a guy that will need a year or 2 to develop and honestly waste those 2 years. The WR room has 2 number 3s right now and Kincaid. That isn't enough and I'm not sold on not having a go to #1, it just opens up much more for an offense. 

 

The case and point for defense, I guess where I sit with that is load up on the secondary. I can almost never justify a first round pick on a safety, especially in our defensive system. I think you can find decent players in FA and the second round and lower. When it comes to a pass rushing end, how often does Mahomes get sacked in the post season? Or even pressured enough to make a mistake? It feels like having great cover guys may be the better option than trying to get him on the ground. 

 

The other point is, you have to score everytime you have the ball, you just do. It all leads me back to you have to do what you can to move up and get that guy who you can have 5 great years with allen. I hesitate for the trade for Aiuk since all of the cap space you would have for 5 years is gone (again). For Jefferson, I begrudgingly would do it...but I need to still win now and don't want to wait for the development time. If I move next year's 1, you bet I want it to be 28 or later. 

 

We have $10m in cap space coming back June 1 and can get a few other pieces to fill out the team. And next year use FA to further fill the holes. It just feels like this is the year to swing big again. 

 

I do wonder if Spencer Brown is a trade chip. One year left and we do like our back up Van Dermark, plus Collins makes me think he is a deal sweetener...

 

Feels like a tough place to be right now

[Dan in Owego]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

His route running appears very underrated to me.  He also does not shy away from contact and will at times fight for extra yards
 

he mentioned in an interview wanting to show teams his football IQ.

If he's smart, I'm sure the Bills have him as their WR4 or WR5  

another bonus as mentioned in the clip is his return ability with the new KR rules...

 

 

 

 

 

Let's assume the Bills either do a smallish trade up or stay put at 28 & take Xavier Worthy

My immediate hope would be we move way up in Round 2 for Xavier Legette

I'd sign up for that draft right now. 

I am sure to be in the minority, but i would take Franklin all day every day over worthy.

[Reed83HOF]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

Not seeing the logic ..

One of the Top 10 has to move down to 28 … for essentially 2025 picks .. why not just take Odunze instead themselves  if he is going to be such a difference maker? Or is he only a difference maker for the Bills?

 

 

Take the bears for instance they have 4 picks and tons of holes to fill, more picks to flesh out their roster and to actually get some talent in the building. The titans are under going a full rebuild and need drafts picks to well rebuild. Those are 2 top 10 teams that could use as many picks as possible. You could through NYG in as well, they have 6 picks. 

 

Could all those teams use a wr, yeah, but they value OL, QB even more. The Bears can also easily grab a wr at the top of rd 2...

 

the giants will trade for Aiuk imo if they get a QB...

 

More realistic is getting your teams in the teens to slide back...

 

Odunze is easier to grab than Nabers or MHJr. I just can't see us getting to 4 or even 5 with the chargers. I do think the jets will try to move to the Chargers to get a WR (even though the should be looking at OL).

 

I do think Spencer Brown could be a player included, last year of his deal (are we really going to pay 2 tackles?) We love Van Dermark and signed Collins. Is that enough to get someone to bite? Late first is also good CB territory as well. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said:

I am sure to be in the minority, but i would take Franklin all day every day over worthy.

Not sure about that.

 

 

[Dr. Who]

28 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

I'm conflicted this year because there is a lot of talent at WR in the draft. With Davis, I was fine a roll player WR replacement. I will admit that I was also hoping for a bigger move to eventually replace Diggs in 2 years, but I'm not sure I was willing to sell the farm for it. 

 

The Diggs move did change a lot on my perspective. I'm certainly for the we need to get younger, clean the cap up and re-tool. We couldn't run it back again because that iteration of our team was not good enough. The reality is we are entering Allen prime. I just can't see us taking a guy that will need a year or 2 to develop and honestly waste those 2 years. The WR room has 2 number 3s right now and Kincaid. That isn't enough and I'm not sold on not having a go to #1, it just opens up much more for an offense. 

 

The case and point for defense, I guess where I sit with that is load up on the secondary. I can almost never justify a first round pick on a safety, especially in our defensive system. I think you can find decent players in FA and the second round and lower. When it comes to a pass rushing end, how often does Mahomes get sacked in the post season? Or even pressured enough to make a mistake? It feels like having great cover guys may be the better option than trying to get him on the ground. 

 

The other point is, you have to score everytime you have the ball, you just do. It all leads me back to you have to do what you can to move up and get that guy who you can have 5 great years with allen. I hesitate for the trade for Aiuk since all of the cap space you would have for 5 years is gone (again). For Jefferson, I begrudgingly would do it...but I need to still win now and don't want to wait for the development time. If I move next year's 1, you bet I want it to be 28 or later. 

 

We have $10m in cap space coming back June 1 and can get a few other pieces to fill out the team. And next year use FA to further fill the holes. It just feels like this is the year to swing big again. 

 

I do wonder if Spencer Brown is a trade chip. One year left and we do like our back up Van Dermark, plus Collins makes me think he is a deal sweetener...

 

Feels like a tough place to be right now

Van Demark has played well at LT in the pre-season, so maybe there's some hope there, but I don't think he's shown well in limited time at RT, actually. Collins is pretty washed and a backup at best. Using Brown in a trade up means you are losing two starters from the best Oline the Bills have had in years, and it was only pretty good. In short, I think that is a pretty awful move to use Brown as a chip to move up.

 

Beane put himself in this position by trading Diggs, but before that, by not investing sufficiently at WR. I think it will be hard to get any of the top 3, and expensive to get the fourth. The WR room has to be addressed, though, so I guess we'll see how much of a wizard our GM really is.

Edited April 25 by Dr. Who

[BillsVet]

All this subterfuge about Thomas fed to sports media types talking to team executives.  I can't believe people don't know how this works after years of these late reports/issues for a particular player.  

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

Van Demark has played well at LT in the pre-season, so maybe there's some hope there, but I don't think he's shown well in limited time at RT, actually. Collins is pretty washed and a backup at best. Using Brown in a trade up means you are losing two starters from the best Oline the Bills have had in years, and it was only pretty good. In short, I think that is a pretty awful move to use Brown as a chip to move up.

 

Beane put himself in this position by trading Diggs, but before that, by not investing sufficient at WR. I think it will be hard to get any of the top 3, and expensive to get the fourth. The WR room has to be addressed, though, so I guess we'll see how much of a wizard our GM really is.

 

Don't disagree with any of this, just trying to think of can a player be used a trade bait with what we realistically have that has some degree of value (not Elam). 

 

Where i get to is we have been close but not close enough to beating KC and now is one of the times to swing big to make our offense that much better and harder to defend. We have Josh allen and we will almost always be picking in the late 20s, on a serious note what does next year's 26 through 32 pick do for us? This is the year to go big imo and how do we sweeten it enough?

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[Aussie Joe]

BTJ falling … 

 

Beane putting out that busted shoulder rumour paying off

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

I don’t think Jets go WR. I see Bowers going there, though, they don’t really have a TE weapon. 

[CaptnCoke11]

I’m on the Worthy train.  

[Thrivefourfive]

Just want to say, regardless of Diggs being here or not, the Bills still need to draft a top WR. It’s been said the past two drafts. We all knew Diggs was going to blow up or decline. Davis was on a white hot seat after 2022, and we knew the WR1B was supposed to get drafted and replace Diggs. Honestly don’t think Diggs trade changes anything regarding drafting a top WR now. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Thrivefourfive said:

Just want to say, regardless of Diggs being here or not, the Bills still need to draft a top WR. It’s been said the past two drafts. We all knew Diggs was going to blow up or decline. Davis was on a white hot seat after 2022, and we knew the WR1B was supposed to get drafted and replace Diggs. Honestly don’t think Diggs trade changes anything regarding drafting a top WR now. 

I’m not really sure what the Bills were thinking last draft process. They must not have had any thought that Davis and Diggs would be gone by 2024.

[TOboy]

11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Here’s hoping DJ got our pick right! 

[Thrivefourfive]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m not really sure what the Bills were thinking last draft process. They must not have had any thought that Davis and Diggs would be gone by 2024.

Absolutely. They didn’t do anything about it, so they went “all in” in Diggs and Davis’s last year..? That’s not sound. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Absolutely. They didn’t do anything about it, so they went “all in” in Diggs and Davis’s last year..? That’s not sound. 

I love Kincaid but they could’ve easily got Addison. I had to listen to someone on WGR the other day say they really wanted him. 
 

I mean? Ok. He was only a few picks away. Let me say this, I think Addison, Flowers, and JSN would be the 4th WR this year.

[Dr. Who]

19 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Don't disagree with any of this, just trying to think of can a player be used a trade bait with what we realistically have that has some degree of value (not Elam). 

 

Where i get to is we have been close but not close enough to beating KC and now is one of the times to swing big to make our offense that much better and harder to defend. We have Josh allen and we will almost always be picking in the late 20s, on a serious note what does next year's 26 through 32 pick do for us? This is the year to go big imo and how do we sweeten it enough?

I surely do not want to weaken the Oline to move up. I don't really think there is an expendable roster player with the kind of value you are looking for. To get one of the big 3, you are significantly raiding 2025 picks and probably trading 28 and 60. I'd be excited to get one of them, but that price is too high, imo. If Thomas falls a bit, there might be a deal to be made there, though he's definitely a tier below.

 

I think they need 2 WRs, either through the draft or the draft and a trade for a veteran. I'd prefer to draft around 28 and use a 2025 second to move up from 60 for another receiver. That would be my plan, but there are multiple feasible options. At this point, it's close enough that I am ready for the speculation to end and see what Beane can figure out. I don't think he will be passive. If I had to bet, I'd say he moves up, but at this point it's unclear how far. I don't really see anyone wanting to trade back out of the top ten to 28. Beane might have to move up into the teens, and then move up again from there if a top 3 WR is his target. Going to be pricey as hell if that's what happens.

[Brandon]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I love Kincaid but they could’ve easily got Addison. I had to listen to someone on WGR the other day say they really wanted him. 
 

I mean? Ok. He was only a few picks away. Let me say this, I think Addison, Flowers, and JSN would be the 4th WR this year.

 

There were a lot of rumors last year regarding the Bills interest in Addison,  in particular,  but all three were top 30 visits.  

[Thrivefourfive]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I love Kincaid but they could’ve easily got Addison. I had to listen to someone on WGR the other day say they really wanted him. 
 

I mean? Ok. He was only a few picks away. Let me say this, I think Addison, Flowers, and JSN would be the 4th WR this year.

They didn’t want in on the WR run. Beane knew it was coming, and when. He got up for Kincaid. That’s a strategy that can and should be scrutinized. 
 

I don’t know, Addison is still small to me. Flowers is gadgety but reliable (will we ever really know with Jackson throwing to him??). JSN, to me, is nothing special. Maybe a top ten calling sometime in his career.. for a short time of a year or two.

 

I feel like Worthy is more of a pick than any of those three, and McConkey and Legette could also be better than those three. BTJ should be much better than the 2023 class. Just my brainless survey. 

If Beane goes WR/WR in rounds 1 & 2, this board will self combust. 

[The All-Pro-Knox Gallery]

MHJ will be a Bill

[Dr. Who]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m not really sure what the Bills were thinking last draft process. They must not have had any thought that Davis and Diggs would be gone by 2024.

It was a very poor WR draft. Kincaid was an excellent pick. I don't think they expected Diggs to be gone by 2024, his cap hit implies that. I do think they were ready to move on from Davis. Losing both, however, makes WR a gaping hole, massive imperative. The folks who emphasize D can dismiss that all they want. Beane knows it, but he's going to need some good fortune to pull a rabbit (or two) out of this hat.

[Estro]

2 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

That or imo they won't be able to get far enough up for Leggett.....but maybe Coleman. I nice 1b combo imo.😎

No way any of Franklin, Leggett, or even Coleman to last anywhere near 60.

I predict Franklin is on the board at #60. I don't think he's going as high as a lot of people think. 

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Estro said:

I predict Franklin is on the board at #60. I don't think he's going as high as a lot of people think. 

He's certainly one of the more polarizing players in the draft. I can't remember who, but someone's board has him #76 or something like that. Then there are fellas here who aren't dim who think he's the fourth best WR. I do think there's a chance he falls. I'm not so high on him, so that's part of my own bias.

[TOboy]

For what it’s worth (probably little) Charles Davis has us taking BTJ at 28. 
 

Talking heads at the NFL Network suddenly thinking he falls to us. Perhaps they are victims to the torn labrum smoke screen, or perhaps he’s not as high on other teams wish lists as we believed all along? 
 

Regardless, I’d be thrilled by that out come. 

[Warriorspikes51]

57 minutes ago, The All-Pro-Knox Gallery said:

MHJ will be a Bill

they’re laughing now…but you’ll be the hero tomorrow at 8:45

[cbatl32]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

they’re laughing now…but you’ll be the hero tomorrow at 8:45

There is zero percent chance we get MHJ. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see any chance this happens

[Warriorspikes51]

40 minutes ago, TOboy said:

For what it’s worth (probably little) Charles Davis has us taking BTJ at 28. 
 

Talking heads at the NFL Network suddenly thinking he falls to us. Perhaps they are victims to the torn labrum smoke screen, or perhaps he’s not as high on other teams wish lists as we believed all along? 
 

Regardless, I’d be thrilled by that out come. 

what if he has to have shoulder surgery and misses the whole season?

[DapperCam]

3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Not seeing the logic ..

One of the Top 10 has to move down to 28 … for essentially 2025 picks .. why not just take Odunze instead themselves  if he is going to be such a difference maker? Or is he only a difference maker for the Bills?

 

 

If a top 10 drafting team already has their QB on a rookie contract, it might make sense to pay a veteran WR (because they can afford it) rather than roll the dice on a rookie. Kind of like how we initial did with Diggs.

It's the teams who have QBs on a franchise QB contract that really need WRs on rookie deals.

[Warriorspikes51]

3 minutes ago, cbatl32 said:

There is zero percent chance we get MHJ. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see any chance this happens

Beane would need to get into the teens before Arizona is on the clock or make a 3 way deal that gets AZ to only drop down 12-15 spots

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

what if he has to have shoulder surgery and misses the whole season?

That would be bad.

[TOboy]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

what if he has to have shoulder surgery and misses the whole season?

Supposedly it would just be “something they have to manage in 2024” then offseason surgery to repair. 

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, TOboy said:

Supposedly it would just be “something they have to manage in 2024” then offseason surgery to repair. 

If that is true, and it causes him to drop to 28, I'd take that risk.

[Reed83HOF]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I love Kincaid but they could’ve easily got Addison. I had to listen to someone on WGR the other day say they really wanted him. 
 

I mean? Ok. He was only a few picks away. Let me say this, I think Addison, Flowers, and JSN would be the 4th WR this year.

This is one of the reasons why i feel like Beane will make a bigger move if he can - the not moving up much for Addison (they may have had Kincaid rated higher though) and the Elam pick - being patient cost us McDuffie and let KC jump us. I'm just hoping we have someone who is willing to move

1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

I surely do not want to weaken the Oline to move up. I don't really think there is an expendable roster player with the kind of value you are looking for. To get one of the big 3, you are significantly raiding 2025 picks and probably trading 28 and 60. I'd be excited to get one of them, but that price is too high, imo. If Thomas falls a bit, there might be a deal to be made there, though he's definitely a tier below.

 

I think they need 2 WRs, either through the draft or the draft and a trade for a veteran. I'd prefer to draft around 28 and use a 2025 second to move up from 60 for another receiver. That would be my plan, but there are multiple feasible options. At this point, it's close enough that I am ready for the speculation to end and see what Beane can figure out. I don't think he will be passive. If I had to bet, I'd say he moves up, but at this point it's unclear how far. I don't really see anyone wanting to trade back out of the top ten to 28. Beane might have to move up into the teens, and then move up again from there if a top 3 WR is his target. Going to be pricey as hell if that's what happens.

They are really high on Van Dermark, I'm not sure we will pay 2 tackles either as it is Brown's last year on his rookie contract...That is the only reason I am going there. There luterally is no one else on this team we can toss in. Elam is about as worthless as Zack Wilson

 

 

[Brandon]

28 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

what if he has to have shoulder surgery and misses the whole season?

 

Well,  then they're screwed. 

 

With the WR depth chart being what it is,  whomever they select damn well better be able to produce at least at a halfway decent level this year.