NFL draft rumors 2024

[Warriorspikes51]

Bills Trying To Move Up Per Ben Allbright

 

 

 

 

I’m guessing this means we’ve at least called Denver at 12

Edited April 24 by Warriorspikes51

[HappyDays]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Bills aiming higher than Denver?!

[HappyDays]

23 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

smoke screen? Haha

 

Xavier & Xavier would be fun

 

I still am not 100% sure if ECB always gets real info or not, but I have seen enough from him to give some credence to his info. If this report is true, it is very interesting.

 

The day before the 2022 draft it was reported by someone who worked for I think The Draft Network that we had brought Elam in on a top 30 visit earlier that week. This was not a widely publicized visit, it was kept under wraps except for that one writer that got the scoop.

 

Last year after the draft Beane revealed that they had met virtually with Kincaid a couple times earlier in the week because they had zeroed in on him as a possible target. This was never reported by anybody.

 

So this tweet from ECB is the kind of report I have been looking out for - a last minute report with information that isn't widely publicized that says we are doing work on a prospect the week of the draft. There might be something to this.

 

In the 1st round Beane loves prospects with elite physical traits that interview well and have a good personality. Worthy fits the profile.

[Yantha]

Keep an eye on the BEARS.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but they have the FEWEST picks in the draft and have two first rounders.  I could see the Bears trade out of #9.

 

Interestingly I just mocked the Bears and a trade offer was offered to me from....  THE BILLS.

 

The offer was:

Bills get:  #9

Bears get:  #28, #60, #204 AND both 2025 2nd rounders.....

 

I accepted and the Bills autodraft was:

#6:  WR Rome Odunze, Washington

#128:  WR Malik Washington, Virginia

#133:  DT McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M

#144:  RB Jaylen Wright, Tennessee

#160:  WR Jalen Coker, Holy Cross (yes a third wideout....)

#162:  S Kitan Oladpo, Oregon State

#200:  DT Fabien Lovett, Florida State

#248:  WR Ryan Flournoy, Missouri State (......aaaaand a forth wideout)...

 

So.. save for the excessive WR picks, how would you feel about dropping THREE picks this year plus both 2nd rounders next year to land ROME ODUNZE at #9?

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Yantha said:

Keep an eye on the BEARS.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but they have the FEWEST picks in the draft and have two first rounders.  I could see the Bears trade out of #9.

 

Interestingly I just mocked the Bears and a trade offer was offered to me from....  THE BILLS.

 

The offer was:

Bills get:  #9

Bears get:  #28, #60, #204 AND both 2025 2nd rounders.....

 

I accepted and the Bills autodraft was:

#6:  WR Rome Odunze, Washington

#128:  WR Malik Washington, Virginia

#133:  DT McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M

#144:  RB Jaylen Wright, Tennessee

#160:  WR Jalen Coker, Holy Cross (yes a third wideout....)

#162:  S Kitan Oladpo, Oregon State

#200:  DT Fabien Lovett, Florida State

#248:  WR Ryan Flournoy, Missouri State (......aaaaand a forth wideout)...

 

So.. save for the excessive WR picks, how would you feel about dropping THREE picks this year plus both 2nd rounders next year to land ROME ODUNZE at #9?

Sign me up, but the cost may be

 

28, 128, 160, 2025 1st, 2nd 

[Aussie Joe]

I think all of the Bills trade up/ down/ trade for an established player scenarios have been suggested by now … so one of the Twitter “experts” is going to be correct …

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

Sign me up, but the cost may be

 

28, 128, 160, 2025 1st, 2nd 

Geez man … you don’t want to give up that 60… 😂

 

The Bears need picks this year to help out their rookie QB… 

[Warriorspikes51]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I still am not 100% sure if ECB always gets real info or not, but I have seen enough from him to give some credence to his info. If this report is true, it is very interesting.

 

The day before the 2022 draft it was reported by someone who worked for I think The Draft Network that we had brought Elam in on a top 30 visit earlier that week. This was not a widely publicized visit, it was kept under wraps except for that one writer that got the scoop.

 

Last year after the draft Beane revealed that they had met virtually with Kincaid a couple times earlier in the week because they had zeroed in on him as a possible target. This was never reported by anybody.

 

So this tweet from ECB is the kind of report I have been looking out for - a last minute report with information that isn't widely publicized that says we are doing work on a prospect the week of the draft. There might be something to this.

 

In the 1st round Beane loves prospects with elite physical traits that interview well and have a good personality. Worthy fits the profile.

great info there!  Interestingly, the other Xavier having a private visit with us was news also put out today….which I hadn’t heard previously

 

Legette would match the elite physical traits as well & has overcome more than many to get to where he is at

[Goin Breakdown]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I still am not 100% sure if ECB always gets real info or not, but I have seen enough from him to give some credence to his info. If this report is true, it is very interesting.

 

The day before the 2022 draft it was reported by someone who worked for I think The Draft Network that we had brought Elam in on a top 30 visit earlier that week. This was not a widely publicized visit, it was kept under wraps except for that one writer that got the scoop.

 

Last year after the draft Beane revealed that they had met virtually with Kincaid a couple times earlier in the week because they had zeroed in on him as a possible target. This was never reported by anybody.

 

So this tweet from ECB is the kind of report I have been looking out for - a last minute report with information that isn't widely publicized that says we are doing work on a prospect the week of the draft. There might be something to this.

 

In the 1st round Beane loves prospects with elite physical traits that interview well and have a good personality. Worthy fits the profile.

I can't with this guy. Him and all his Dhop is a Bill crap last year

[Warriorspikes51]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

I think all of the Bills trade up/ down/ trade for an established player scenarios have been suggested by now … so one of the Twitter “experts” is going to be correct …

Geez man … you don’t want to give up that 60… 😂

 

The Bears need picks this year to help out their rookie QB… 

Too bad for the Bears!! Hahahaha

Just now, Goin Breakdown said:

I can't with this guy. Him and all his Dhop is a Bill crap last year

fair enough. Rumors thread so figured I’d post

[Coach Tuesday]

11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I still am not 100% sure if ECB always gets real info or not, but I have seen enough from him to give some credence to his info. If this report is true, it is very interesting.

 

The day before the 2022 draft it was reported by someone who worked for I think The Draft Network that we had brought Elam in on a top 30 visit earlier that week. This was not a widely publicized visit, it was kept under wraps except for that one writer that got the scoop.

 

Last year after the draft Beane revealed that they had met virtually with Kincaid a couple times earlier in the week because they had zeroed in on him as a possible target. This was never reported by anybody.

 

So this tweet from ECB is the kind of report I have been looking out for - a last minute report with information that isn't widely publicized that says we are doing work on a prospect the week of the draft. There might be something to this.

 

In the 1st round Beane loves prospects with elite physical traits that interview well and have a good personality. Worthy fits the profile.

A trade up for Worthy - and taking him before Thomas is even off the board - is very possibly the surprise Beane move we’re all talking about Friday morning.

[MikePJ76]

man if they give up a bunch of picks for thomas I do not view that as good management.  

 

If 60 is in the deal and they don't pick again until the 4th round then Thomas better be among the leagues best wr in a year or two.

 

Feels like there are a number of Ol and Corners who are better overall players than thomas.  

 

thursday can not get here fast enough.

[Aussie Joe]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Too bad for the Bears!! Hahahaha

fair enough. Rumors

No doubt the Bills are gunna use that 60 to trade up and get Legette .. so that’s why you gotta hang onto at all costs..

 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

A trade up for Worthy - and taking him before Thomas is even off the board - is very possibly the surprise Beane move we’re all talking about Friday morning.

with the supposed shoulder issues of Nabers and Thomas, will they drop more than expected?  Or is it fake news from Joe Brady hoping to re-create his time with Chase and Jefferson haha

[Dr. Who]

15 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I still am not 100% sure if ECB always gets real info or not, but I have seen enough from him to give some credence to his info. If this report is true, it is very interesting.

 

The day before the 2022 draft it was reported by someone who worked for I think The Draft Network that we had brought Elam in on a top 30 visit earlier that week. This was not a widely publicized visit, it was kept under wraps except for that one writer that got the scoop.

 

Last year after the draft Beane revealed that they had met virtually with Kincaid a couple times earlier in the week because they had zeroed in on him as a possible target. This was never reported by anybody.

 

So this tweet from ECB is the kind of report I have been looking out for - a last minute report with information that isn't widely publicized that says we are doing work on a prospect the week of the draft. There might be something to this.

 

In the 1st round Beane loves prospects with elite physical traits that interview well and have a good personality. Worthy fits the profile.

 

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

No doubt the Bills are gunna use that 60 to trade up and get Legette .. so that’s why you gotta hang onto at all costs..

 

I haven't been a fan of the fast feather, but if they end up with both Xaviers, that could be a nice combo.

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

 

I haven't been a fan of the fast feather, but if they end up with both Xaviers, that could be a nice combo.

What about Odunze and Legette ?

 

Warrior Spikes splooging everywhere until he remembers that they got no picks next year and his Feb- Apr 2025 is going to be very boring …

[Dr. Who]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

What about Odunze and Legette ?

 

Warrior Spikes splooging everywhere until he remembers that they got no picks next year and his Feb- Apr 2025 is going to be very boring …

Assuming you can keep a semblance of a draft in 2025 and grab Odunze, I would do it. I like Legette and McConkey. If I have Odunze, I'd rather add McConkey, but no one should argue with any one or combination of them. That would be a home run draft for the WR room.

 

WarriorSpikes is a master story-teller. He'll find a way to create a plausible scenario for 2025, regardless. Like Rumplestiltskin, he's adept at taking straw and spinning it into gold. Whether that turns out true or maybe pyrite is another matter.

Edited April 24 by Dr. Who

[Einstein's Dog]

12 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I can't with this guy. Him and all his Dhop is a Bill crap last year

I have picked up the mantel this year. 

 

Give me DHop and X Worthy.  The Bills WR room would then be an on-paper year over year improvement IMO.

[Aussie Joe]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Assuming you can keep a semblance of a draft in 2025 and grab Odunze, I would do it. I like Legette and McConkey. If I have Odunze, I'd rather add McConkey, but no one should argue with any one or combination of them. That would be a home run draft for the WR room.

Ok…so  taking this to the full conclusion … would you do this if they gave up all their Day 1-2 picks next year ? So they would have a 4th , 6th and 7th … and a couple of comp picks ..

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I have picked up the mantel this year. 

 

Give me DHop and X Worthy.  The Bills WR room would then be an on-paper year over year improvement IMO.

That works, too.

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Ok…so  taking this to the full conclusion … would you do this if they gave up all their Day 1-2 picks next year ? So they would have a 4th , 6th and 7th … and a couple of comp picks ..

No, for me that does not equate to a semblance of a draft in 2025.

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I have picked up the mantel this year. 

 

Give me DHop and X Worthy.  The Bills WR room would then be an on-paper year over year improvement IMO.

 

how about Worthy + acquiring JJ / DK / Aiyuk

 

Allen A-Bomb Offense   Letsgo 

 

[RyanC883]

17 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

 

I haven't been a fan of the fast feather, but if they end up with both Xaviers, that could be a nice combo.

 

both Xaviers is fine, one alone is insufficient. 

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

both Xaviers is fine, one alone is insufficient. 

I've been arguing for McConkey and Legette, but either way, or some other combination (draft or draft + trade), I believe Beane has to bring in a dynamic Z and a big X.

[HappyDays]

29 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

A trade up for Worthy - and taking him before Thomas is even off the board - is very possibly the surprise Beane move we’re all talking about Friday morning.

 

If we do this, I hope we trade up again in the 2nd for Coleman or Legette or Polk. Pair the speedy small WR with the big bodied contested catch specialist. I don't care if it means we have barely any picks on day three and have to give up one of our 2nds next year. Get two physical studs that win in different ways and put them on the field with Josh Allen for the next 5+ years, and the rest will figure itself out.

[Turbo44]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If we do this, I hope we trade up again in the 2nd for Coleman or Legette or Polk. Pair the speedy small WR with the big bodied contested catch specialist. I don't care if it means we have barely any picks on day three and have to give up one of our 2nds next year. Get two physical studs that win in different ways and put them on the field with Josh Allen for the next 5+ years, and the rest will figure itself out.

 The more I’ve studied it the more I think we’re talking worthy at #28 or maybe even with a small trade up and Baker at #60

[Einstein's Dog]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

how about Worthy + acquiring JJ / DK / Aiyuk

 

Allen A-Bomb Offense   Letsgo 

 

I can't dream that big because I can't figure out a way to come up with the draft capital and money.  

 

But I have come up with a path for DHop. Tenn could be tempted to grab Rome at #7 (which is unrealistically high for the Bills to get to).  This would make DHop and his paltry $13M salary expendable (if he isn't already). Tenn just spent big bucks on Ridley and drafted a 1st round WR last year.

 

I love the idea of pairing DHop with the speedster X Worthy.  But I think to get Worthy the Bills may have to do Beane's usual small move up.  Maybe not even that small - they may have to move ahead of Miami.

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I can't dream that big because I can't figure out a way to come up with the draft capital and money.  

 

But I have come up with a path for DHop. Tenn could be tempted to grab Rome at #7 (which is unrealistically high for the Bills to get to).  This would make DHop and his paltry $13M salary expendable (if he isn't already). Tenn just spent big bucks on Ridley and drafted a 1st round WR last year.

 

I love the idea of pairing DHop with the speedster X Worthy.  But I think to get Worthy the Bills may have to do Beane's usual small move up.  Maybe not even that small - they may have to move ahead of Miami.

 

Good point on Miami  

[Turbo44]

3 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I can't dream that big because I can't figure out a way to come up with the draft capital and money.  

 

But I have come up with a path for DHop. Tenn could be tempted to grab Rome at #7 (which is unrealistically high for the Bills to get to).  This would make DHop and his paltry $13M salary expendable (if he isn't already). Tenn just spent big bucks on Ridley and drafted a 1st round WR last year.

 

I love the idea of pairing DHop with the speedster X Worthy.  But I think to get Worthy the Bills may have to do Beane's usual small move up.  Maybe not even that small - they may have to move ahead of Miami.

I think you could be correct on all accounts. Miami loves speed, and if Worthy is your guy, you move ahead of worthy. Worthy is too skinny, but otherwise isn’t a one-trick pony - he has solid college production and tracks the long ball very well. His senior year was a bit of a letdown though 

Edited April 24 by Turbo44

[Beck Water]

Thought this was interesting - a scorecard for who has been the most and least accurate with the rumors

 

https://walterfootball.com/draft2023rumorsresults.php

 

Spoiler: that Charlie Campbell guy is pretty good

[HappyDays]

31 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

But I think to get Worthy the Bills may have to do Beane's usual small move up.  Maybe not even that small - they may have to move ahead of Miami.

 

Getting in front of Miami is too rich for my blood. If they take Worthy I think it's a colossal mistake on their part and I would be inclined to just let them make that mistake and accept a different player for the Bills. I think if anything you have to get in front of Dallas at #24 and steal their player for a second year in a row. Currently Minnesota has the #23 pick. Good chance they trade it away in a big move up though.

 

To get from #28 to #23, one move that lines up with the draft value chart would be giving up our 2025 2nd from the Diggs trade and getting back a 2024 4th to balance the scales.

 

In that scenario we would still have plenty of day three ammo to move up in the 2nd round if we wanted and probably enough to get into the bottom of the 3rd round too.

 

Come away with something like:

-Worthy at #23

-Legette/Coleman/Polk at #53(ish)

-Pick #100(ish)

-5 day three picks

 

Edited April 24 by HappyDays

[MikePJ76]

sal mocked worthy to buffalo at 28

 

https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/capaccio-nfl-2024-mock-draft

[gonzo1105]

10 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

sal mocked worthy to buffalo at 28

 

https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/capaccio-nfl-2024-mock-draft

It’s either BTJ, Worthy or trade down imo if they don’t go way up 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

If we do this, I hope we trade up again in the 2nd for Coleman or Legette or Polk. Pair the speedy small WR with the big bodied contested catch specialist. I don't care if it means we have barely any picks on day three and have to give up one of our 2nds next year. Get two physical studs that win in different ways and put them on the field with Josh Allen for the next 5+ years, and the rest will figure itself out.

 

Sadly, if we move up for any WR in the first there is very little chance...I would say almost no chance...we take another WR in the 2nd.  We have some many other positions we need to address and we don't have a 3rd plus we will be without whatever other picks we included to move up in the first.  

 

If we stay at 28 and take Worthy, then maybe they would go WR in 2nd too (and I would be pounding the table hard for Polk if we were to take a WR in the 2nd), but still without a 3rd and badly needing to address a couple other areas, I just highly doubt we go WR - WR even without trading up in rounds one and 2.  

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I can't dream that big because I can't figure out a way to come up with the draft capital and money.  

 

But I have come up with a path for DHop. Tenn could be tempted to grab Rome at #7 (which is unrealistically high for the Bills to get to).  This would make DHop and his paltry $13M salary expendable (if he isn't already). Tenn just spent big bucks on Ridley and drafted a 1st round WR last year.

 

I love the idea of pairing DHop with the speedster X Worthy.  But I think to get Worthy the Bills may have to do Beane's usual small move up.  Maybe not even that small - they may have to move ahead of Miami.

 

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Good point on Miami  

 

As I said before...I HOPE Miami takes Worthy, would be one of the worst moves they could make and I would love every second of it.  I assure you it will result in the firing of the whole regime a year from now.  With a better roster than they have now, and the fastest roster in the NFL the past 2 seasons they have only beaten 2 teams who had a winning record, blew a 4 game lead in the division with like 5 games to go, and haven't won a playoff game.  

 

Their trenches are a total mess now and there will be great prospects on both sides of the trenches at 21.  Taking a guy who is going to be WR3 and maybe get 30-40 receptions this year (unless injuries give him more opportunities) is not changing anything for them.  

 

As it is, they are staring down the barrel of missing the playoffs (which they barely made last year) this year.  Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Texans, Bengals are all there...then you got Jets, Jags, Steelers, Browns, Colts, and maybe Chargers who will also all likely at least make some playoff noise if not flat out make the playoffs.  

 

Nothing will be funnier to me than seeing Miami take Worthy and McDoofus show he has no idea how to build a football team outside of Madden.  

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

If we do this, I hope we trade up again in the 2nd for Coleman or Legette or Polk. Pair the speedy small WR with the big bodied contested catch specialist. I don't care if it means we have barely any picks on day three and have to give up one of our 2nds next year. Get two physical studs that win in different ways and put them on the field with Josh Allen for the next 5+ years, and the rest will figure itself out.

Ya, I liked Coleman from the jump. Polk as we well and Legette is also coming on in my mind. Not a big fan of Worthy though. Hollywood Brown seems to be his comp. Brown isn't a bad player but I'm hopeful we can get more out of this pick especially if we trade up.

[Alphadawg7]

22 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

It’s either BTJ, Worthy or trade down imo if they don’t go way up 

 

Only way I can see them go way up is if Odunze/Nabers gets to at least 12.  And there are paths for that to happen.  

 

I think BTJ is very likely a target and one they would go up and get.  I hope we don't move up for Worthy though.  If we take Worthy at 28, fine, but I am not a fan of moving up for someone who has real question marks if his light frame can hold up to a WR1 role for 17 games and playoffs.  Will he even be able to get off the line in snow/bad weather games in Buffalo when the game gets more physical and slower?  LOVE the idea of his speed, but I fear his best traits are vulnerable to what comes with playing in Buffalo.  

[billieve420]

Fanduel has BTJ draft position over 19.5 at -172. Trade with Pitt could make sense if Buffalo is interested and he is available at that spot. 

 

Both Worthy over 31.5 and Legette over 33.5 slight favorites to go end of round 1/early round 2.

[DJB]

8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

smoke screen? Haha

 

Xavier & Xavier would be fun

This account has 2K followers and doesn’t seem connected to the NFL in any which way. 
 

 

[SectionC3]

7 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

If we do this, I hope we trade up again in the 2nd for Coleman or Legette or Polk. Pair the speedy small WR with the big bodied contested catch specialist. I don't care if it means we have barely any picks on day three and have to give up one of our 2nds next year. Get two physical studs that win in different ways and put them on the field with Josh Allen for the next 5+ years, and the rest will figure itself out.

 

I'm good with this idea, particularly with how defenses are likely to play us next year. 

 

I'll also add that Beane seems to be a "go big or go home" guy, and he understands that sometimes paying a little more gets the buyer a lot more.  I keep on getting back to the idea that he's going to use that Minnesota pick next year to package up and get a big fish, be it Odunze, Nabers, or maybe a known quantity . . . like, say, Metcalf or Jefferson. 

[Back2Buff]

There ain't WR I want less than Worthy.

 

He's more effective from the slot.  Really only effective on outside less than 25% of time.  I have never seen a WR struggle so much with understanding where he is in reference to the sideline.  He is constantly stepping out.  Don't even get me started on his hands, they are worse than Gabe's.  Constantly dropping balls and has weak hands, meaning if a defender makes any contact on ball, he aint catching it.

 

Xavier Legette tape is way more impressive than Worthy.  There were multiple times this year where Worthy was even caught from behind, where Legette would take off.  

 

Say no to Worthy.  I dont know how anyone could watch the tape last year and think this guy is a 1st round pick.