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13 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

I'm also very okay with McConkey as well. Its funny because we were in lockstep last year on Kincaid too when the vast majority was against that as well.

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13 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I am on the McConkey train.

Yeah, you were one of the first around here!

 

i was not initially, but after the Diggs trade, he’s one of a handful of guys I’d be happy with at 28.

 

Legette

Mitchell

Mcconkey

Worthy (don’t love him, but the elite speed could be worth rolling the dice on if he’s available).

Polk-  that’s my dude and he’s the best run blocker in the class.  

 

Franklin in a trade back.
Pearsall in a bigger trade back

Coleman in a…..ugh. Idk about Coleman, but he’s intriguing 

 

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5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah, you were one of the first around here!

 

i was not initially, but after the Diggs trade, he’s one of a handful of guys I’d be happy with at 28.

 

Legette

Mitchell

Mcconkey

Worthy (don’t love him, but the elite speed could be worth rolling the dice on if he’s available).

Polk-  that’s my dude and he’s the best run blocker in the class.  

 

Franklin in a trade back.
Pearsall in a bigger trade back

Coleman in a…..ugh. Idk about Coleman, but he’s intriguing 

 

I would be fine with any of the guys listed.

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For those of us liking McConkey (among a couple other wideouts), I liked this 7 round draft with no trades.  I would be very, very happy with this.  Think these players would be available where I drafted them?  

 

28

Ladd McConkey

WR | Georgia

A

 

60

Tyler Nubin

S | Minnesota

A+

 

128

Brenden Rice

WR | USC

B+

 

133

DeWayne Carter

DL | Duke

A+

 

144

Zak Zinter

IOL | Michigan

A+

 

160

Nehemiah Pritchett

CB | Auburn

A+

163

 

McKinnley Jackson

DL | Texas A&M

B+

 

200

Cedric Johnson

EDGE | Mississippi

A+

 

204

Jordan Magee

LB | Temple

A+

 

248

Cody Schrader

RB | Missouri

A+

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1 hour ago, LEBills said:

 

Could also be Beane just setting the stage for a trade if someone falls. I still think if Odunze makes it down to #9 he's the guy Beane will go up for. Gotta make those calls in advance so the parameters are in place.

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17 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

For those of us liking McConkey (among a couple other wideouts), I liked this 7 round draft with no trades.  I would be very, very happy with this.  Think these players would be available where I drafted them?  

 

28

Ladd McConkey

WR | Georgia

A

 

60

Tyler Nubin

S | Minnesota

A+

 

128

Brenden Rice

WR | USC

B+

 

133

DeWayne Carter

DL | Duke

A+

 

144

Zak Zinter

IOL | Michigan

A+

 

160

Nehemiah Pritchett

CB | Auburn

A+

163

 

McKinnley Jackson

DL | Texas A&M

B+

 

200

Cedric Johnson

EDGE | Mississippi

A+

 

204

Jordan Magee

LB | Temple

A+

 

248

Cody Schrader

RB | Missouri

A+

That would be one helluva draft

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10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Could also be Beane just setting the stage for a trade if someone falls. I still think if Odunze makes it down to #9 he's the guy Beane will go up for. Gotta make those calls in advance so the parameters are in place.

if we give up assets for Thomas im going to throw myself off a cliff

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29 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


 

 

Keep in mind, Filipponi has never gotten any rumor right. However, if this is the first time, then it would have significant draft ramifications.

 

I have seen the Steelers named a very logical destination for Aiyuk. Need, cap space, draft capital and preferred AFC destination all line up. No inside info, just makes sense. Also I’d hate it, so it’ll probably happen. 

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21 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Could also be Beane just setting the stage for a trade if someone falls. I still think if Odunze makes it down to #9 he's the guy Beane will go up for. Gotta make those calls in advance so the parameters are in place.

Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup.  Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation 

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Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup.  Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation 

 

@SoonerBillsFan This is precisely the situation I'm worried about: Maybe getting the next great WR, but leaving the asset cupboard bare for the next couple of seasons. This is the way good teams crumble: Over-estimating their valuations, over-paying assets, and still being uncertain whether or not the player you traded up for will make the impact you believe.

 

Sammy Watkins, anyone?

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1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup.  Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation 

and to me WR isn't a trade up worth position, yes Julio Jones is a great example but he's the exception not the rule. Toss in did he ultimately win the Falcons a championship? No.

 

Honestly I'm a wait and see approach, obviously I'd love Brian Thomas Jr but he'll likely go before us but don't feel he's so much better than some of the guys behind him. Yet think a guy like AD Mitchell's stock falling and could be there, if not hope we land a quality pass rusher if not trade back and hope to get a Legette in the early 2nd and get another pick that can help. As we aren't just a WR away, we have plenty of holes on the depth chart and some of them like DL don't have as great of prospects as WR does. Also the idea of two WRs baffles me especially early, how many passes are we expecting these kids to get? As to me Kincaid, Shakier, Cook and Samuel are going to get the majority of looks this year. I'm guessing the rookie might get 80-100 targets at most. Sure I could see taking a flier on a kid in Round 6 or 7 that could also pose as a return specialist and develop yet not likely starting material. 

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29 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

 

16 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Here is the deal...teams are gonna fleece Beane if he tries to tradeup.  Everyone knows we want a WR, so they will jack up the trade compensation 

Agree with the idea that teams will try to fleece Beane.  But Beane has a counter - it is a deep draft and I am not punished that much if I wait.  I am not pro trade-up, but I am hoping that if he tries Beane is too smart to get fleeced.

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11 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

 

Agree with the idea that teams will try to fleece Beane.  But Beane has a counter - it is a deep draft and I am not punished that much if I wait.  I am not pro trade-up, but I am hoping that if he tries Beane is too smart to get fleeced.

Agreed.  They can try and fleece him, but the draft class allows him to say effya.  
 

I’m pro trade up for top 3, but have zero expectations.  I’m pro trade up for Thomas if he hits 22-23.  I’m pro take BPA @28.  I’m pro trade back as long as don’t go too far back. 
 

We have lots of good options imo.  

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15 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

 

Agree with the idea that teams will try to fleece Beane.  But Beane has a counter - it is a deep draft and I am not punished that much if I wait.  I am not pro trade-up, but I am hoping that if he tries Beane is too smart to get fleeced.

It's not really that deep at WR

 

It's three deep for the legit talents, and then there's a falloff after that. for that reason, i advocate a trade down, see if you can pick up a second or two thirds and take your chance there.

 

 

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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

https://theathletic.com/5431528/2024/04/23/nfl-draft-2024-confidential-nabers-harrison-williams/
 

Tons and tons of interesting insights/comments from coaches across the league. Long piece and worth your time.

 

Great read, thanks. Here's some of the more interesting nuggets on top WRs:

 

-Malik Nabers is apparently the consensus #1 over Marvin Harrison Jr. This echoes what I heard Chris Simms say the other day. Harrison is the higher floor but Nabers' explosiveness gives him a higher ceiling. Nabers comes with less discipline though. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona still picks Harrison first just because he is such a safe pick.

 

-The feedback on Brian Thomas Jr is surprisingly poor. Coaches talking about his lack of a route tree, lack of ball skills, lack of physicality, lack of that edge that WRs need to be elite. FWIW these are the same exact concerns I have about him.

 

-On Xavier Worthy, a couple coaches specifically point out that he is NOT John Ross as a prospect, specifically that his route running is better. One coach says "he's really impressive to talk to" and praised his mentality. This sounds like a player Brandon Beane would love, although I doubt he makes it to #28.

 

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17 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Great read, thanks. Here's some of the more interesting nuggets on top WRs:

 

-Malik Nabers is apparently the consensus #1 over Marvin Harrison Jr. This echoes what I heard Chris Simms say the other day. Harrison is the higher floor but Nabers' explosiveness gives him a higher ceiling. Nabers comes with less discipline though. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona still picks Harrison first just because he is such a safe pick.

 

-The feedback on Brian Thomas Jr is surprising poor. Coaches talking about his lack of a route tree, lack of ball skills, lack of physicality, lack of that edge that WRs need to be elite. FWIW these are the same exact concerns I have about him.

 

-On Xavier Worthy, a couple coaches specifically point out that he is NOT John Ross as a prospect, specifically that his route running is better. One coach says "he's really impressive to talk to" and praised his mentality. This sounds like a player Brandon Beane would love, although I doubt he makes it to #28.


Just wanted to reiterate all three points you just highlighted.

I have believed for a couple weeks now that Nabers has a good chance to be the first WR drafted, and that many NFL teams (if not the majority) have him over MHJ. The things he does best are exactly what is en vogue in the NFL right now.

 

I, too, have some serious concerns about BTJ. He is a height/weight/speed guy who seems to be seriously lacking in some of the most important traits and abilities that a WR can possess. I understand teams thinking they can coach him up, and obviously the physical tools are intriguing, but...he scares the bejesus out of me. I don't think he has much of a floor. I think his floor is "outright bust".

And lastly, anyone who thinks Worthy is John Ross or any kind of one-trick pony just hasn't watched him much. They key is that he doesn't just have straight line speed, he also has lateral speed, quickness, and agility, and it allows him instant separation on shorter routes at times. I think he's gonna be a very good player in this league.

Can't wait for draft night, and God I hope Beane and crew choose wisely from the WR pool. 

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5 minutes ago, Logic said:


Just wanted to reiterate all three points you just highlighted.

I have believed for a couple weeks now that Nabers has a good chance to be the first WR drafted, and that many NFL teams (if not the majority) have him over MHJ. The things he does best are exactly what is en vogue in the NFL right now.

 

I, too, have some serious concerns about BTJ. He is a height/weight/speed guy who seems to be seriously lacking in some of the most important traits and abilities that a WR can possess. I understand teams thinking they can coach him up, and obviously the physical tools are intriguing, but...he scares the bejesus out of me. I don't think he has much of a floor. I think his floor is "outright bust".

And lastly, anyone who thinks Worthy is John Ross or any kind of one-trick pony just hasn't watched him much. They key is that he doesn't just have straight line speed, he also has lateral speed, quickness, and agility, and it allows him instant separation on shorter routes at times. I think he's gonna be a very good player in this league.

Can't wait for draft night, and God I hope Beane and crew choose wisely from the WR pool. 

Totally get it on BTJ. But he has blazing speed that has to be respected in a huge frame no less. If teams have to play high safeties or else get burned for a TD in the blink of an eye, that's where the underneath mismatches get exploited with all the short area/YAC threats we have (Kincaid, Shakir, Samuel, Cook, and Josh).

 

So I could definitely see a bust if he's expected to be your #1 from day 1. For a fit with the pieces around him I think he works very well with the skill sets we have decided to emphasize on the roster.

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5 minutes ago, Logic said:


Just wanted to reiterate all three points you just highlighted.

I have believed for a couple weeks now that Nabers has a good chance to be the first WR drafted, and that many NFL teams (if not the majority) have him over MHJ. The things he does best are exactly what is en vogue in the NFL right now.

 

I, too, have some serious concerns about BTJ. He is a height/weight/speed guy who seems to be seriously lacking in some of the most important traits and abilities that a WR can possess. I understand teams thinking they can coach him up, and obviously the physical tools are intriguing, but...he scares the bejesus out of me. I don't think he has much of a floor. I think his floor is "outright bust".

And lastly, anyone who thinks Worthy is John Ross or any kind of one-trick pony just hasn't watched him much. They key is that he doesn't just have straight line speed, he also has lateral speed, quickness, and agility, and it allows him instant separation on shorter routes at times. I think he's gonna be a very good player in this league.

Can't wait for draft night, and God I hope Beane and crew choose wisely from the WR pool. 

Been crushing on Nabers for months.  He's the one guy you trade the farm for.

 

I love that McConkey is smart and a good separator, but I agree with the athletic.  Size/durability concerns are real.  Doesn't look like he'll hold up.  If it wasn't for that, we might be talking about him, like we talk about the big 3.

 

I still like BTJ, and feel that at worst, he would be a good deep threat. It's up to Beane and staff, to see whether or not he can expand his route tree a bit. I can't help but think of DK. 

 

To me, the only guy that can do it all, is Nabers.  I think everyone else has 1 flaw or another.  

 

Draft can't come soon enough!

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8 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Been crushing on Nabers for months.  He's the one guy you trade the farm for.

 

I love that McConkey is smart and a good separator, but I agree with the athletic.  Size/durability concerns are real.  Doesn't look like he'll hold up.  If it wasn't for that, we might be talking about him, like we talk about the big 3.

 

I still like BTJ, and feel that at worst, he would be a good deep threat. It's up to Beane and staff, to see whether or not he can expand his route tree a bit. I can't help but think of DK. 

 

To me, the only guy that can do it all, is Nabers.  I think everyone else has 1 flaw or another.  

 

Draft can't come soon enough!

 

I see that a lot and I just don't agree with these writers.  He is about the same size as Stefon Diggs.  Marvin Harrison as well and he played in an era where you could hit.  

 

If you have the ability not to take big shots all the time, you will last long.  McConkey is that guy.

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Does not seem Legette came to Buffalo for a visit. On an interview with the Draft Network he said he had 14 visits and listed 13. He also confirmed in another interview he went to Carolina as well.

 

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I went on 14 visits altogether. I haven’t been home very much. I went to the Texans, Pittsburgh, Chiefs, Chargers, Buccaneers, Jaguars, Eagles, San Francisco, Detroit, Baltimore, Indianapolis, Green Bay, and the Broncos. I’ve been a little bit everywhere (laughs).


https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/04/22/xavier-legette-nfl-draft-networking-interview

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6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I see that a lot and I just don't agree with these writers.  He is about the same size as Stefon Diggs.  Marvin Harrison as well and he played in an era where you could hit.  

 

If you have the ability not to take big shots all the time, you will last long.  McConkey is that guy.

 

McConkey is getting the injury label by missing games the past 2 years due to injury thus not showing the "ability to take big shots". This isn't a potential preventative narrative it is based off his history and being smaller than the other prospects that haven't missed time. Diggs and Harrison may be the similar size but have demonstrated they can avoid hits and not miss time.  Injuries can be fluky so I am not saying Ladd will definitely get injured but hasn't shown that in college. 

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59 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Great read, thanks. Here's some of the more interesting nuggets on top WRs:

 

-Malik Nabers is apparently the consensus #1 over Marvin Harrison Jr. This echoes what I heard Chris Simms say the other day. Harrison is the higher floor but Nabers' explosiveness gives him a higher ceiling. Nabers comes with less discipline though. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona still picks Harrison first just because he is such a safe pick.

 

-The feedback on Brian Thomas Jr is surprisingly poor. Coaches talking about his lack of a route tree, lack of ball skills, lack of physicality, lack of that edge that WRs need to be elite. FWIW these are the same exact concerns I have about him.

 

-On Xavier Worthy, a couple coaches specifically point out that he is NOT John Ross as a prospect, specifically that his route running is better. One coach says "he's really impressive to talk to" and praised his mentality. This sounds like a player Brandon Beane would love, although I doubt he makes it to #28.

 

Mcbeane said they want to be more explosive and needed more explosive plays.  Worthy is exactly that. 

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FWIW Florio is saying buffalo trades up to Denver's spot and takes Odunze.   He is claiming he didn't make this but others who we would know did.....it seems he is pretending he is rick gosselin here....Gosselin used to do a final mock the day of the draft that was from compiling his info from all league sources....he was usually pretty accurate.....anyway Florio is not him.

 

This whole thing looks unrealistic just like that 7 round mock did that was posted here.  There is no way the Giants take an OT that high right?

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/pfts-one-and-only-2024-nfl-first-round-mock-draft

 

12. Buffalo Bills (projected trade with Broncos): Washington receiver Rome Odunze.

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1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

FWIW Florio is saying buffalo trades up to Denver's spot and takes Odunze.   He is claiming he didn't make this but others who we would know did.....it seems he is pretending he is rick gosselin here....Gosselin used to do a final mock the day of the draft that was from compiling his info from all league sources....he was usually pretty accurate.....anyway Florio is not him.

 

This whole thing looks unrealistic just like that 7 round mock did that was posted here.  There is no way the Giants take an OT that high right?

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/pfts-one-and-only-2024-nfl-first-round-mock-draft

 

12. Buffalo Bills (projected trade with Broncos): Washington receiver Rome Odunze.

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍

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44 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Does not seem Legette came to Buffalo for a visit. On an interview with the Draft Network he said he had 14 visits and listed 13. He also confirmed in another interview he went to Carolina as well.

 


https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/04/22/xavier-legette-nfl-draft-networking-interview


Good to get confirmation on this as I suspected they didn’t bring him in. Further shores up that he’s not their guy imo

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Just now, JaCrispy said:

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍

I love Odunze, and he seems Billsy (in a good way) but I don’t think he goes in the top 10 like most here assume.  I could see the Bills trying to get him if he makes it to 12….

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3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍

finding out thomas has off the field issues and a possible torn labrum leads me to believe they only take him if he falls to the 20's and hopefully do not dare trade away picks to move up for him.

 

I am a hell no on off the field issues with a wr.  They are the most entitled people in the league and when they start from day 1 with issues that is a giant red flag to me.

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1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:

Don’t like it…

 

Odunze is GOOD at everything but he’s NOT ELITE at anything…

 

I think it would terrible cake to trade up for him…Rather take a chance on Thomas, who has elite speed…👍


He is elite at contested catches. He ran a 4.45 in the 40 at 6’3 212 pounds. Sure that’s not 4.33 but it’s plenty elite ebough at a guy that size who runs a much stronger route tree. Could you argue BTJ has higher upside I could see that but he also has a way lower floor 

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Odunze is a stud and would be the Bills' WR1 instantly and for years to come.

He's a tick below Nabers and MHJ, but would still be WR1 in most draft years.

He's awesome. The Bills should only be so lucky.

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i keep reading these reports on players so i went and found a tape measure at work. at my tallest in HS i was just at 6'3". i'm just under 6'1 5/8" now with old age.

 

my arms are both about 30 1/2". i was curious how'd i'd compare because i never measured. i should probably be a 1st round pick.

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3 minutes ago, boyst said:

i keep reading these reports on players so i went and found a tape measure at work. at my tallest in HS i was just at 6'3". i'm just under 6'2 5/8" now with old age.

 

my arms are both about 30 1/2". i was curious how'd i'd compare because i never measured. i should probably be a 1st round pick.


You left out the most important measurement, Boyst.















....your heart.

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12 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

FWIW Florio is saying buffalo trades up to Denver's spot and takes Odunze.   He is claiming he didn't make this but others who we would know did.....it seems he is pretending he is rick gosselin here....Gosselin used to do a final mock the day of the draft that was from compiling his info from all league sources....he was usually pretty accurate.....anyway Florio is not him.

 

This whole thing looks unrealistic just like that 7 round mock did that was posted here.  There is no way the Giants take an OT that high right?

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/pfts-one-and-only-2024-nfl-first-round-mock-draft

 

12. Buffalo Bills (projected trade with Broncos): Washington receiver Rome Odunze.


I will say this. As two teams looking to make a trade, this makes a lot of sense. I’m sure Florio is just blowing smoke but the Broncos need 2025 capital so they can take a QB next year or rebuild their roster. 
 

The Bills have 2025 capital to give, but the question is will Odunze be there at 12. I find it hard to believe but Odunze is a Buffalo guy. Humble hard worker who doesn’t show diva traits that could be Allen’s # 1 for the next 8 years or so. 
 

Bills give up 2025 1st and 28 and maybe a 5th this year should get it done 

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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:


I will say this. As two teams looking to make a trade, this makes a lot of sense. I’m sure Florio is just blowing smoke but the Broncos need 2025 capital so they can take a QB next year or rebuild their roster. 
 

The Bills have 2025 capital to give, but the question is will Odunze be there at 12. I find it hard to believe but Odunze is a Buffalo guy. Humble hard worker who doesn’t show diva traits that could be Allen’s # 1 for the next 8 years or so. 
 

Bills give up 2025 1st and 28 and maybe a 5th this year should get it done 

he had Denver taking Bo Nix at 28

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11 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


I will say this. As two teams looking to make a trade, this makes a lot of sense. I’m sure Florio is just blowing smoke but the Broncos need 2025 capital so they can take a QB next year or rebuild their roster. 
 

The Bills have 2025 capital to give, but the question is will Odunze be there at 12. I find it hard to believe but Odunze is a Buffalo guy. Humble hard worker who doesn’t show diva traits that could be Allen’s # 1 for the next 8 years or so. 
 

Bills give up 2025 1st and 28 and maybe a 5th this year should get it done 

I think the chance Odunze makes it #12 are <25%; if he does, Beane should be all over trading up for Denver's pick.  Unlike one poster said, "Odunze is very good at everything but not elite at anything," I 100% disagree; he's elite or near elite in every category.

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5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll put this in the rumors thread.

 

We're drafting Rome Odunze or Xavier Worthy. Write it down in ink.


Blink once if you have a source and twice if you're just feeling saucy. I won't ask any followup questions, I just need to know whether I should pour a celebratory beer.

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