LEBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Nothing directly Bills related today Quote -Other prospects have had major character issues that have really hurt them with NFL teams. Some NFL sources said their teams had dropped Ohio State defensive tackle Michael Hall Jr., Alabama wide receiver Jermaine Burton and Texas defensive tackle T’Vondre Sweat off their draft boards because of character. All three have early-round skill sets, but each could slide in the 2024 NFL Draft because of character problems. -Every year, there are some prospects that benefit from a lot of media hype and others who don’t receive the attention they deserve. WalterFootball.com surveyed team sources as to which players were being overrated and overhyped, as well as which players they considered underrated Overrated Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington Graham Barton, OL, Duke Underrated Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State Kris Jenkins, DT, Michigan Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, C, Georgia https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-wednesday.php 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Joe Buscaglia's 56 prospects to consider and how they fit with the bills https://theathletic.com/5439869/2024/04/24/bills-nfl-draft-big-board-2024/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 hours ago, billieve420 said: Fanduel has BTJ draft position over 19.5 at -172. Trade with Pitt could make sense if Buffalo is interested and he is available at that spot. Both Worthy over 31.5 and Legette over 33.5 slight favorites to go end of round 1/early round 2. Rumor is the Steelers are trying to trade up into the early teens for an OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, LEBills said: Nothing directly Bills related today https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-wednesday.php An Alabama WR with low character? What are the odds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 A lot of great nuggets in here (for ESPN+ subscribers) including this on the Bills: Quote The Bills will basically scour the Earth for receiver help this draft. Word is that they love Odunze and loosely know what it would take to acquire him. Do I expect Buffalo to trade up for him? No, that's a steep climb into the top 10. But that's a window into the legwork that Buffalo is doing on the WR position. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Couple other interesting nuggets from that article: Quote While the Cardinals at No. 4 can effectively serve as the draft's pivot point for a trade, teams I've spoken to believe the Chargers are eager to trade back at No. 5, too. "The Chargers have made that clear -- they want to move back," an NFL executive said. "They probably want an [offensive] tackle." Quote I've been told the Giants and Vikings are the two teams that have been most active in discussions with the Patriots about the No. 3 pick, and that if Washington takes Daniels at No. 2, the Giants would be very interested in trading up to No. 3 for Maye. I've also been told in recent days that the Giants like Penix and might even be willing to take him as high as No. 6. There's a lot of chatter flying around, but what is clear is that the Giants have done significant work on the quarterbacks and are very open, if not desperate, to come out of Thursday night with one of them. Quote When I ask teams to predict which player will be the fourth receiver taken, one name that comes up fairly often is Texas' Xavier Worthy. Elite speed goes high. LSU's Brian Thomas Jr. is in that conversation, too. He's bracing to go somewhere in the teens or early-to-mid 20s. Thomas was part of the combine medical recheck due to a shoulder issue from college, but teams I've spoken to say that's not a major red flag -- just something they would have to manage in Year 1. He's extremely talented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 All this Worthy talk better be a smokescreen. We’ve all seen our corps get bullied and locked down in the postseason. The answer is not a 165lb stick figure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: A lot of great nuggets in here (for ESPN+ subscribers) including this on the Bills: This is about putting Act II of Allen and the Bills with a soft reset. #1 WRs are about 12% of the cap and top qbs are about 20%. That is 1/3 of your cap going to 2 players. They can save so much in cap space for 5 years by moving up with honeslty 3 great WR prospects, you have to move for it. The cap savings pays for the extra 1st itself... Wr risk in round 1 has largely moved away from misses at the top of the class, go get one of the top 3 and pair this guy up with allen for the prime of his career... I'm certainly not trading back when the teams below us and at the top of rd2 who went qb in rd 1, need wrs also. I'm not sure I'm making a smaller move up for wr4 or 5 unless I have a ton of conviction on their ability and our ability to develop them. Do I want to part with next year's 1 for a plug and play wr this year or do I want to wait for year 2 or year 3 for them to come on during Allen's prime? I'm not wasting any time or years on his career. With the cap savings we can plug another hole or 2 in UFA in the next couple offseasons to negate the list one.... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, LEBills said: Nothing directly Bills related today https://walterfootball.com/nfl-hot-press-2024-nfl-draft-week-rumors-wednesday.php Thought this was interesting: 'Over the course of the draft process, there have been more frequent reports about some teams grading out LSU wide receiver Malik Nabers higher than Ohio State wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. That definitely is the case; I know sources with multiple teams that said their franchises have Nabers over Harrison. One AFC director of player personnel told WalterFootball.com: Nabers’ tape is more impressive than Harrison’s …. We have a blue – elite – grade on Nabers with Harrison in gold. We think Harrison could get to blue as a pro, but right now, Nabers is the only receiver we have in blue. While Nabers has some teams rating him ahead of Harrison, one thing going for Harrison is there are teams that have some character concerns with Nabers. Harrison did not come up with character concerns. Sources from multiple teams with top-10 picks said they had character marks for Nabers. That being said, they said the character was not bad enough to cause them to pass on him based on the questions or remove him from their draft board. Thus, Nabers looks like a near lock for the top six of the 2024 NFL Draft.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: More OTs will go than WRs on Thursday. That is an absolute lock IMO. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 some fall in love with WRs or DE... for me, it's all about 340+ pound DT's! I hope Sweat does a podcast with Aaron Rodgers saying the Earth is flat or something and we get him in the 4th round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: More OTs will go than WRs on Thursday. That is an absolute lock IMO. Sportsbooks more than agree. Over under on wrs picked is 5.5 Over under on OL is 9.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Estro said: Sportsbooks more than agree. Over under on wrs picked is 5.5 Over under on OL is 9.5 Yea OL more generally is even more a lock. I suppose some of the guys could be classified in other spots.... but my guess is: Alt, Fashanu, Fuaga, Latham, Mims, Guyton, Morgan all go and are called tackles. Then I think Fautanu will be called a tackle, he will definitely go. And possibly Barton who might go and might be called a tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: More OTs will go than WRs on Thursday. That is an absolute lock IMO. I legit have 11 OL men going in round 1 for my last one Alt, Fashanu, Latham, Morgan, Guyton, Fuaga, Fautanu, Mims, JPJ, Barton, and Frazier. Overkill most likely but with salaries increasing and a lack of quality OL around the league their going to come off the board like hotcakes Edited April 24 by gonzo1105 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Any trade for an established receiver just got more expensive.. Amon-Ra just got 4/120 with 77 guaranteed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Any trade for an established receiver just got more expensive.. Amon-Ra just got 4/120 with 77 guaranteed wow. What are lamb and jefferson going to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, SCBills said: Any trade for an established receiver just got more expensive.. Amon-Ra just got 4/120 with 77 guaranteed It also provides more incentive for the teams drafting ahead of us to draft a highly rated rookie WR themselves rather than trade down. And, of course, more expensive to convince them otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 probably twitter nonsense but hey if the giants want a player they can move back for that can change the landscape a lot early thursday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Huge Breaking news regarding the draft. unconfirmed suggests the draft will be held tomorrow at 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7? wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, boyst said: Huge Breaking news regarding the draft. unconfirmed suggests the draft will be held tomorrow at 7. I think it's 8 tomorrow...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I think it's 8 tomorrow...... Maybe I meant central time. Why you disrespecting Indiana like that? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, boyst said: Maybe I meant central time. Why you disrespecting Indiana like that? I don't know what you lot can't be happy with one bloody time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 10 minutes ago, boyst said: Maybe I meant central time. Why you disrespecting Indiana like that? In Australia the draft already aired, but the whole country has been sworn to secrecy. 1 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 19 minutes ago, HappyDays said: In Australia the draft already aired, but the whole country has been sworn to secrecy. I bet they are still tipping picks in the draft thread. Flippin' Aussies. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLCoolCy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 B. Albright just released his Mock Draft with what he’s hearing. Bills note “The Bills have made calls about moving up for a WR, but as of this writing I don't see that happening.” https://koacolorado.iheart.com/featured/koa-denver-broncos/content/2024-04-24-benjamin-allbright-2024-nfl-mock-draft/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Could we see a Terrence Marshall type of injury slide for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, LEBills said: Could we see a Terrence Marshall type of injury slide for him? Things we don’t know when doing all these mocks. I highly doubt the Bills pass on him but if he has injury concerns and the Bills never brought him in officially, he’s probably off their board. Or maybe they already cleared him at the combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Things we don’t know when doing all these mocks. I highly doubt the Bills pass on him but if he has injury concerns and the Bills never brought him in officially, he’s probably off their board. Or maybe they already cleared him at the combine. It's out there - he has a shoulder injury that is not considered serious and won't be an issue past this upcoming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Things we don’t know when doing all these mocks. I highly doubt the Bills pass on him but if he has injury concerns and the Bills never brought him in officially, he’s probably off their board. Or maybe they already cleared him at the combine. We met him at the combine. https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/brian-thomas-jr-recaps-combine-meeting-buffalo-bills-reacts-mock-draft-hype Edited April 24 by dje85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, boyst said: Huge Breaking news regarding the draft. unconfirmed suggests the draft will be held tomorrow at 7. 😎 you mean the Bills are picking at #7? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: It's out there - he has a shoulder injury that is not considered serious and won't be an issue past this upcoming season. I’d feel a lot better about that statement if it wasn’t the same thing that what was said about Shaq Lawson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, LEBills said: Could we see a Terrence Marshall type of injury slide for him? Ugh. This coming off reports of AD Mitchell being Diabetic and requiring extra attention because of it. If both are true and teams are dropping them off the board in Round 1, that takes the only 2 WR's after the Big 3 with a sure 1st Round grade off the board. Here's hoping both are overblown or smokescreens being put out in hopes of one of them dropping. Edited April 24 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I've heard several people on NFL coverage mentioned the colts moving up to get Harrison Jr. Evidently or say made some comments along that line as well. I could see the colts doing something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, boyst said: I've heard several people on NFL coverage mentioned the colts moving up to get Harrison Jr. Evidently or say made some comments along that line as well. I could see the colts doing something like that Well then, guess we need to get to pick 14 and then call Arizona 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I read somewhere yesterday that the medical issue with Thomas Jr is believed to eventually require surgery, and the hope is that he could make it through the 2024 season before getting it next offseason. Sounds an awful lot like when Shaq Lawson was flagged for a shoulder issue pre-draft. We of course drafted him anyway, then he misses his entire rookie season recovering from shoulder surgery that we knew he'd need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 947 said: I read somewhere yesterday that the medical issue with Thomas Jr is believed to eventually require surgery, and the hope is that he could make it through the 2024 season before getting it next offseason. Sounds an awful lot like when Shaq Lawson was flagged for a shoulder issue pre-draft. We of course drafted him anyway, then he misses his entire rookie season recovering from shoulder surgery that we knew he'd need. Yea this sucks. BTJ is one of my favorites. 5 hours ago, LLCoolCy said: B. Albright just released his Mock Draft with what he’s hearing. Bills note “The Bills have made calls about moving up for a WR, but as of this writing I don't see that happening.” https://koacolorado.iheart.com/featured/koa-denver-broncos/content/2024-04-24-benjamin-allbright-2024-nfl-mock-draft/ Allbright had Josh Allen didn't he? I think he was the only one who did As of my pancakes tomorrow, I see it happening. TRADE UP BABY LETS GO BEANE Edited April 24 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 10 minutes ago, 947 said: I read somewhere yesterday that the medical issue with Thomas Jr is believed to eventually require surgery, and the hope is that he could make it through the 2024 season before getting it next offseason. Sounds an awful lot like when Shaq Lawson was flagged for a shoulder issue pre-draft. We of course drafted him anyway, then he misses his entire rookie season recovering from shoulder surgery that we knew he'd need. Heard the same about Nabers as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, DCOrange said: Heard the same about Nabers as well What are the chances both LSU stars have shoulder issues? Joe Brady trying hard to repeat JJ & Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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