JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 47 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I think if they lose out on Thomas, Franklin and Coleman are likely their preference at #28. I expect if either is available, they will be the pick. If they are all gone, Ligette is ahead of Worthy, imo. I'd love Worthy as a second receiver, but they absolutely need a much bigger receiver at the X. I'm starting to see Rice showing up as a possible second rounder, which seems a little high to me, but I like him. Polk was an underrated one-term president, and I'd be pleased to add him to the WR room. Fair enough. I’m higher on Worthy because the primary trait I covet is ability to separate, like Brown and Beasley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I can’t shake the feeling that Adonai Mitchell is a Bill… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 29 minutes ago, DJB said: I can’t shake the feeling that Adonai Mitchell is a Bill… The more I watch and read about him, the more I think you might be right. Seems like a big bodied, strong boundary player that is a intermediate to deep threat. He seems to catch everything, and is a play maker. Some knocks appear to be he is not refined as a route runner, nor does he have top end speed. I could see these two things being looked over because: 1) He’d get to work with Steph Diggs, one of the best in the business at running and setting up routes 2) At #28 you aren’t going to get a completely well rounded elite player, and speed (although important) might not be a death sentence as long as he can separate, get behind the D and catch what’s thrown his way. For those reasons, I think I’d be okay with it. You’d be getting an immediate #2 guy with the potential to develop into something special if his technique can improve. If not, you go back and take another WR early in ‘25 Edited February 18 by EmotionallyUnstable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Fair enough. I’m higher on Worthy because the primary trait I covet is ability to separate, like Brown and Beasley. You should watch video of Franklin. 1 hour ago, DJB said: I can’t shake the feeling that Adonai Mitchell is a Bill… I'd be stoked if the Bills come away with Franklin and Polk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 32 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: You should watch video of Franklin. I'd be stoked if the Bills come away with Franklin and Polk They'd have to devote the first two picks to WR for that to happen. I think Beane should. The folks who focus on D want to spend the early picks on DT, Edge, and S. They think the focus on WR weapons is indulgent and foolish. There's one fella who believes all the offense needs is a serviceable WR2, and everything else should be poured into the other side of the ball. He's fully absorbed McD's proclivities. I don't see an Edge player worth #28. The few that will go before then, frankly, are not more important than getting Josh Allen superior weapons. And I personally think you can find a few DTs in the middle rounds. You won't find a true IT, and if Sweat is there in the second, maybe you have to consider that, but I think this is the year to go heavy at WR. Those who say you can wait because it is a deep draft at the position are getting it wrong. It's the perfect year to double dip early, and maybe take another swing late, because you multiply your chances in a year with greater potential hits to improve at one of the premium, impact positions, and to do so on rookie deals. And to those who rhetorically ask "What are you going to do to fix the D?" my answer is, "well, so far, pouring a lot of prime draft resources into the D has produced abysmal playoff failure." This doesn't mean neglect the defense, but this is a year for an asymetrical approach. Bolster the Oline and the WR weapons early. Get younger on D with the mid-round picks, rather than the usual strategy of using those picks to supplement the receiving corps. All that said, I expect WR in round one likely, followed by round 2 and 3 devoted to DL and S. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, DCOrange said: To be fair, Franklin is still mostly being mocked in the 2nd round. There's just a lot of us that think he'll move up as the process moves along. Yeah, I don’t pay much attention to the mocks until later in the process. I see Franklin as no worse than WR5, which means he probably comes off the board before our pick. He would be a perfect fit for what we want…an. outside receiver with good size, speed and YAC ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: You should watch video of Franklin. I did. I remember thinking he was talented but not being overly enamored with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, mannc said: Yeah, I don’t pay much attention to the mocks until later in the process. I see Franklin as no worse than WR5, which means he probably comes off the board before our pick. He would be a perfect fit for what we want…an. outside receiver with good size, speed and YAC ability. I think there is a good chance he is WR6 and will be there. Looks like based on Senior Bowl chatter most teams still have Coleman as a top 25 player. So the top 3, Coleman, Thomas is likely the first 5 off the board. I also think there is a chance no more than 4 have gone when we pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Dr. Who said: They'd have to devote the first two picks to WR for that to happen. I think Beane should. The folks who focus on D want to spend the early picks on DT, Edge, and S. They think the focus on WR weapons is indulgent and foolish. There's one fella who believes all the offense needs is a serviceable WR2, and everything else should be poured into the other side of the ball. He's fully absorbed McD's proclivities. I don't see an Edge player worth #28. The few that will go before then, frankly, are not more important than getting Josh Allen superior weapons. And I personally think you can find a few DTs in the middle rounds. You won't find a true IT, and if Sweat is there in the second, maybe you have to consider that, but I think this is the year to go heavy at WR. Those who say you can wait because it is a deep draft at the position are getting it wrong. It's the perfect year to double dip early, and maybe take another swing late, because you multiply your chances in a year with greater potential hits to improve at one of the premium, impact positions, and to do so on rookie deals. And to those who rhetorically ask "What are you going to do to fix the D?" my answer is, "well, so far, pouring a lot of prime draft resources into the D has produced abysmal playoff failure." This doesn't mean neglect the defense, but this is a year for an asymetrical approach. Bolster the Oline and the WR weapons early. Get younger on D with the mid-round picks, rather than the usual strategy of using those picks to supplement the receiving corps. All that said, I expect WR in round one likely, followed by round 2 and 3 devoted to DL and S. If only McDefense felt the same way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: You should watch video of Franklin. I'd be stoked if the Bills come away with Franklin and Polk Keep dreaming my friend. 7 hours ago, Dr. Who said: They'd have to devote the first two picks to WR for that to happen. I think Beane should. The folks who focus on D want to spend the early picks on DT, Edge, and S. They think the focus on WR weapons is indulgent and foolish. There's one fella who believes all the offense needs is a serviceable WR2, and everything else should be poured into the other side of the ball. He's fully absorbed McD's proclivities. I don't see an Edge player worth #28. The few that will go before then, frankly, are not more important than getting Josh Allen superior weapons. And I personally think you can find a few DTs in the middle rounds. You won't find a true IT, and if Sweat is there in the second, maybe you have to consider that, but I think this is the year to go heavy at WR. Those who say you can wait because it is a deep draft at the position are getting it wrong. It's the perfect year to double dip early, and maybe take another swing late, because you multiply your chances in a year with greater potential hits to improve at one of the premium, impact positions, and to do so on rookie deals. And to those who rhetorically ask "What are you going to do to fix the D?" my answer is, "well, so far, pouring a lot of prime draft resources into the D has produced abysmal playoff failure." This doesn't mean neglect the defense, but this is a year for an asymetrical approach. Bolster the Oline and the WR weapons early. Get younger on D with the mid-round picks, rather than the usual strategy of using those picks to supplement the receiving corps. All that said, I expect WR in round one likely, followed by round 2 and 3 devoted to DL and S. Nah, we’d probably have to invest our first 3 or 4 picks to get those 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) We gotta hope we can hit on a WR like DK Metcalf who fell down the board into the late 2nd round after being touted early on as a projected higher first round pick. We need the so called “experts” to wrongfully run down a few top tier WRs so they fall to us (in rd. 1 or if Beane decides BPA in rd. 1 isn’t a WR to jump up in rd. 2 which I concur with many others with much more knowledge than me, the drop off after the top five is pretty muddled but there will be some legit gems in there (that’s why many of us want two WRs in the first four rounds with S and DL fitting in with the BPA) but we just need something we have far too little of … luck. No Cody Fords this year, that would be a big blow at this juncture. Edited February 18 by biggerdaddynj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Nah, we’d probably have to invest our first 3 or 4 picks to get those 2 Franklin could be there at #28. I think there's an outside chance Polk is there at #60, and the cost to make a modest jump in the second shouldn't be prohibitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said: We gotta hope we can hit on a WR like DK Metcalf who fell down the board into the late 2nd round after being touted early on as a projected higher first round pick. We need the so called “experts” to wrongfully run down a few top tier WRs so they fall to us (in round one or if Beane decides BPA in rd. 1 isn’t a WR so he’ll be forced to jump up in rd. 2 which many of us expect because, like others with much more knowledge than me, I concur the drop off after the top five is pretty muddled but there will be some legit gems in there (that’s why many of us want two WRs in the first four rounds with S and DL fitting in with the BPA) but we just need something we have far too little of … luck. No Cody Fords this year, that would be a big blow at this juncture. One of the most depressing picks of all time. When I saw we traded up I said hell yeah we went and got DK Metcalf! Then I saw it was Ford and biggest let down ever. Been torture ever since thinking about DK opposite Stef 😭🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said: One of the most depressing picks of all time. When I saw we traded up I said hell yeah we went and got DK Metcalf! Then I saw it was Ford and biggest let down ever. Been torture ever since thinking about DK opposite Stef 😭🤣 I’m still scarred by the Patrick Willis draft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I’d bet my life savings we aren’t taking Coleman or at least I darn well hope we aren’t . He doesn’t seem to fit what we should be looking for or what we need 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Would not be opposed to a typical Beane trade up for for Brian Thomas and then find a way to land Malik Washington or Jermaine Burton in 2-3. Malik is on the smaller side but similar to Zay Flowers and poor man’s Tyreek. Thomas would give that size/speed outside wr we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Hoping for Franklin at 28. May have to hop KC to get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 42 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Hoping for Franklin at 28. May have to hop KC to get him. Why do we have to hop a team picking behind us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: Why do we have to hop a team picking behind us? Because the Chiefs are smart, and have proven to be tactically clever. The price they paid us to get Mahomes was light, relatively speaking. And then they supposedly jumped us to grab McDuffie, though I agree with GunnerBill that Elam was our likely target. Regardless, KC wants the same type receiver as we do, and they would also like to prevent us from getting that player, so you have to be wary of that. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Franklin could be there at #28. I think there's an outside chance Polk is there at #60, and the cost to make a modest jump in the second shouldn't be prohibitive. Could and outside chance sounds about right. i didn’t think Kincaid would fall to us last year, so let’s hope I’m wrong again! 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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