DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I remember 2020 season and 2021 season. Coverting a third and long was virtually automatic: Diggs, Beasley, Davis, John Brown, Knox, etc... I didn't run the numbers but this year and last it seemed more difficult. Beasley was Mr Automatic when we really needed him, those years. Cosell made the observation at the end of 2022/23 season that the Bills offensive scheme was a head scratcher. He felt we used more than usual low percentage plays .. ie: long passes. I agree and feel we've tried too many of those this season as well. Look at the game last week vs Chiefs: Sherfield couldn't catch that bomb ... neither could Diggs. I understand you have to take a shot once in a while, especially with #17, but to rely on Sherfield and a low performance Diggs (vs Sneed) was either poor play calling or decision making on JA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I won't say much other than that KC game had to be humbling. I feel like he was featured heavily to start the game and it didnt go well. I've been thinking he isn't a ture WR 1 for awhile now but I wasnt going to say it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Mike Evans is the same age as Diggs, and he's still putting up numbers no matter who's behind center. I think Diggs can definitely be a number 1 still, it's just a matter of scheming & play calling (as well as improving the other talent at WR), along with commitment to stay with this organization. Edited January 27 by BigDingus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 22 hours ago, Gregg said: Diggs is 30 now and will be 31 next season. That's not old but if his subpar 2nd half of the season wasn't injury related then his decline will probably continue as he gets older. I know the reported injuries had Diggs as OK, and nobody claimed he was hurt even verbally. But, I watched closely, and there was definitely something wrong with him the second half of the season. Its just that it was never mentioned. I could see he was hurting. Not sure, but, I thought neck or shoulder.....upper body problem of some sort. Just my opinion after watching the NFL since the 60's. (yes, I saw Kemp and Dan Darough play) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 19 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: The moment this happened was the moment that Stefon Diggs lost his "Number 1 WR" status forever. Keep your eyes on the ball 101 stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/26/2024 at 12:31 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Pretty amazing comment. He says it’s based on film study. The Bills don’t have a number 1 receiver. Comment starts at 2:13 in. But it’s a good listen. Not sure if this link will work. https://go.audacy.com/rzMEawrpGGb And I totally agree. Diggs was 1A in Minnesota. He had a success few years as a WR1 in Buffalo, but that’s probably because of his QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) On 1/26/2024 at 3:46 PM, Low Positive said: The Ravens don't have one either. They are probably going to the SB with no WR having over 1,000 yards. Zay Flowers led the team with 858, but no one else even had 600 yards. Also, Lamar is their leading rusher. Zay Flowers is twice the player Diggs is today Edited January 27 by Pete 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 12 hours ago, Don Otreply said: We may not have a #1, but that is in large part that our #2 takes no load off of our #1 , this is not said to pile on Davis, it’s just that he is in a position that his skill set can’t fill, Davis is better suited to be a 3/4 and was far more useful in that role, jmo. I do agree with this. Diggs has slipped to a decent #2. If he could be cloned 3 more times, Bills fans would take that! Failing that, Allen needs a #1. The rest rise up occasionally to #2s, normally #3-4. NOT GOOD ENOUGH BY HALF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 2:36 PM, frostbitmic said: Under Dorsey, Diggs was the only receiver on the field it seemed. Under Brady they spread the ball around more and use Cook a lot more. Diggs declined before Brady took over. This is a Diggs issue, not a scheme issue. Something isn't right with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 IDK cover1 had a pretty good break down of how Diggs stuggled the 2nd half of the season the last 3 or 4 years, under Daboll, Dorsey and Brady. Basically his best season here was complimented Beasely and Brown, a real field stretcher and a legit slot wideout. He's not a field stretcher, he's not great in man, he struggles when D's focus on him down the stretch etc. Obviously, this isn't madden football, but we need to make a significant upgrade as soon as it is possible and makes sense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Diggs lil bro wants him out of town coz he knows his older bro is a WR 2. It’s about pride hiding him behind CeeDee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 3:35 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Well if Greg says it, it must be true! no one would have said this a month ago. Everything is so reactionary! but yes, let’s get multiple WRs here this offseason. People were saying it a month ago and the evidence is more strong now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 2:55 PM, Johnnycage46 said: I trust Cosell's analysis as he doesn't appear to be emotionally-biased and goes by the tape (tape don't lie) Been watching / listening to him for years. He watches so many game recordings that he knows more about every player in the league than anyone else really. College ball too. He wouldn't say it if he didn't think it were true. The question is can SD rehabilitate next year? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 3:59 PM, corta765 said: Just going to point out to those who are upset on this comment that the list of WR's who kept up 1000 yds + production post 30 years old is incredibly small with Larry Fitzgerald being the greatest outlier and he was moved to the slot. Well said. Diggs decline isn’t an indictment on him. He has been wonderful for us. Father time is simply undefeated. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 7:12 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: Because drops have not been a long term issue for him. He is more likely to go back to his norm which is a reliable catcher of the football. I hope you're right man, but I'm afraid it's more likely that 30+ yr old receivers get worse, not better as time goes by.... Everyone hits that wall eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 19 hours ago, Pete said: Zay Flowers is twice the player Diggs is today That’s an absolutely insane thing to say and there is not a stat that backs that up. Ultimate prisoner of the moment. On 1/27/2024 at 1:31 PM, BigDingus said: Mike Evans is the same age as Diggs, and he's still putting up numbers no matter who's behind center. I think Diggs can definitely be a number 1 still, it's just a matter of scheming & play calling (as well as improving the other talent at WR), along with commitment to stay with this organization. Evans had 6 games with under 50 yards this year, including 1 with 8! I’d take Evans all day over Diggs because of his size but even the best WRs aren’t having monster games game in and game out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 3:31 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Pretty amazing comment. He says it’s based on film study. The Bills don’t have a number 1 receiver. Comment starts at 2:13 in. But it’s a good listen. Not sure if this link will work. https://go.audacy.com/rzMEawrpGGb The fact that Beane is so confident in saying “full confident Stef is a #1” is unsettling. he was “fully confident” in Gabe being a #2 as well. He seems to be a year behind on his evaluations of declining players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) Diggs 44 receptions on 75 attempts, 8 yards per attempt under Joe Brady over 9 games. Stats back up the eye test. If Steph isn't injured, stick a fork in him. Next man up. Bills dropped over 10% of catchable passes 🤮 Edited January 29 by Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) On 1/26/2024 at 3:31 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Pretty amazing comment. He says it’s based on film study. The Bills don’t have a number 1 receiver. Comment starts at 2:13 in. But it’s a good listen. Not sure if this link will work. https://go.audacy.com/rzMEawrpGGb We don't yet we"re stuck with him for another 3 years at huge money. This was another stupid contract for an older player that Beane signed, the Chiefs sold high on Hill and still won the Super Bowl and could win another one this year. Bills should have traded Diggs after 13 secs and I say that because he disappeared in almost every big playoff game. Not sure how Beanne gets off of the Diggs contract. 27mil-2024 27 mil 2025 28 mil 2026 22 mil 2027, not just the drop in production but the head games he and his stupid punk brother keep playing with Allen is not good Edited January 29 by Niagara Dude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) On 1/26/2024 at 4:15 PM, extrahammer said: We have all these bonafide offensive consultants (Shula, Kromer, etc.) and first year OC's (Dorsey and Brady), it's wild to me that none of them can figure out if Diggs is a #1 WR or what type of offense to put around Josh. I’m sure they figured it out, but can’t really do much due to his massive contract. I’ve had enough w/ Diggs and his diva attitude. It’s time to move on and develop someone else to take over that role. Cosell is one of the best analysts and is usually spot on. Edited January 29 by ChronicAndKnuckles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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