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Should the Bills Fire McDermott?  

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  1. 1. Should the Bills Fire McDermott?

    • Yep. Too many bad losses and bad coaching in the playoffs
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35 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Heard some stat today that in the history of the NFL there have been 3 seasons where a QB accounted for 50+TDs regular/postseason and didn't make the championship

 

Allen has 2 of them lol

 

If true, the 3rd one would be Mahomes in the 2018 season. The Chiefs defense was brutally bad that year and lost to the Pats in the AFCCG because Dee Ford went Offside effectively ending the game.

 

Their solution? They immediately fired their DC at the time, Bob Sutton, after that loss. They hired Steve Spagnuolo and the rest is history.

 

If the Bills were to copy their solution, well...

 

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12 hours ago, DapperCam said:


The big difference is in Super Bowl 25 the Giants had a much worse offense, so that was the correct strategy. Shorten the game, limit possessions and hope they can get a couple plays to come away with the win.
 

We have the 2nd best QB in the league, and the best intermediate passer in the league. They should be coming up with creative ways to get those kinds of plays available. We shouldn’t be trying to limit possessions, we should be trying to get as many possessions as possible.

 

Handicapping ourselves to keep the other team’s offense off the field is not playing to our strengths/advantage.

We've tried to out score KC in a shootout and that didn't work either.

 

McDermott is not thr problem.  He didn't drop key passes yesterday ir miss key field goals.  McDermott put us in the position to win.

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6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If true, the 3rd one would be Mahomes in the 2018 season. The Chiefs defense was brutally bad that year and lost to the Pats in the AFCCG because Dee Ford went Offside effectively ending the game.

 

Their solution? They immediately fired their DC at the time, Bob Sutton, after that loss. They hired Steve Spagnuolo and the rest is history.

 

If the Bills were to copy their solution, well...

 

The Chiefs did make the championship round that year. They lost to the Patriots in that game so that would not be the other one

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If we had fallen apart down the stretch, there's a chance they would have moved on. But by all accounts, it wasn't going to happen even then: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sean-mcdermott-is-safe-as-bills-coach-beyond-2023-despite-recent-struggles-per-report/

 

If he were to be let go, I wouldn't be upset. But like it or not, it's just not going to happen this season.

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43 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Evidently the six game winning streak when our offense couldn't score enough points so our D and special teams helped are long forgotten... if we make that FG and win the game all of this is moot. People are acting like the Chiefs kicked our as*es and it's ridiculous.

If we kick the FG, we still lose 

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14 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

The Chiefs did make the championship round that year. They lost to the Patriots in that game so that would not be the other one

 

I assume the statistic referred to the Super Bowl but maybe not.

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23 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If true, the 3rd one would be Mahomes in the 2018 season. The Chiefs defense was brutally bad that year and lost to the Pats in the AFCCG because Dee Ford went Offside effectively ending the game.

 

Their solution? They immediately fired their DC at the time, Bob Sutton, after that loss. They hired Steve Spagnuolo and the rest is history.

 

If the Bills were to copy their solution, well...

 

If only we had a QB that could take a bad defense to the AFCCG and lose an OT battle.

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22 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

McDermott’s playoff record against teams seeded 5-7 is 5-0. His playoff record against teams seeded 1-4 is 0-6. I don’t even think he coached a bad game today. I liked that he was aggressive - except for the fake punt which was forgivable if it was because KC only had 10 on the field.

 

At some point you just have to make a change though. I don’t think the Bills will fire McDermott this off-season, but they probably should. I think he gets at least one more year. 

If this is not fireable I don't know what is

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54 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


You don’t think having to rely on ancient AJ Klein was a problem?

His choice to think it was acceptable to trot AJ Klein out onto an NFL field in the first place, at this point in his non existent career, let alone into coverage against one of the best Tight Ends ever to do it. 

I understand injuries, but he could’ve gotten a hell of a lot more creative schematically than “insert AJ Klein”. That’s never a legitimate option, he was never good in coverage in whatever “prime” he had, let alone now that he’s absolute dust.

3 Safety looks, Dodson and Williams rotate at LB, dare them to run, hope for stops, don’t just let Mahomes play pitch and catch with guys in space though.

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22 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

McD was fine tonight.

 

But it's not just this loss. I just feel there is a ceiling with him in the postseason. Things aren't progressing forward. Why ignore the fact there are legendary coaches available? They would jump at this opportunity.

 

When is getting to the Divisional round not going to be enough? 

 

 

Why does people keep saying this? He wasn't fine not at all? No real adjustments on D till it was to late with putting in Dorian and Neal in big Dime . Offensively no adjustments at all so no he sucked and he will continue to suck as soon as the divisional Rd starts every yr. I'm hearing the new banner there putting up next season  for next season in the field house is Wildcard Caliber! 

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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Why do you think the Bills should have won? The strategy seemed pretty sound given our injuries and the opponent to make the game as short as possible. We went into the half with the lead and with less than two minutes on the clock we had a chance to go up 4 and the players didn't execute.

I never wanted McDermott hired int he first place and will be glad to see him canned, but what exactly did you want him to do that he didn't do yesterday? Our team was outclassed in every phase and still had a chance to win. I give him credit for that.

The strategy relied on Allen and Brady having perfect games and that is not realistic.  Did you watch the 4th quarter of the Lions/Bucs game? The Lions D was struggling to stop the Bucs so Detroit decided that they would press more aggressively on offense to outscore TB. I was stunned to see the Lions throwing and running a hurry up O with a 1 TD 4th quarter lead over TB.  It worked and was the correct strategic call.

 

In contrast McD placed a governor on Allen, Brady and the O and asked them to not only out score KC but run out the clock as well.  This was inane IMO. The 2nd half strategy should have been to score as much as possible and ignore whether it was one play of ten play drives.

 

 

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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Heard some stat today that in the history of the NFL there have been 3 seasons where a QB accounted for 50+TDs regular/postseason and didn't make the championship

 

Allen has 2 of them lol

 

1 hour ago, McBean said:

This right here makes me want to vomit.

 

You have to change the HC. You just have to.

 

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

If true, the 3rd one would be Mahomes in the 2018 season. The Chiefs defense was brutally bad that year and lost to the Pats in the AFCCG because Dee Ford went Offside effectively ending the game.

 

Their solution? They immediately fired their DC at the time, Bob Sutton, after that loss. They hired Steve Spagnuolo and the rest is history.

 

If the Bills were to copy their solution, well...

 

 

The stat actually according to Dan Orlovsky was it has happened only twice, and both times its been Allen.  He is the only person to do it and its happened twice.

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1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Philly said the same thing about Andy Reid. I'm not saying McD is the guy or that his seat shouldn't be hot. But he did a better job w/ that shell of a D than most would have. & We won't win w/ some of the players we've got no matter who the HC is. There's no legit WR-1 to help Allen on this team. Diggs is a WR-2. You're 100% right we are wasting Allen's prime, that WR Corp only has Shakir as a reliable weapon for him. We've got Kincaid & Cook, but we need more/better deep threat weapons so when he unleashes that cannon someone actually catches the GD ball.

Let's put thing in perspective in our 4 playoff losses 3 vs kc and 1 vs Cincinnati McDermott defense has forced 5 TOTAL PUNTS IN 4 GAMES

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

If true, the 3rd one would be Mahomes in the 2018 season. The Chiefs defense was brutally bad that year and lost to the Pats in the AFCCG because Dee Ford went Offside effectively ending the game.

 

Their solution? They immediately fired their DC at the time, Bob Sutton, after that loss. They hired Steve Spagnuolo and the rest is history.

 

If the Bills were to copy their solution, well...

 

Go get Bill belichick and we turn into a dynasty with allen at qb

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Been thinking about this all day:

 

If we hire Belichick - who would likely come here - do we stand a better chance of advancing farther in the playoffs, or a worse chance?

 

That is the ONLY question right now. And it's a no-brainer of an answer. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Success said:

Been thinking about this all day:

 

If we hire Belichick - who would likely come here - do we stand a better chance of advancing farther in the playoffs, or a worse chance?

 

That is the ONLY question right now. And it's a no-brainer of an answer. 

 


Would he be happy with the DC job?


 

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